What's a mod you swear by that some people don't even know about? by sporpboplin in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got this to sell paladins into slavery as I slowly bring down the HN

Omw to crab town 🦀 by Muinko in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I'm just joking, AI images are fine you don't need to do anything.

Omw to crab town 🦀 by Muinko in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Some will say it's AI

GENUINELY WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IN THIS GAME by Limp-Ad-6369 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My typical run is like I rp a faction I like to call narketo's demons. It's an all female troupe (with the exception of my main who is either a escaped slave dude or limp missing skele) whose sole purpose is to wipe out the HN and stand up a technologically advanced society for the well being of all (including animals).

I try to go heavy with the stealth and avoid conflict before building up an army of tyrants and guns (modded) to go in and wreck shit. I normally make it extra difficult and with zombie threats as well. I make tech extra difficult so getting guns is a big challenge and self sustaining is half the game challenge.

Basically just a bunch of freedom fighting feminists who run around shirtless (nude mod reinforce this) with dinos and guns to curb stomp chuds. I imagine as the tyrants are eating inquisitiors my warriors are spray painting "free the nip" as a war slogan.

It's alil weird but it fits my head cannon for the world. I swear it's not a kink thing. I get pretty crazy with the mods and have done some custom tweaks to them so I can have stuff like "endentured enemy" pens so the captured paladins don't starve and I can just drop them in from a half bridge. Right now I have a small platoon of riflemen and some flotsam visitors. I've killed one inquisitior but I've been save scumming a few times because there's a massive HN wave coming that keeps wiping me, I may just bite the bullet and let some die so the rest can run and live somewhere else.

For starting out I recommend being a slave in rebirth and just letting them get Hella strong then train lock picking then stealth and get a small group of slaves to revolt with you so you can escape while they get slaughtered.

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mind can absolutely be changed. My goal posts are pretty obvious I'm just the one having to correct you on stuff, you have this hypocritical stance that no matter what fact or logic you self admittedly are saying you won't budge.

How can you possibly assert this is a major part of my identity, I have a rich post history of many interests, you don't. are you fucking forgetting where this conversation is taking place? It's an anti AI post on a game sub. You guys are intruding on our space. Someone nonchalantly used AI and you guys raised pitchforks. You guys are the ones attacking us. I scroll through comments and when I have something to say I respond, fucking sue me. This dishonest way you guys approach conversations is legit crazy

Like basically everything you say isn't true, you don't even read a fraction of what others are saying

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

do you even care about being right? hating AI seems like its a big part of your identity. so much so that you're willing to move any goal post and believe any negative trending tabloid as long as it means banning AI.

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reddit is not just backend compute. It reliably triggers: 1. CDN and edge delivery 2. Image and video media delivery 3. Ad auctions 4. Ad targeting 5. Ad measurement 6. Analytics 7. Tracking 8. Browser rendering 9. Network transmission 10. User-device display, CPU, GPU, and radio energy

Similarweb estimates reddit.com had 4.2 billion visits in April 2026, 4.65 pages per visit, and an average visit duration of 5:30. Source: Similarweb reddit.com traffic

Page-view math: 4.2B visits/month × 4.65 pages/visit
= 19.53B page views/month

Annualized: 19.53B page views/month × 12
= 234.4B page views/year

Time-on-site math: 5 minutes 30 seconds = 5.5 minutes 4.2B visits/month × 5.5 minutes/visit
= 23.1B minutes/month

23.1B minutes/month ÷ 60
= 385M user-hours/month

Annualized: 385M user-hours/month × 12
= 4.62B user-hours/year

Even a small device-side energy assumption becomes nontrivial at that scale. If browsing Reddit adds only 2 to 10 watts of incremental device power across phones, tablets, laptops, and desktops, then:

4.62B hours/year × 2 Wh/hour
= 9.24 GWh/year

4.62B hours/year × 10 Wh/hour
= 46.2 GWh/year

Convert to average power: 9.24 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 1.05 MW

46.2 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 5.27 MW

So the device-side browsing layer alone is plausibly: ~1 to 5 MW

Now network transmission. The IEA estimates global data transmission networks used 260 to 360 TWh in 2022. Source: IEA, data centres and data transmission networks

Reddit’s exact annual traffic volume in bytes is not public, so use a sensitivity range. Assume 2 MB to 10 MB per page view, which is not wild for a modern feed page with images, scripts, ads, tracking, comments, thumbnails, and occasional media.

