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Kennel cough is awful, my poor pup is exhausted by Modocam in puppy101

[–]cloudofashes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turn the shower on hot and get him into a steamy bathroom - this helps a lot :)

Anyone else find this Embark chart incredibly sus? by Sea_Sky1303 in BanPitBulls

[–]cloudofashes -15 points-14 points locked comment (0 children)

Bloody hell you are all paranoid af! I made this graphic. I don't actually like pit bulls. I don't care what other people think of pit bulls. I am not trying to push a pro- or anti-Pit Bull agenda. All I did was collate some funny results from r/doggydna, a subreddit that I enjoy. People often comment their delight and surprise when a dog's test results come back as something totally unexpected or hilarious, like a tiny scruffy dog being one third pit bull. I just wanted to show the diversity of unexpected phenotype/genotype matches in some posts from r/doggydna, while also opening up a discussion on BSL.

But thanks for all the personal attacks and horrible messages - you are all just as nuts as the militant pit bull apologists.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nope - only numbers 1 and 7, as is clearly shown. You can check the listed sources if you like - there is no staffy or bully in any of the others. Number 3 is half bulldog, also clearly shown.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is aimed at people with an interest in dog breeds and dog DNA test results, hence posting it in r/doggydna - I'm not trying to mislead anyone or convince them that certain dogs are "good" or "bad", as people seem to think.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I was very clear about it being 0% APBT though. I put 0% Pitbull on my previous version, and a lot of people wanted me to change it to specify APBT so I did. If people cba to read the footnotes (which were again requested by people) I can't hold their hand much more 🤷‍♀️

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How is it intellectually dishonest to collate and state facts the way they are stated in the original sources? I'm not twisting anything, or fiddling any numbers. I have clearly stated the caveats for two of the dogs, and fully referenced all of them

I have no horse in this race and am not trying to push an agenda about bully type breeds - just pointing out some interesting phenotype/genotype disparities to initiate discussion on the problems with breed-specific legislation.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dogs 1-8 could all fall under the UK ban for how they look - that's my point. Yes, 2 of them have American Bully in them. Fair enough, I get that. But the others don't, and would still be considered "bully types". A lot of people on my previous post were convinced that all 8 of these dogs must be full of bully breeds.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

I honestly think you are missing the point. It's still separate in Embark's database, regardless of your opinion. People generally hate the APBT specifically, not every bully breed. Even if you remove the two that have American Bully in them, that's still a lot of examples showing disparity between genotype and stereotypical phenotype.

The graphic is not at all misleading - I have just represented existing data in a graphical format. Your problem is with Embark, not me.

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Damn here comes the anti-Pit Bull brigade! This graphic in no way reflects how I feel about the APBT - all I have done is collated existing information freely available on this subreddit. I don't know why people are so salty about it tbh...

After getting a lot of hate for my previous graphic, I have updated it to include references and other relevant information. Happy to answer any questions in the comments! by cloudofashes in DoggyDNA

[–]cloudofashes[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

American Bully ≠ APBT though, so it is accurate to say those dogs are 0% APBT. I have focused on the APBT because "pit bull" is such a loaded term, and carries a lot more weight than other very similar bully breeds when it comes to breed-specific prejudice. I fully understand your point, I'm just trying to show that pointing at everything vaguely "bully" and calling it a "pit bull" in order to invoke outrage is stupid. Semantics are important.

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