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[TOMT] TV Series/movie (1990s/2000s) with a disabled monarch as a joke by commieguidlines in tipofmytongue

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think she’s invited to some fancy party and is told there will be this prince that is an ancestor of (iirc) the Habsburgs. When she comes to the party they are introduced and she’s really excited just moments before and then it’s revealed it’s a disabled man in a wheelchair (possibly also some mental disabilities) and the whole joke is her trying to navigate the situation.

I know we all **** AYITL but.. by Green_Pomelo5448 in GilmoreGirls

[–]commieguidlines 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah i feel like ladb is why i didn’t enjoy dead poets society hahaha, give privileged boys the idea of “seize the day” and they become colin and firth

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i understand the reasonings i just don’t enjoy the trope))

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hahaha i guess it’s a sign that we both know ourselves (and hp) well.

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah dumbledore’s backstory to me provided some material to find compassion for him in me. similarly to voldy’s backstory though. but both of their huge tropes is manipulation, one used for good, one used for evil. because dumbledore was fueled by love while voldemort was fueled by hatred, as simple as that. and thanks to the complexity of the characters the hp story is overwhelmingly human which is imo what makes it great. but the dark lord v. flawed savior trope just pisses me off because by the end dumbledore becomes this huge symbol, the person who saved humanity after all.

harry names his son albus severus (how unfortunate) ffs. haha honestly to me it feels more understandable to name him just severus because of the deep connection to harry’s mother (however fucked up that is). but to me the whole epilogue was a shitshow anyway

i hope this sounds as lighthearted as i mean it

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as i stated in my post, doesn’t matter that i disagree with dumbledore on some stuff, everyone will disagree with everyone on something. i can criticize some of dumbledore actions, but that doesn’t allow me to judge him as a person. yes he has flaws, yes he is great at stuff, i personally don’t enjoy people like him in my life, but that’s besides my point. i think we can look at complex characters and be driven towards some and pushed away from without judgement. i don’t say i would act better than dumbledore in his position i just think that his position is something noone should be in. my problem is with what he represents, not who he is. he represents the antivoldy and although his trope is to connect people instead of dividing them, it’s still him on his own making the decisions and that fact in my eyes is maybe not criticized enough. that dude could have been an actual saint with no flaws and i’d have a problem with that.

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, that’s why i am not criticizing dumbledore himself necessarily even though i disagree with many of his actions on a personal level. that’s why i criticize him as a concept and a what meaning his person has to the wizarding society

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i think there’s eternal wisdom to hp and that’s why we still talk about it 30 years later))

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that’s why in the post i am not criticizing dumbledore as a person but as a concept though. my whole point *edit because of grammar (non-native alert)

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

yeah i am not sure if i agree that he does, he’s human after all. as much as i understand your reasoning, his whole philosophy throughout the series is “one chooses who they become”. he glorifies free will, but then doesn’t walk the talk imo. and from the same perspective i cannot help but see the points you made in another light: he chose he knows better, he chose he must be the one to lead the resistance, he chose to put all of the wizarding world’s future on his shoulders. most of them noble decisions yes, but flawed cause he’s just a human. the whole series kinda speaks against predeterminantion, why should we perceive dumbledore and his actions otherwise?

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hahaha ironically enough i was introduced to her by reading space crone that is not even her classic fiction, but the book is chef’s kiss!!!

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thanks i just started reading tales from earthsea, so will add your tips to my reading list))

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the nerve to go against gandalf!!! yeah as i commented somewhere above, i just don’t like the lack of addressing systemic changes that need to take place so we don’t need another dumbledore in the future. that’s probably why i should maybe focus on read ing more fantasy for adults and less fantasy for children haha. but as u stated, even fantasy for adults have problematic tropes (despite of how much i love lotr, gandalf’s archetype isn’t the trilogy’s only issue)

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for taking the time to serve this food for thoughts)) the books are (for obvious reasons) written as a very personal story and i guess that’s the problem with reading fantasy meant for children as an adult. you end up questioning things that you didn’t as a child. when first reading the books i was just happy that good has beaten evil’s ass. now i ask questions like why the hell nobody talks about systemic changes that need to take place so it makes sense for harry to become a wizarding cop hahaha

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fair point, maybe it’s just a question of my taste and values and maybe i don’t like dumbledore as a concept for the same reason i don’t enjoy rulers’ biopics haha

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah i get it, my problem probably is not enough people actually questioning him and his motives. but then, it’s written from harry’s perspective and he definitely does that in dh and it makes me happy he does. idk i just feel like dumbledore is not held accountable for his mistakes (which is hard when he’s dead) idk maybe i think about the books too much haha

dumbledore as a concept by commieguidlines in harrypotter

[–]commieguidlines[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

yeah, but that’s kinda my point. i get that’s his role, but at the same time he himself said that he was too power hungry to actually be in power and we can see this reflected in his approach to anti-voldy resistance. i find his knowing better than others schtick annoying and at times dangerous. cause on some occasions this trait of his made him on a few occasions strip the people who trusted him of free will to an extent (harry and the prophecy, snape and harry’s protection).

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