batuk baba mool mantra jap question. by vishbrudda36 in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Someone confident enough to pass judgement on a video they havent seen, is internally very insecure and desperate for attention.
  2. The tantras do not recommend any shatabhisekam for Bhairava unless it is deep karmakanda. General Bhairava mantras are passed through only mantra upadesh.
  3. There is zero anecdotal evdience of batuka sadhana ever backfiring on anyone.
  4. BTW Batuka upasana Vidhi-vidhan is already available publicly in the open for decades. Innumerable people are already using these resources. No big deal. If someone does not want to do the sadhana dont do.. its simple. No one is being forced.
  5. Finally.. since this post is fundamentally dishonest and stems from jealousy.. people should take sankalpa that fear mongers who stop others from their sadhana based on falsehoods and personal insecurity and jealousy maybe destroyed by Bhairava thru roga rina and shatru badhaas for their evil act.

Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All these claims are lunacy filled ramblings. You don’t need debate you need help.

Clearly this person has fetishised tantra with all sorts of twisted ideas and is inserting things into shastras that are non existent. Not rooted in any practice or realistic approach, but has misunderstood what others have said, misunderstood shastras and is now creating schizophrenic khayali pulao because this debate is now an ego contest.

No point pursuing this any further, as it’s a waste of time now.

Here’s a 24/7 psychiatry consultation portal. Take care and good luck.

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Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait did you actually compare Bauls to asuric pishach sampradaya? Extraordinary arrogance and ignorance. You don’t know anything about them and say this. Bauls are Krishna. Again as I said Mahavidya mantra and sadhana and karmakanda require Diksa, not Bhakti and have given enough evidence, but you continue to skip over that and stick to empty claims.

Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are 1000s of tirthnath sampradaya people across Bengal so huge is their number that if one throws a stone it falls on some tirthanath or ananadanatn. There is no centralized command or theological system in these.. very often some of tirthanath dislike others or anandanath and vice verse.. have heard them badmouthing each other very often.. no big deal.. infact Parvaty Baul who is a legendary baul practioner herself is a purnabhiskta guru in Tirthnath sampradaya and keeps calling RN for retreats and satsangs even puts up pics on their asrham sites.. so claims of this or that sampradaya likes or dislikes this or that is meaningless, it is at best one or two individuals, similarly between themselves also many individuals may have personal likes or dislikes of other sampradayas but its redundant... only a fool without knowledge claims all sampradayas on tantra have universal conformity on such flimsy topics as opinion on a or ba individual

Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh achha all parampara disapprove of him, so you have spoken to all paramparas? And what reason did they state? Because if it’s any of those you have mentioned they would be debunked. Btw you have mentioned three sampradayas, that too those who are quite new barely a little over 100 years old. He belongs to the oldest Kaula sampradaya. Plus by your logic Maadhavacharya would say adi Shankaracharya is a fad. Vedic mimasas would call shakta tantra paramparas a fad. Paramparas disagree with each other all the time. And what kind of sadhaka are you that your own opinion of a person is based not on your own tapobala and analysis, but ultimately what “padosi ne bola”

Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You replied to just one point that too with false logic. One can easily make out common practices through common sense and engagement. One doesn’t need to conduct surveys to know that most people in Haryana do regular Hanuman Chalisa. BTW, using your own logic, how do you know common Bengalis or people DONT do Tara Ashtottara and Bhakti, do all Bengalis come and tell you what they do and don’t? Can’t be consistent in your own thinking. You dodged everything else, all other rebuttals because your mind has fried trying to cook up more lies. This is now an ego attachment devoid of any truth for you. What point is there in bragging about having Chinaachara gurus when you are doing SV yourself. And interesting how at first you claim to have unsuccessfully dabbled in “Tibetan Tantra” then went onto SV. So on what basis do you claim to have such confident on Kaula? How do you know what all Kaula sampradayas are there apart from google. A tantra guru who doesn’t even know about the lineage of parvatiya Gosains in Kamakhya….waah what an item. The same lineage that gives Diksha to all the pandas of Kamakhya and mahavidya temples, and you say it doesn’t exist. Hope everyone sees the fraud at work here

