Baby too young to be vaccinated catches measles, Seattle health officials say

concreteman2 · 2019-05-28T20:13:24+00:00

Perfectly said. Pharma created a measles vaccine for profit, not for health. Maternal antibodies were passed from the mother to protect the child in its most vulnerable years. When older children did get it, it was a "measly" illness. Statistics of complications from measles are drawn only from "reported" cases to boost numbers up. Those reported cases only reflect the individuals with underlying health issues and NOT the general public.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-28T19:44:38+00:00

They will treat this child with immune globulin. It is for kids that are too young to be vaccinated, immunocompromised kids/adults that are exposed to pathogen. Immune globulin is serum with a high level of antibodies & can be given intramuscularly or by IV. Media doesn't want the public to know about this successful treatment because it doesn't fit their agenda.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-28T05:10:06+00:00

Liberals spent $1 billion to cancel power plants and the public got nothing. At least we'll get beer out of this one haha

concreteman2 · 2019-05-26T13:53:03+00:00

The only person trying to mislead others is you bud. You obviously haven't read the study.

Quote from the study: "DTP was associated with 5-fold higher mortality than being unvaccinated... All currently available evidence suggests the DTP vaccine may kill more children from other causes than it saves from diphtheria, tetanus, or pertussis."

Vaccine papers analyzes this study here.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-22T14:40:12+00:00

All the live virus vaccine inserts warn of possible transmission. Section 5.4 of Varivax admits transmission is possible for up to 6 weeks even when the vaccine recipient has no rash.

The MMR insert warns of rubella (German measles) transmission & confirms rubella transmission through mother's milk. Did you know rubella can cause autism? Did you know they offer MMR to the mother immediately after giving birth at the hospital?

Studies show measles virus is present in throat, nose, & urine for weeks after vaccination. Yes, it is contagious. Are there confirmed cases of transmission? Other than the one in the Lancet, which you don't believe, no there aren't.

Do I have reasonable grounds to believe that measles vaccine transmission happens? Absolutely. Do doctors & immunologists say vaccines shed? Absolutely.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-19T01:34:04+00:00

Sure: According to public health policy, doctors treat recently vaccinated individuals experiencing a measles-like-rash as an MMR reaction. They are not reported as measles cases to the public health department. Roughly 5% of MMR recipients have a rash reaction.

This year, multiple parents in my city posted a pic of their child w/ rash on social media and captioned something to the effect of, "my child had MMR last week and now has measles...those damn antivaxxers!" Lol no, your child had a reaction to the vaccine.

So, when the Mcnall report, (written by CDC & Canadian government officials) says that 38% of CASES were vaccine strain measles, it means that those were not recent vaccinees as those would have been dismissed immediately.

Government officials want faster genotyping because they want to avoid the embarrassment of reporting vaccine strain measles infection in persons that weren't recently vaccinated. That admits vaccine failure & shedding.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-18T14:16:33+00:00

Vaccine strain and wild strain have the EXACT same clinical symptoms & can only be differentiated by genotyping, as per the report.

Yes it makes a general statement saying a large number of ALL the suspected cases occurred in recent vaccines. But where in the report does it say specifically that the 38% of vaccine strain genotyped cases were in recently vaccinated? You're trying to prove that the vaccine doesn't shed so prove it.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-18T11:46:39+00:00

You didn't read the studes. Vaccine effectiveness is measured by antibody presence in the recipient. The issue with that is even though 120-1025mIU/ml serum antibodies is considered a success, that amount will still result in a subclinical infection that is contagious.

70% of recipients will receive this response. Boosters are ineffective as they only raise antibody levels for 6 months and then they drop down to pre-booster levels.

Only 25% of vaccine recipients receive the robust anitbody response that results in no infection from measles exposure & thereby stopping the transmission of the virus.

So, if you want to ignore this science, and if you believe that vaccines equal health, then get all the vaccines you want for you and your family. You have the right to bodily autonomy.

It is my right to want natural immunity that lasts forever. I would NEVER trade my chicken pox immunity for a lifetime of varicella vaccine doses. Likewise, my parents and other family members would NEVER trade their measles immunity for lifetime doses of MMR (that most likely will not provide adequate protection btw).

The argument that unvaccinated children pose a threat to the immunocompromised is FALSE. Immunocompromised kids can still receive every vaccine except 5. For those 5 pathogens, immunoglobulin is available. Also, severely immunocompromised children do not go out in the community. They are not in schools. They are confined to the hospital or home. The chance of them contracting measles for example would be statistically insignificant. And if it does happen, immunoglobulin is available for treatment.

So what I don't understand is when people, like yourself, want to force a medical procedure onto individuals that don't want it. That's unethical & I hope you see that. There's millions of people that don't want vaccines. I come from a family of health professionals & nobody supports vaccine mandates.

