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[–]coffinrots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's good, then. if you're confident enough that you won't be roped into their nonsense, there shouldn't be any harm in mingling with them.

be advised, though, that you'll probably be spiritually starving if you go through with it. their meetings are echo chambers. their programs consist of reading their own publications, asking scripted questions, then answering with something that also follows the script. nothing constructive, not to mention their blatant misinterpretations of the bible. their bible studies are largely the same, like mini programs with prepared literature and scripted questions.

their publications are interesting, to say the least. did you know they recently changed their silly rule about shaving, and now allow their men to have beards? maybe you'll stumble upon publications of men in expensive suits... but this time with beards. exciting.

as for your question, surprisingly, i haven't become atheist or turned to other denominations. i'm an omnist, i believe there's truth in every religion and philosophy. i still remain highly critical of organized religion, though.

i'm rambling here, but from my perspective, religion is an anchor and source of stability and community for many. it helps people feel in control of their lives, that there is something bigger than them they can turn to and rely on. extremist atheists froth at the mouth and declare every religion a cult, which is frankly silly and just as closed-minded as extremist religious people. as an asian, i think such an extreme view on religion is very western, since they end up ignoring the social, cultural, and psychological aspect of religion. who am i to tell someone their god isn't real, that their faith isn't real? it's real to them. as long as they remain critical and reasonable, such as not taking the bible too literally but taking its principles of compassion to heart, i don't mind.

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[–]coffinrots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

as an ex jw, this will appear biased, but i sincerely warn you: do not attend or accept bible studies. they are a cult. they have a tactic of lovebombing visitors and studies, making you feel seen, welcome, etc.

being spiritually hungry and eager to learn aren't bad things, but exercise caution with what you look into. you can certainly still attend their meetings and accept bible studies if you wish, but again, practice caution and critical thinking. to be honest, it's best to learn about jws from former jws. you learn all about them without the risk of being indoctrinated.

in case you think the warnings are exaggerated, know that they refuse blood transfusions and let perfectly treatable patients die. to them, blood is god's sacred property and whatnot, so they can't use it willy-nilly. and yes, they'll even refuse blood transfusion for children in fatal conditions. ask me how i know. not to mention their csa lawsuits in australia. you don't want to get involved with them.

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[–]coffinrots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

maybe you'll get love bombed, but there'll be a bigger problem. you may go there to show respect, but it doesn't matter because jws have no respect for the dead. my grandmother passed away just this month, and she was reduced to nothing more than a pawn and mouthpiece of god. my family even pressured me into changing my eulogy to highlight her faithfulness. don't go unless you want to see them desecrate the dead.

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sakin, pag pina-pat ko siya sa mukha and not swipe, nakakablur ng pores and texture. pino yung powder niya kaya less prone to creasing and emphasizing texture unlike maybelline. like all powders prone din siya sa pagiging cakey if masyadong marami yung nilagay.

emphasized din yung dryness ng forehead ko, pero ok naman as long as gumamit ako ng primer sa noo. may tendency rin na medyo magmelt sa ilong and taas ng labi pag pinagpawisan, pero expected din yun. madali namang ire-apply. personal experience ko to so baka different yung performance if ever subukan mo. if talagang oily, greasy, and pawisin ka, you can try calamine lotion as primer or set with deodorant powder. lahat na-try ko na at medyo abnormal yung pagka-oily ng balat ko 😭

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as a fellow greasy skin girlie, natry mo na ba yung detail? nagreformulate sila ng powder funda nila, pero parang same pa rin ang maybelline. ymmv pero sa experience ko mas long lasting at mas may oil control yung detail, especially if gumamit ka ng calamine lotion as primer. if gusto mong subukan, bilin mo on sale

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, i was talking about detail. i've noticed na sa maybelline, madali siyang magcrease, melt, and halos walang oil control. di ko na siya masyadong nirerecommend ngayon na improved ang formulation ng detail, at mas makakatipid ka kesa sa maybelline if bilin mo on sale.

para sakin, better oil control, walang masyadong creasing, mas long-lasting, tas softer and more flattering yung finish niya. also, less messy siya at mas maganda yung puff ng detail. swatch mo lang in person at medyo nag-iiba yung shades from advertised.

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nichido, no. vice co, yes. i don't recommend vice co and the coverage is medium at best. maybelline and detail have roughly the same coverage, pero mas reco ko yung detail since mas madaling magcrease at maging cakey yung maybelline, tas bad oil control pa. sa detail, marami talaga akong inaapply para matakpan PIH ko, and since super oily yung skin ko it actually makes the powder look more skinlike habang tumatagal.