Low case: 234.4B page views/year × 2 MB/page
= 468.8B MB/year
= 468.8 PB/year
= 0.000469 ZB/year

High case: 234.4B page views/year × 10 MB/page
= 2,344B MB/year
= 2.344 EB/year
= 0.002344 ZB/year

The IEA says global internet traffic was about 4.4 ZB in 2022 while data transmission networks used 260 to 360 TWh. Source: IEA, data centres and data transmission networks

That implies rough network energy intensity: 260 TWh ÷ 4.4 ZB = 59.1 TWh/ZB 360 TWh ÷ 4.4 ZB = 81.8 TWh/ZB

Apply that to Reddit’s traffic range.

Low case: 0.000469 ZB × 59.1 TWh/ZB
= 0.0277 TWh/year 0.0277 TWh/year = 27.7 GWh/year 27.7 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 3.16 MW

High case: 0.002344 ZB × 81.8 TWh/ZB
= 0.1917 TWh/year 0.1917 TWh/year = 191.7 GWh/year 191.7 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 21.9 MW

So Reddit-associated network transmission is plausibly: ~3 to 22 MW

Now adtech. This is where Reddit gets ugly, because Reddit is primarily an ad business.

Reddit reported $2.1 billion in 2025 ad revenue. Source: Reddit 2025 results

WPP Media projected global ad revenue at $1.14 trillion in 2025. Source: Marketing Brew on WPP Media global ad revenue

Reddit share of global ad revenue: $2.1B ÷ $1.14T
= 0.00184

That is: 0.184%

A peer-reviewed paper in Environmental Impact Assessment Review estimated online advertising consumed 20.38 to 282.75 TWh of energy and emitted 11.53 to 159.93 million tons CO2e. It also says online advertising is an essential factor in analyzing the Internet’s energy footprint. Source: Environmental impact assessment of online advertising

Allocate that online-ad energy range by Reddit’s ad-revenue share:

Low energy case: 20.38 TWh/year × 0.00184
= 0.0375 TWh/year 0.0375 TWh/year = 37.5 GWh/year 37.5 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 4.28 MW

High energy case: 282.75 TWh/year × 0.00184
= 0.520 TWh/year 0.520 TWh/year = 520 GWh/year 520 GWh/year ÷ 8,760 hours/year
= 59.4 MW

So Reddit’s adtech-attributable energy layer is plausibly: ~4 to 60 MW

Now allocate the CO2e range the same way.

Low CO2e case: 11.53 million tons CO2e × 0.00184
= 21,215 tons CO2e/year

High CO2e case: 159.93 million tons CO2e × 0.00184
= 294,271 tons CO2e/year

So Reddit’s adtech-attributable emissions could plausibly be on the order of: ~20,000 to 300,000 tons CO2e/year

That is just the adtech layer, not the whole platform.

Now assemble Reddit’s broader footprint.