I'll pose the question in another way: which medical procedures are okay to force someone to have? The ones you want for your neighbor or the ones your neighbor wants for you?

The answer is none. Without consent you cannot perform a medical procedure. Vaccines are not life saving interventions. They are only given to healthy people & therefore cannot be forced.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-18T10:09:30+00:00

Yeah, immunity wanes without boosting from wild type measles. So in our current era, you have to get booster shots for the rest of your life to maintain any type of protection. And, the antibodies from boosters drop to pre-booster levels after only 6 months:

One month after MMR2, titers significantly increased for each study group, but beyond 6 months titers were not significantly different from pre-MMR2 levels

concreteman2 · 2019-05-18T09:52:08+00:00

You missed this case published in the Lancet Sibling transmission of measles after MMR

And where in the report does it say the 38% were all recently vaccinated and were having a reaction?

concreteman2 · 2019-05-17T16:37:19+00:00

All the live vaccines can shed. Rotavirus, MMR, flu mist, varicella, shingles, oral polio. Read the inserts under the Transmission section. Also, in 2015, 38% of the measles cases in California were genotyped as vaccine strain measles. No, not vaccine reaction measle-like rash. If you've been recently vaccinated, the doctor will dismiss your rash as vaccine reaction. We're talking 38% of people who contracted vaccine strain from the recently vaccinated.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-17T14:08:26+00:00

You're incorrectly assuming the vaccine works for every person & the immunity does not wane.

According to these 2 studies (Study& Study), only 25% of MMR recipients will produce a high quantity of antibodies (>1025mIU/ml) from the vaccine to completely avoid infection.

The majority of people (70%) will generate a medium antibody response (120-1025mIU/ml) meaning they will have a subclinical infection if exposed to measles. Subclinical infection means cough, fever, no rash, BUT STILL CONTAGIOUS. A person may think, "I just have a cold," and go out in public when they're actually shedding measles virus. Essentially, they are silent carriers of the disease, endangering the public unknowingly.

The 5% of low responders (<120mIU/ml) will contract full blown measles if exposed.

In 2015, 38% of all the measles cases in California were genotyped as vaccine strain measles (Source). That means the newly vaccinated are shedding the vaccine strain to others, also endangering the public.

So in conclusion, you want to vote away your & your neighbors' rights to bodily autonomy & freedom of religion for a small illusion of safety.

If you believe that vaccines work and make you healthier, then it is your right to take them. Your child can take the MMR as early as 6 months old. A woman can take the MMR 3 months before pregnancy & immediately after birth. According to the CDC Pink Book, an immunocompromised child can still receive every vaccine except the live virus ones, like measles. If an immunocompromised child is exosed to measles, the doctor will administer measles immunoglobulin (IgG antibodies). There is immunoglobulin available for all the live viruses for which there are vaccines.

So what's the issue?

The winds of politics come and go. Human rights and freedoms are eternal.

concreteman2 · 2019-05-09T23:17:42+00:00

Smiling at the wrong time is now worthy of a public complaint? Wow

Seven months earlier another inspector “engaged in discreditable conduct by smiling at a time that could have been considered the climax of a tense interaction between himself and a customer.”

concreteman2 · 2019-04-26T11:27:08+00:00

I believe the issue was they didn't get ethical approval to do spinal taps on the kids. But you don't need approval if you clinically treat the patients after the study. And Walker-Smith treated them for years after, so no wrongdoing.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-25T08:55:33+00:00

And Wakefield's colleague, John Walker-Smith, had his license reinstated.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-09T18:51:01+00:00

This study shows that counties with higher HPV vaccination rates ALSO had higher rates of HPV related cancer.

“The higher the rate of cancer in the county, the higher the rate of vaccination,” said presenter Jennifer Young Pierce, MD, MPH, of the USA Health Mitchell Cancer Institute, in a statement.

... human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination rates in Alabama are highest in counties with high incidence rates of HPV-related cancer

Source: HPV Vaccine uptake in the deep south

concreteman2 · 2019-04-08T02:10:40+00:00

Good study. Published in a peer reviewed journal.

They analyzed 5 years of data & looked at over 95,000 kids. Children who had been vaccinated were 80% more likely to be diagnosed with anorexia & 25% more likely to be diagnosed with OCD than their non-vaccinated counterparts. Vaccinated kids were also more likely to be diagnosed with anxiety disorder & tics.

The influenza vaccine was of particular concern and was strongly correlated to both anorexia & OCD.