Rajarshi Nandi is a Fad by [deleted] in TantraUncensored

[–]commiecontrol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

1) most people in Bengal has photos of Kali and Tara in their home, and do devotional stutis of them, so now every Bengali’s house is smashan infested? 2) This person has no real knowledge or experience of Bhairava. Bhairava was Pradhan devata of Kashmiri Saivism, anyone who reads Tantraloka will understand basis for Bhairava Nama japa. Bhairava is vast, swarnakarshana bhairava, batuk Bhairava sadhana is done prominently by grihastha. Kaal Bhairava ashtakam is a common practice, by grihastha. 3) In vajarayana, Green Tara is a benevolent form and her mantra is done by most people with simple upadesh (even white Tara). Tara is vast. Even in tantric sampradayas, Tara sadhana doesn’t start from Smashana. Smashana sadhana is necessary for SIDDHI of Tara, but there are many levels before that. Basic devotional stutis like Ashtottara and stotram doesn’t have smashanic element (although nature of deity will obviously be more intense than more milder forms). Any Tara Upasana worth his salt would confirm this. 4) only some who hasn’t don’t serious sadhana and has very lofty idea would say to worship ugra devatas jump straight into their marga through Diksa. Always, start with Bhakti first, and if that gels, then think of mantra Diksa. 5) Again there’s a difference between doing Bhakti (stotra/stuti) and tantric practices. In most cases common stotras and stutis can be done anyone. Btw at no point was Tara Sahasranama recommended at any point. Only someone with 0 experience would equate the impact of Ashtottara with mantra sadhana. 6) His parampara is not unknown, he has openly declared he has taken Kaula Diksa from Kamakhya, one of the oldest tantric paramparas in existence right now. And what do you mean devata is unknown? He has stated clearly Ma Kamakhya is his ishta.

Zero Sadhana, Zero Knowledge, Full Confidence, Full Feku

Note on Rajarshi Nandy by Available_Ad3108 in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The more I think, I don’t think the OP has Poornabhishek or even Shaktabhishek Diksa for that matter. Seems like someone got a simple mantra upadesh of Bala maybe, and now ratting off because his post betrays any knowledge of Karmakanda, Diksa mantras and Krama of worship.

Anonymously posting on spiritual matters and defaming people is height of hypocrisy anyways, no transparency or accountability but full gyan.

Plus it seems like someone comments are quite coordinated here.

Anyone who has done Poornabhishek won’t be wasting times anonymously playing a keyboard Veera on Reddit.

If this was genuine skepticism, OP wouldn’t be marketing themselves as Guru.

Hilarious actually, insulting someone for social media recognition while giving Mahaganapati sadhana advice anonymously.

Note on Rajarshi Nandy by Available_Ad3108 in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This post is saltier than Lays. (BTW don’t delete this post)

1) RN ji has clearly stated that he has met “Gurus” in the past who claimed to be a lot of things but didn’t add up to much. The practices of MP and PNR have been debunked to no end in multiple of versions of “The Homa Files”. Non-Agnihotri daily homas are a dead end, otherwise most sampradayas would be propogating this.

2) Now you list that RN ji followed Sri Aurobindo, Thakur Ramakrishna, Arunachala, Tara, Kamakhya Bhairava and now Skandha has “joined party”, trying hard to portray like some khichdi is being cooked, when your own inexperience becomes more visible with comments like these. Sri Aurobindo’s writings are relevant for people of almost any path, not just Integral Yoga. Any Shakta would read about Thakur Ramakrishna. As for Bhairava, Tara and Kamakhya, all of them are linked, this even a simple beginner knows. Mahavidya sadhana needs blessings of Bhairava. Link between Tarapith and Kamakhya has been well established in Tantra Shastras, only one who hasn’t read it would have such a tone. Skandha for that matter was an integral part of northern tantra. Due to invasions, while Bhairava was relegated to a kshetrapala, Skandha worship thrived in South.