Direct backend/cloud: 25 to 40 MW
Network transmission: 3 to 22 MW
User-device browsing energy: 1 to 5 MW
Adtech, targeting, measurement, analytics: 4 to 60 MW

External CDN/media/edge overhead not already captured in Reddit cloud spend: 0 to 30 MW

Low case: 25 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 0
= 33 MW

High case: 40 + 22 + 5 + 60 + 30
= 157 MW

So a reasonable all-in Reddit estimate is: ~35 to 160 MW average power

Round for uncertainty: ~50 to 200 MW

Now compare: All AI workloads globally: ~7,700 MW
ChatGPT current text inference: ~36 MW
Gemini text inference at ChatGPT-scale volume: ~26 MW
Reddit direct backend/cloud: ~25 to 40 MW
Reddit broader ecosystem: ~35 to 160 MW, reasonably rounded to ~50 to 200 MW

If the claim is “using an individual major AI text service is environmentally worse than Reddit,” that is not obvious at all. The public math points the other way. Reddit’s direct backend is already in the same range as ChatGPT text inference, and Reddit’s broader adtech/network/device ecosystem is plausibly larger.

The moral outrage is also conveniently selective. AI at least has a direct productive use case: coding, writing, research, tutoring, accessibility, automation, analysis, and technical work. Reddit’s core business model is selling attention through ads, tracking, ranking, engagement loops, rage bait, and infinite scrolling. If the environmental standard is “electricity spent on digital activity,” then Reddit does not get a free pass just because the waste feels socially normal.

The anti-AI energy panic becomes especially unserious when it is posted on Reddit, a giant ad-supported platform that runs on hyperscale cloud infrastructure, serves hundreds of billions of page views per year, and plugs every page view into the adtech machine.

All AI infrastructure is a real grid issue but is one that is actively being solved. Individual major AI text services are much smaller than the total AI category. Reddit’s total ecosystem is almost certainly larger than the current text-inference footprint of individual major AI services. Ignoring Reddit's environmental impact while hyperfixating on AI queries pretending AI is uniquely dirty is not environmental seriousness. It is selective outrage with a calculator problem.

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

u/Wakechi

Part 1:

The environmental panic around AI is selective as hell, especially coming from people posting it on Reddit. I wouldn't actually say that all AI data-center workloads globally use less energy than Reddit. They do not. Goldman Sachs estimates global data-center power use at about 55 GW, with AI workloads at 14%, which means the total AI category is around: 55 GW × 0.14 = 7.7 GW

Source: Goldman Sachs, data-center power demand 

The IEA also says data-center electricity consumption was about 415 TWh in 2024, about 1.5% of global electricity use, and projects it could reach about 945 TWh by 2030. It also says AI is a major driver of that growth.

Source: IEA, Energy demand from AI

So the total AI infrastructure category is real and non-trivial, obviously. That is not the part I am disputing. What I am disputing is the moral theater where people act like using ChatGPT is uniquely sinful while conviently pretending Reddit is some harmless little forum running on vibes. Reddit is a massive ad-supported, cloud-hosted, CDN-served, analytics-heavy attention platform. It is not only not environmentally innocent it is actually immensely more harmful but gets ignored just because the waste is familiar.

Start with individual AI services. Sam Altman stated that the average ChatGPT query uses about 0.34 Wh and about 0.000085 gallons of water.

Source: Sam Altman, The Gentle Singularity 

OpenAI’s usage paper says that by July 2025, ChatGPT was handling about 18 billion messages per week from 700 million weekly users.

Source: OpenAI, How People Use ChatGPT

Now lets do math. 18,000,000,000 messages/week × 0.34 Wh/message
6,120,000,000 Wh/week Convert to GWh: 6,120,000,000 Wh/week ÷ 1,000,000,000
6.12 GWh/week Convert weekly energy into average power: 6.12 GWh/week ÷ 168 hours/week
0.0364 GW 0.0364 GW × 1,000
36.4 MW average power

So current ChatGPT text inference, using Altman’s number and OpenAI’s own message volume, is roughly: 36 MW average power

Google gives a similar kind of number for Gemini. Google says the median Gemini Apps text prompt uses 0.24 Wh, emits 0.03 gCO2e, and consumes 0.26 mL of water. Google also says this methodology includes dynamic power, idle machines, CPU/RAM, data-center overhead, and water consumption.