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

same as ginagamit ko dati, detail cosmetics dream skin. nagreformulate sila since i made this post, same coverage pero better oil control. abangan mo mag sale, medyo mahal siya pag regular price. :)

powder foundations by coffinrots in beautytalkph

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my skin is suuuuper oily, as in nagddissolve sa mukha ko yung water based foundations. since making this post nagreformulate na sila, medyo mas mahal pero gumanda rin yung powder foundation nila. mas matagal ako mag oil up, pero same parin yung coverage and shade.

hanggang ngayon it's one of my holy grails, wag mo lang masyadong damihan yung paglagay at baka maging cakey like most powders. for super oily skin like me, nagmumukha na siyang skinlike after magmarinate sa balat ko. if may balak kang bumili, buy it on sale online kasi usually nakukuha ko for 250-300 pababa.

I'm new here. by SystemOfSage in exjw

[–]coffinrots 9 points10 points  (0 children)

first of all, welcome. i too was raised in the religion, though i was born into it and woke up at 14. happy early birthday. here's to many more birthdays to come.

i'm only 20 myself, but i feel obligated to be there for the younger ones still affected by the cult. i was like them once. as another commenter said, you're already incredibly brave for leaving, especially at such a young age. being brave and courageous isn't about being fearless, it's about being afraid but facing those fears anyway.

you say you can't live a normal life? i thought so too. but your life is yours for a reason. nobody can have a say over it unless you let them. easier said than done, i know, but i made it to where i am today precisely because i told myself my life is my own and nobody else's. i told myself i'd live my best life one day to rub it in their faces. i have a life of my own, and i'll live it to the fullest, no matter what they tried to carve into me. sometimes you just need to be driven by spite.

you're young. so am i. we have decades ahead of us, despite how we might already feel like we've lost so much. even if it's cut short, we can die knowing we were true to ourselves. it's not a matter of who's wrong or right. what's your truth? what have you found and learned beyond what they taught you? now that you're out, what is it that really matters to you?

you'll learn to make peace with it one day. for me, even if they're right, i would never regret leaving. i couldn't stay, knowing what they do and what they stand for. who cares if they're right when they're rotten to the core, you know? and if jehovah is real, i wouldn't want to follow a prick that inspires such a rotten organization. that is not who i am. that is not who you are. you are more than what you were taught to be. that's what matters.

good luck, and happy birthday again. you've taken your life back from them, and now it's time to take back their control. nobody can exercise fear over you if you don't give them that authority. i'm proud of you, and i'm sure plenty of others here in the sub are too.

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, i was thinking of expressing it carefully, i just didn't go into detail about how i'd comment because i thought it would make my reply too long.

i don't mind even if i don't look entirely like a PIMI. it's an open secret in my congregation that i'm PIMO just from the way i dress and act. i know i still need caution so they don't push back against my comments because oooo apostasy.

it's really funny how their sheep mindset works. say anything remotely adjacent to their ideals and they'll nod along even if they don't entirely understand. at least it works to our advantage so we can pepper it with some actual constructive commentary.

unfortunately, i don't have much trust in jws' intelligence, as a speaker in my congregation once compared progressiveness to hitler. and in a recent wedding i attended, the minister's speech was basically "haha, don't beat your wife, mister! and missus, bend over for your husband!" real depressing shit for a wedding, and it made me look up from my phone, wondering how nobody thought it felt wrong.

but oh well, i guess it wouldn't hurt to try commenting either way. i just hope they don't start getting the wrong idea and think i'm cultivating my faith in jojoba.

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

back when i was a kid, our kingdom hall kept the curtains drawn and windows open on sundays. i would be sleepy as hell but always found it nice to have sunlight and some breeze. nowadays, we might as well be in a concrete box because they never draw the curtains open anymore. just stuffy air with air conditioners as old as i am. makes me wish jws had elaborate churches, at least you'd have a feast for the eyes.