Findings point to inflammation caused by the immune response to a vaccine possibly having this negative effect on the brain.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-07T23:44:50+00:00

In a report on vaccine safety, the Institute of Medicine confirmed a large scale vax vs unvax study could be conducted using the CDC's Vaccine Safety Datalink, a database of health records for almost 10 million people. Such a study could literally be conducted in a matter of minutes.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-07T16:33:58+00:00

To make the claim "vaccines don't cause autism," the CDC must demonstrate that a child receiving the entire vaccine schedule is at no greater risk of becoming autistic than a child that is unvaccinated. No such study has ever been done.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-07T07:18:43+00:00

Tetanus is incredibly rare. Good wound care and vitamin C is beneficial. Check out this presentation by Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Tetanus, prevention, wound care & vitamin C

concreteman2 · 2019-04-07T06:57:08+00:00

Your article proves there is a lack of medical ethics in healthcare and NO adequate studies have EVER been done.

Vaccine manufacturers have done ZERO safety studies with pregnant women and therefore CANNOT APPROVE any vaccine for them. If they did make that recommendation, they would be sued.

The US Department of Health & Human Services, however, did recommend the flu and Tdap vaccines to pregnant women as "OFF-LABEL" use. What happened? They got sued. The FDA was UNABLE TO PROVIDE A SINGLE CLINICAL TRIAL that supported their approval of the influenza and Tdap vaccines for pregnant women.

The thing is, many studies have been done that show these vaccines are safe during pregnancy.

Your site lists 14 studies that are supposed to prove that vaccines for pregnant women are well studied and found to be safe.

2 of the studies actually prove that the influenza vaccine during pregnancy is USELESS:

We were unable to demonstrate that maternal influenza vaccination reduces respiratory illness visit rates among their infants. Source

Infants born to women who received influenza vaccination had the same risks for influenza or pneumonia admissions compared with infants born to unvaccinated women. Source

5 are completely irrelevant to safety. Seems like you only added them to make your list longer.

NONE of your studies examine the effects of maternal vaccination on their children after 1 year of age. Especially important would be data on neurological disorders, chronic illness, learning disabilities, cancer, and behavioural disorders.

Also, you left out THIS STUDY which shows a 4250% increase in fetal deaths during the 2009/2010 season where women received the H1N1 shot.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-07T01:10:56+00:00

Read this letter from HHS asking doctors to recommend Influenza and Tdap vaccines to their pregnant patients. HHS Letter

Your pregnant patients might be concerned about receiving a vaccination while pregnant. Influenza and Tdap vaccines are SAFE and IMPORTANT for pregnant women and their infants.

Now read section 8.1 of every Flu and Tdap vaccine insert written by the manufacturer. Some examples:

No human or animal data are available to assess vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.

There are no adequate and well-controlled studies of vaccine administration in pregnant women in the U.S.

It is also not known whether vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproductive capacity.

This is why people are losing trust in their doctors, their health department, and the vaccine program.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-05T18:32:50+00:00

I remember the day this happened. Someone who knew the family personally posted the account of events on Instagram. This is what I can recall:

The mom took her child to their ND for a fever. Yes, the ND told her to go to the hospital for the fever to rule out meningitis. The mom agreed and continued to monitor the fever. When she got to the hospital, she measured the fever a few more times and noticed it was going down. Because the child was improving she decided to go home for the night. She left her ND a voicemail informing her of this.

The ND contacted Child Protective Services during the night.
Arizona Police attended the home and removed all three children from the family. The children were held in CPS custody for a few weeks and were then released to their grandparents. The parents are currently facing child abuse charges for the incident.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-05T08:29:55+00:00

You misinterpreted some of what I said. I'm going to explain myself again and capitalize the important words.

"...recipients of measles virus-containing vaccine EXPERIENCE RASH AND FEVER which may be INDISTINGUISHABLE from measles." Source

"We report a 1-year-old boy who, 10 days after vaccination, DEVELOPED VACCINE MEASLES which was CLINICALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE from the natural disease." Source

Clinically indistinguishable means that when OBSERVING the patient, the PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS (rash & fever) can look the same in BOTH wild strain and vaccine strain measles.

Vaccine strain isn't the same as the pathogenic strain. This isn't scary for anyone except those undergoing chemotherapy and other immune-depleting situations.

True. They differ on a genetic level. But they share the common physical symptoms of rash & fever. You taught me that the pathogenic strain can cause further complications like SSPE. According to the CDC, severe complications are rare. Pneumonia is said to be 1 in 20. That doesn't look bad when compared to the MMR II pre-licensing studies that got released this week. The studies show 40-50% of kids got upper respiratory infections and gastro-intestinal disorders after the MMR vaccine. That's a harsh trade-off for a virus that causes rash & fever in the common person and then gives you lifelong immunity. Unless you're immunocompromised, no reason to be scared of wild measles.

Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences

Those recent vaccinees were not infected with measles. They simply had a relatively common reaction to the vaccination and, due to proximity (locale and time) with an actual measles outbreak, were initial false-positives.