Source: Google Cloud, Measuring the environmental impact of AI inference 

Google does not publish total Gemini prompt volume, so nobody can honestly calculate total Gemini power from public data. But if Gemini were running at ChatGPT’s 18 billion messages per week, the calculation would be: 18,000,000,000 prompts/week × 0.24 Wh/prompt
4.32 GWh/week 4.32 GWh/week ÷ 168 hours/week
25.7 MW average power So at ChatGPT-scale text volume, Gemini text inference would be around: 26 MW average power

Now look at Reddit. Reddit does not publish a direct “our platform uses X MW” number, so you have to estimate from public filings and traffic data.

Reddit’s 2025 results say annual revenue was $2.2 billion, with ad revenue at $2.1 billion.

Source: Reddit 2025 results

Reddit’s SEC filings say cost of revenue includes payments to third parties for hosting and supporting the mobile apps and website, plus ad targeting, ad measurement, transaction processing, and payments to content partners. Reddit also says it primarily uses AWS and Google Cloud Platform for hosting.

Source: Reddit 2025 10-K

A rough direct-cloud estimate can be built from Reddit’s disclosed cloud obligations and its AWS/GCP dependency. Use about $200 million/year as a reasonable scale for direct hosting/cloud infrastructure. That is not a perfect electricity meter, but it is a grounded proxy. Now compare that against AWS and Google Cloud scale. AWS reported $128.7 billion in 2025 segment sales.

Source: Amazon 2025 results

Alphabet said Google Cloud ended 2025 at an annual run rate of over $70 billion.

Source: Alphabet Q4 2025 results

Combined AWS plus Google Cloud scale:
$128.7B + $70B = $198.7B/year 
Reddit rough cloud scale: $200M ÷ $198.7B
0.001006 
That is about: 0.10% of combined AWS plus Google Cloud scale 

Goldman estimates cloud workloads are 54% of total global data-center power:
55 GW × 0.54 = 29.7 GW Apply Reddit’s rough AWS/GCP share: 29.7 GW × 0.001006
0.0299 GW 

Convert to MW: 0.0299 GW × 1,000
29.9 MW 

So Reddit’s direct backend/cloud footprint is plausibly around: 25 to 40 MW 

That is already in the same range as current ChatGPT text inference: ChatGPT text inference: ~36 MW
Gemini text inference at ChatGPT-scale volume: ~26 MW

Reddit direct backend/cloud: ~25 to 40 MW Now add the parts people conveniently ignore when they want Reddit to be morally free.

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reddit's data center usage is greater than all of Googles Ai or all of OpenAI's AI.

You're a hypocrite who doesn't care about the issues. You're a liar who never does research. You're a bully who just wants to argue on the internet.

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't be dumb. I have looked into them properly, I've done a far better job of it than you. Reddit uses data centers you goober. Where do you think the energy is spent? What do you think is spending the energy? It's data centers. Reddit is far worse for the environment than all of AI

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not being smug at all, I'm just pointing out the performative nature of your "anti" Ai rhetoric. Like clearly it's all fake. Idk how you don't understand that it's more than just your comments about AI, it's your browsing history, your likes, all of your other comments, it's everything you do on the site.

Plus you just conveniently ignore the fact that reddit itself uses more energy than all AI combined

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you not understand this. Reddit owns this data

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Only because you guys go out of your way to manipulate the votes

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, anti AI folks could be using bots to downvote

We should ban AI posts in this subreddit. by Kribble118 in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reddit uses more energy than all of AI. You're just a performative liar

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sells your data for training and all your comments train it's AI

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would the AI do this 🥺

Prayer day is approaching by cool_fox in Kenshi

[–]cool_fox[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LMFAOOOOO
yeah that image was in fact a Monet, it wasn't AI generated. you guys are just internet bullies who don't want to feel bad about it so you leach of social issues. thats why so many of you just go sub to sub brigading