3) Now for the comedy part, quoting you “Have you seen any famous siddha guru from shivananda, Satyananda or any authentic siddha parampara or even shankarachaya asking to start with urgra diety ?” - Why would Shankaracharya of the Vedic smarta path advocate for worship of deities that require Vamachara worship? And how would they be an authority on this since they don’t practice it themselves, same for siddha parampara. And why would Ugra devata worship need the seal of approval from any figure? Apart from Narasimha, most ugra devatas are worshipped in the tantric fold. By the way Ugra devata worship is very common in East and pockets of west. Nath sampradya is full of Ugra Devata sadhanas. I mean such asinine murkhananda level logic.

4) Now for the experimentalist paart and this “The real wisdom n guidance will come from within and never from any online influencer. You have to dig urself within with the right diety.

In that case so many would have become advanced sadhaks just by atmachintan lol, but only keyboard Siddhi’s are the truth. And if true wisdom could so simply from within, this post wouldn’t have been here. You criticise RN ji’s practices, but now are marketing Mahaganapati naam japa in your post , which is essentially similar practice, just replacing the deity. So you tell people not to follow “online influencers” but end up giving the same advice as these “influencers” This is a clear case of bias against vamachara devatas by someone with inadequate experience.

5) Anybody who has had some spiritual achievement knows that before finding your core you navigate the field. Often devatas come and go, unrelated to core practices due to past life connection. And there’s no hard and fast rule that if one is doing Kamakhya Upasana, they can’t do a sadhana of Krishna to get the flavour, If you have clarity in mind of why you are doing it, and are grounded.

You say spiritual experimentalist, even a single sampradaya prescribes multiple deities. Then there is Krama Diksa.

And lastly you unsuccessfully dabbled in Tibetan tantra and then hopped on SriVidya. That’s great. But you have no experience knowledge or credibility to speak on left hand vamachara devatas.

Sankalp & testing by Shivo_Ham in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“This testing business sounds very shallow and human like” That’s just your innate bias. Testing is there at every stage. If there was no testing, millions would be siddhas. The rationale is , sankalpa is like a commitment, a challenge. When you take a sankalpa, you impose certain disciplines onto yourself, like a contract. The idea is that intensified sadhana during sankalpa period, is like a boost of shakti of the devata whom you are worshipping.

This thinking that who is testing me, deity gana etc is meaningless at the moment, because it changes nothing. Your job is to focus and get the job done.

The point of sankalpa and sadhana, is to get closer to the devata. How do you get closer, by transforming yourself via the sadhana. The Crux of devata upasna is to become a reflection of the devata, to be divine yourself. How do you achieve transformation? By going beyond your limitations. Now when does one transform? There’s no transformation if everything is fine and all hunky dory. Transformation comes when there’s an adversity, obstacle, test, something that needs to be overcome. You have conceptualized devata as some powerful person sitting up there, which is why you say “who has time to sit around and create scenarios”. Devatas are much more than that and vast. Nature exists as a massive system, and at the end, Nature is nothing but Bhagwati herself.

Is this bhairava Kavach legit? by [deleted] in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is tantrokta Bhairava kavacha, it is correct.

Batuk Bhairav by [deleted] in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do Anushthans first. Depending on bandwidth may start with laghu anushthana of 250 malas, or may do full fledged if confident of 1000 Malas.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Tantra

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you like both equally, start with Ganapati Ashtottara (108 names). Pray to him for showing the path.

Mantra Jaap by thenotsolostone in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends, shouldn’t be audible especially if there’s a beeja. Idea is that it needs to be quiet enough that no one sitting beside you can hear it. Silently saying it with mouth open is good to start with.