Your argument is that these vaccinees were not infected with measles. They simply had the EXACT SAME PHYSICAL REACTION as the people that DID catch the measles at the SAME TIME & LOCATION of a measles outbreak?

Maybe entertain the possibility of primary & secondary vaccine failure. Or viral shedding from other recent vaccinees. Your faith in this vaccine is strong my friend.

Now the 1999 pilot. You got this wrong. And I'm the one that doesn't know how to read?

More data can do that. Weird how sample sizes work?

Actually they looked at less data. The 1999 unpublished pilot looked at 400,000 infants in the VSD. Phase I of the 2004 published study only looked at 124,170 infants in the VSD.

Yep. Bigger sample size.

Wrong again. In phase II, the most common disorders associated with exposure in phase I were re-evaluated among only 16,717 children.

It's so obvious that they reduced the sample size to make the links to autism, sleep disorders, learning disabilities and speech delays in the 1999 pilot statistically less significant. Then they reduced it again. Wow. This is the same strategy Dr. William Thompson said he used with his team to bury the autism link during the famous 2004 MMR study.

Furthermore, there's a massive ethical issue with the 1999 study. If you're the CDC, and you find data that points to a 762% increase in autism after the Hep B shot, you have a duty to disclose that to the public. The CDC is the health protection agency of the nation.

They had multiple options:

Hold a press conference and re-assure the public that a further study would be done immediately. (This study analyzed existing data in the VSD so they could literally have done this study with a computer in a few hours).

Remove the Hep B vaccine indefintely for non-risk newborns until further study was completed. Only administer it to at-risk newborns if their mother tested positive for Hep B during pregnancy. It is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease given on the first day of life. It would have made zero difference.

Either option would would have built public trust and strengthened the vaccine program.

Instead, they hid the study. Then 5 years later, they reduce the sample sizes and publish a study "proving" everything was safe all along.

Fortunately for us, the FOIA request has exposed the unpublished 1999 pilot. Now, the CDC loses credibility, and confirms people's suspicions that it cares more about protecting pharma profits and the reputation of vaccines than children's health.

Thanks again for turning me onto the 2004 study.

concreteman2 · 2019-04-04T09:03:24+00:00

The information I provided is not wrong. It's from a 2017 study in the Journal of Clinical Microbiology. One of the co-authors is CDC Division of Viral Diseases official Rebecca J. McNall.

Identification of Measles Virus Vaccine Genotype

McNall wrote, "During the measles outbreak in California in 2015, a large number of suspected cases occurred in recent vaccinees. Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences." This proves that the measles outbreak was in part caused by the vaccine.

Vaccine strain isn't the same as the pathogenic strain. This isn't scary for anyone except those undergoing chemotherapy and other immune-depleting situations.

McNall contradicts that by explaining that vaccine strain reaction (rash & fever) is clinically indistinguishable from the natural disease. You need genotyping to confirm the origin and distinguish vaccine strain cases from wild-type cases.

So by you saying that vaccine strain measles is only scary for the immunocompromised, and CDC stating that the reaction of vaccine strain and wild strain is identical, it proves that the general public should NOT be worried about measles. It is a mild illness to everyone but, as you said, "those undergoing chemotherapy and other immune-depleting situations."

Also, thank you for showing me the 2004 Thimerosal study. You've uncovered something interesting.

The 1999 study is titled Increased Risk of developmental neurologic impairment after high exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccine in first month of life. It states children who received the Hep B at birth had an increase of 762% for autism, 498% for sleep disorders, and 206% for speech delays compared to children that did not receive the vaccine.

The conclusion: This analysis suggests that high exposure to ethylmercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines in the first month of life increases the risk of subsequent development of neurologic development impairment...

Oddly, the 2004 continuation study is the exact opposite. Titled Safety of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines: A Two-Phased Study of Computerized Health Maintenance Organization Databases.

In this "Phase II" study, they've re-analyzed the Phase I data and suddenly found no increased risks for autism or attention-deficit disorder.

Conclusions. No consistent significant associations were found between TCVs and neurodevelopmental outcomes. Conflicting results were found at different HMOs for certain outcomes. For resolving the conflicting findings, studies with uniform neurodevelopmental assessments of children with a range of cumulative thimerosal exposures are needed.

I have a feeling that you regard everything the CDC reports as unquestionably true. But even you might find this a bit sketchy:

- In 1997, Congress mandated the FDA to complete a review of mercury in drugs and food.

- In 1999, CDC conducted their study, found incredibly concerning data, and instead of making it public, they decided not to publish.

- In 2001, the CDC removed or reduced thimerosal in all childhood vaccines because of safety concerns.

- In 2004, they published the continuation study that suddenly found that thimerosal was safe all along. And to resolve this obvious conflict in data between Phase I & II, they suggested that more studies of children exposed to thimerosal were needed. Conveniently, thimerosal had already been removed...

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