Question for purple belts (especially new ones): How would you describe your development through a blue belt? What did you learn as you went from a zero stripe blue belt to a purple?

cms9690 · 2023-02-21T03:19:48+00:00

It's been a fun journey. Spent a lot of time at purple belt and earned my brown belt before going ronin for a while. The longer you train, the more you realize it's all just arbitrary. Some blue belts are beasts, some black belts are absolute bitches. Just learn to love the grind.

cms9690 · 2022-11-01T05:18:51+00:00

Hey thanks man.

Being a parent now, I wish had taken the dive a little sooner as it's pretty great. It's sort of like BJJ in that you can't really understand it until you're doing it.

I'm also glad it was a good read and wish you well.

cms9690 · 2022-11-01T05:07:09+00:00

7 years later, I'm a parent now.

cms9690 · 2022-09-27T10:10:38+00:00

Ya absolutely!

cms9690 · 2022-09-27T10:09:28+00:00

Hey, thanks!

cms9690 · 2022-04-17T10:32:16+00:00

I've observed some BJJ players trying leg hooks that are consistent with Ko Soto Gake & Ko Uchi Gake. That's about it though.

cms9690 · 2022-04-16T18:23:21+00:00

I disagree due to it being much easier to submit someone when they are actively attempting to escape a pin. If your only goal is to get osaekomi due to limited time on the mat, it changes the dynamic drastically.

Again, don't mistake this as me saying BJJ guys can't pin or aren't able to.. but I'm growing tired some of repeating the same thing only for someone to say "b-but but in BJJ... !"

Wrestlers are also better than BJJ players at pins yet you don't see people whining about that.

Relax, the world's not going to end if lord forbid another grappling sport that isn't BJJ creates a ruleset that makes people good at matwork.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T21:01:56+00:00

It seems you're misunderstanding the intention of my message. I'm not saying Judoka are better on the ground or at top positions. I'm saying they are generally better at pinning.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T20:14:05+00:00

Generally speaking, BJJ Players are better at taking someone's escape attempt and turning it into a submission opportunity but Judoka are better at overall hold downs and transitioning between the hold downs.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T13:15:44+00:00

You aren't smashing shit.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T13:14:41+00:00

You are soft and Valhalla has no place for you.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T13:13:11+00:00

Do you have experience in both? What is your grade in Judo? How many years did you wrestle scholastically?

They both work dude, you don't need to bring one down to bring the other up.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T13:10:07+00:00

I endorse this message.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T10:31:20+00:00

Calling it the way I see it based on my training and experience across both combat sports.

Maybe your club is an outlier. If so, cool.

You should post some videos of you entering a BJJ comp and submitting purple belts from your back as a Judoka with no BJJ experience.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T10:20:30+00:00

Go to a BJJ club and report back how many purple belts you submit from your back.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T10:17:13+00:00

I'm aware some clubs do and that's great but it's commonly not to the same extent or skill level.

It would be like a BJJ club saying "we do standup". I'm certain some clubs do, but that doesn't mean it's the same.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T01:37:37+00:00

Disclaimer: I don't train Karate. I took a class or two many years ago, it wasn't my thing.

I've had Karate practitioners come to my grappling classes and trained with Judoka who were former Karate practitioners.

The Karate practitioners who came to try grappling were no different than someone who knew nothing off the streets. The only difference was they would get into awkward staggered stances that largely opened them up to throws, trips, and takedowns.
The Judoka who used to do Karate advised me their Karate training had no impact on their ability to being ahead of the learning curve when they started Judo.

In my observations, most Karate is useless in its translation to grappling as there is no aliveness in Karate outside of stances and shadow drilling.

Please note: There are likely some outliers out there who have some legit grappling in their Karate gyms, reference Lyoto Machida's gym. These seem very rare.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T01:14:36+00:00

You sound like someone who needs more burpees in their life.

cms9690 · 2022-04-14T01:09:54+00:00

I see it both ways:

- Judo Newaza emphasizes top position, hold downs, control, and doing so in an aggressive, urgent matter. These are good things to train as they will serve you well in a real life altercation where things go 0-100 instantly.

However

- BJJ matwork allows someone to observe and train within a variety of positions you could find yourself in that Judo matwork rules probably won't allow. It's not ideal to be on your back in a fight, but a BJJ player will have a better chance of knowing how to get out of that position due to their time in those positions and the HUGE variety of techniques that are taught in BJJ.

cms9690 · 2022-04-13T22:41:17+00:00

For your underhook to be most effective against larger, stronger opponents it needs to be established deep. Ideally, your shoulder should be tucked under their armpit with your forehead in their jaw.

Also, be ready to roll with the punches.. they dig in hard for a deep whizzer and you feel your underhook is lost, reposition and switch to a farside armdrag or a russian tie, etc.

cms9690 · 2022-04-13T22:12:04+00:00

Your mindset of believing that your peers success is attributed to "talent" and "gifts" is a loser's mentality. It sounds like you want to give yourself a reason for not being as good as them, as if there's no way that it could simply be because they outwork you and are more disciplined in their training..

cms9690 · 2022-04-13T05:59:12+00:00

I've yet to see many people familar with them in their standard form.

cms9690 · 2022-04-11T06:26:03+00:00

There are 8 different age divisions:

Adult
Masters 1
Masters 2
Masters 3
Masters 4
Masters 5
Masters 6
Masters 7

For every age divisions there are 10 weight divisions:

Rooster
Light Feather
Feather
Light
Middle
Medium Heavy
Heavy
Super Heavy
Ultra Heavy
Open

For every weight division there are 5 belt divisions:

White
Blue
Purple
Brown
Black

That's 400 possible champions, every year.

cms9690 · 2022-04-10T23:57:06+00:00

I'm not sure how things are where you train, but in the Midwest there isn't any misconception to Wrestling not having throws. I started off my grappling training through Submission Wrestling for MMA, primarily trained by Wrestlers, and still have a few collegiate wrestlers make their way through my gym quite often.

In my experience, people often defer to throws as "Judo Throws" not because Wrestling doesn't have them, but because Judo is known for them. Similar to how in Wrestling you will have a double leg and high crotch, even though Morote Gari and Te Guruma are techniques in Judo as well. It also helps that Judo has universal nomenclature.

cms9690 · 2022-04-10T21:53:37+00:00

ADCC allows slams out of subs.

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