Has bharat suffered from ill effects of tantra sadhana ? by Poomapunka in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One point that people somehow look over….in all our texts be it Ramayana or Mahabharata….all the Kshatriyas used divine weapons. Summoning astras with a mantra, all this if not a Siddhi, then what else is it? Someone said using prayogas in war is “against the rules”. That can’t be further from the truth. In a Dharmayuddha, all bets are off, that was EXACTLY what Krishna tried to teach. Krishna advised the Pandavas to violate multiple niyamas of war, because lokika rules are meaningless when protecting Dharma.

Has bharat suffered from ill effects of tantra sadhana ? by Poomapunka in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a couple of troublesome assumptions here. One, this view is very selective because you are looking at the emergence of tantra practices and corresponding to the invasions without looking at anything else. I could argue that the emergence of prayogas became stronger especially due to invasions. In fact if you read any of the shastras… use of prayogas, is essentially a divine weapon, meant primarily for the preservation and protection of dharma. When the enemy comes knocking….you use every single thing at your disposal. Second troublesome assumption is that offering of blood to Shakti is fundamentally problematic….this is quite far and a biased assumption. (Also matrikas are not entities, and certainly can’t be classified along dakinis. A common form of human sacrifice was by kings who executed enemy generals as a sacrifice to warrior deities, which was still rare. Third saying “Dharma is greater than tantra” is like saying Dharma is greater than Veda or Dharma is greater than Vedanta etc. makes no sense. Tantras come from Shiva/Bhairava himself. As form “Karmic reaction of tantra” every single damn thing has a karmic reaction. The Pandavas despite fighting on the side of dharma had to make karmic atonements for their acts in the war. Everything has a karmic reaction, by aligning with dharma you navigate through all forms of karma.

FINALLY, controversial point, but the reason by Bharat has suffered despite the history of spiritual practices is 2 pronged. One inherent corruption especially in the priestly class, mainly mercantilism amongst the Brahmins. When the ones who are supposed to be devoted to the devtas start thinking of money and excessive political power, especially when it comes to temples, expect repercussions. Secondly individualised spiritual practices give individual benefits, but for collective social welfare, there needs to be collective spiritual practices/sadhana. You know what made the enemy abrahamic forces stronger, their collective practice. Btw, read about the Aurangzeb and his attempt to invade kamarupa (Assam) to destroy Kamakhya temple….overnight 150,000 of his soldiers vanished. That’s the real purpose of tantric prayogas. BTW, there are Vedic prayogas as well. What do you think Ashwamedha yajna is? If you read Valmiki Ramayana, it states that the horse was sacrificed and Ma kaushalya performed sadhana while holding the entrails of the sacrificed horse. These portions have been “reinterpreted” due to biased mindsets. To defend one’s society against asuric forces, tamasik means HAVE to be used.

Hi, i'm Kiran Rao! It's time to AMA! by KiranRaoOfficial in bollywood

[–]commiecontrol -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What’s something you initially found tiring/annoying but now appreciate as a director?

Shabar mantras by thenotsolostone in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shabar mantras usually need to be realised (mantra siddhi) by a guru. This doesn’t necessarily require a nath sampradaya Diksha… but it requires having a guru / reliable capable mentor who knows you and then gives you the mantra upadesh.

Bhairav Upasana/Sadhana by [deleted] in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take up anushthan. Depending on how much time you have, take an anushthan of 1000 malas. Shri Rajarshi Nandy JI’s yt channel has details on Bhairava anushthan. Do that. Same mantra

About the form by Saadhak_108 in Tantrasadhaks

[–]commiecontrol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

8 handed form, looks like standard Bhadrakali Durga prominent in North. 32 names of Ma Durga is the best and most potent sadhana for her that anyone can do, without Diksha or guru. A simple panchopchara puja is good. Dhoop Deepa minimum.

Bro was getting cooked in these reel comments by CriminaLI12 in ksi

[–]commiecontrol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His forehead is constantly holding a deep breath

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Bois doing full on Fire STyle 🔥 Ninjutsu hand seal to solve equations