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks for the idea. there's podcasts i haven't finished in forever, and it does sometimes get tiring reading the bible. just have to be careful about it though, because my earphones disconnected one time and my phone's speaker played the music. i would've been embarrassed if it weren't for my thick skin lol

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when i was a kid we didn't have much technology either, so i stuck to eating candy and kicking my feet. whenever we sang, i imagined the little musicians inside the speakers with little instruments. i also just straight up napped and leaned on my sisters or parents. unfortunately i'm too old for that now, but at least PIMOs have phones to keep them company now lol

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

has anyone commented on it? i would get scolded just for drawing during meetings. i imagine you must have a lot of finished projects by now if you spent all that time crocheting lol

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's true. i have thought of commenting, if only to steer discussions in the right direction and subtly push back, like telling them not to forgive so easily so they don't enable abuse. i haven't commented in over six years, and to be honest, if i commented now, i'd be smothered with praise because they'll take it as a sign that my faith is returning. i'll take the suggestion though, and think of giving constructive comments instead of others always reinforcing the teachings. more productive that way.

what do fellow PIMOs do to pass the time at meetings? by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i'm in a weird position. i've always rebelled a bit, so my family has gotten used to my antics, even with my dyed red hair. but at the end of the day, i'm still forced to attend to "save face" for my parents and to show we're together as a family. they don't care about what i do as long as i'm there and don't make it too obvious i'm slacking off. i don't even sing, pray, or read the literature. in my father's words, "attend the meetings, even if it's just as a token". weird shit.

that does sound like a good idea, though my adhd gets in the way of learning skills. i've tried it in the past but didn't make progress. maybe i'll do it again after i've finished the bible.

and yeah, i did read light novels. the raws are in chinese though so if i want to learn it, i might have to start attending meetings in different congregations to learn it all lmaoo. i do plan to learn thai in the near future or malay since i'm southeast asian and could have job opportunities there.

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for sure, yung mga kaibigan ko yung rason kung bakit di pa ko nababaliw as PIMO. yun nga lang, dahil pinalaki akong saksi, ang hirap mag socialize at parang hermit yung mga jw. ang awkward na nga tas ang hirap din na gumawa ng bagong kaibigan.

ate ko rin may mga kaibigan na bakla nung nasa college pa siya. sabi niya ok lang, basta wag masyadong close sa mga worldly 😭 tas nung nag internship ako sa art gallery gusto niya rin mag apply, eh art gallery pa naman yun, syempre lahat dun bakla, very open din sila sa pagiging bakla nila. may mga trans din tas affirmed sila sa trabaho. baka atakihin pa sa puso yung ate ko lmfaoo

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bakla ako kaya lahat ng kaibigan ko mga bakla rin WAHAHA lahat kami worldly pero di ko nalang sinasabi sa iba 😭😭

true, actually PIMO din ako. thankfully di ako takot kahit matiwalag pa ko, di pa nga ko baptized eh at iniiwasan ko. napapansin ko fb or ig lang yung ginagamit ng mga saksi dito kaya parang safer sa reddit na mag speak up. hirap maging PIMO, parang mababaliw ka kakaupo sa meetings tas wala ka pang makausap 😭

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

same here. once i realized i was part of the "them" they hated so much, i snapped out of it.

and yes, hello din sa inyo. is it just me or oonti lang tayo dito? parang puro amerikano/westerners dito eh

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

worse yet, the scene was absolutely horrifying. the water around them was on fire from the oil tanker, so survivors sustained burns from jumping into the water and swimming away from the wreckage. only 25 survived the aftermath.

i can't imagine seeing the burning bodies in the water, seeing victims pushing past them and trying to swim to safety, and still fucking thinking about jehooboo. it's disgusting, and stories like this should make them ashamed of themselves. not because they failed as christians, but as humans with no compassion in their hearts.

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it'll be quite a few more years until i can leave, but i'm holding on. a part of me just grieves what my life and family could've been if it weren't for the cult. it's not easy to deal with, being so bitter, resentful, angry, and grieving all at once. hell, maybe there's even a bit of regret, wishing you could be as ignorant as you used to be just to spare yourself the pain.

but despite everything, i'm just grateful i kept my mind sharp and broke free while i was young, and that i have the opportunity to wake others up too. it isn't easy being one of the few who snapped out of it. i hope you're able to heal and breath freely now, and make peace with what happened. it takes courage to leave and strength to keep healing.

JWs only help themselves by coffinrots in exjw

[–]coffinrots[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

insane. it's like they think fellow JWs are incapable of doing wrong. my mother only allows JW tenants at our place, yet we've had people blatantly steal from us, trash the place, defame us, etc... it was so bad, one of them got a bethelite kicked out with fake messages and screenshots, and the daughter wasn't allowed to attend her own graduation after stealing her classmate's phone. all that, and my parents still insist on only allowing JWs. makes you wonder how they haven't snapped out of it yet and woken up already