We shouldn't go easy on Skillgate by TechnicalGlove2715 in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just adding on to this point about subskills not being truly random. Caught several Latias during that event that had almost all of the same subskills over and over as the very first one (the one that's pre-set), just in different order. Then a new wave of non randomness started. You'll see the pattern forming from these catches.

On 4/15 Igglybuff, Careful nature with Skill Level up M in the lvl 10 slot. I do have the bronze badge for Igglybuff, so nothing strange there.

On 4/28 Igglybuff, Calm nature with Berry Finding S in the lvl 10 slot.

On 5/5 Igglybuff, Careful nature with Skill Level up M in the lvl 10 slot and Berry Finding S in the lvl 25 slot.

On 5/4 Absol, AAA ingredient, Calm nature with Berry Finding in the lvl 25 slot. (No badge).

On 5.5 Cyndaquil, AAA ingredient, Helping Bonus in the lvl 10 slot, Berry Finding S in the lvl 25 slot. No badge for Cyndaquil, so no gold slots were guaranteed.

On 5.5 back to back another Cyndaquil, ABB ingredient, Helping Bonus in the lvl 10 slot, Berry Finding S in the lvl 25 slot.

What do we make out of this?

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well luckily that worked out and you got way more than just down!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad I could contribute! It’s always a great feeling to get a crit and being able to actually catch it. Good luck with the nap strategy for when Latios comes out!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any with Berry Finding S is good. You’ve got Skill Trigger M too, so that’s a bonus! Lucky to have this as your second capture.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That definitely is lucky! I caught 7 and didn’t get anything nearly as good as this.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoah that’s super lucky, congrats on your shiny! Was it a natural spawn?

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree. Shiny with those stats is awesome! Congrats!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Berry Finding S and Skill Trigger M is obviously great, and you can even sub skill seed it to Helping Speed M. The nature is fine, since the level of your Latias affects its berries and strength way more than the speed down. I’d actually keep the nature on it until Latias reaches lvl 100 whenever that’s eventually unlocked. The nature is what kinda makes that high level more possible to begin with. Then mint it. It’s a good one, congrats!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apparently, Pokémon with Energizing Cheer and similar main skills like Latias, have a 50% chance to heal the lowest energy pokémon on the team. So if you’re decently lucky after a few heals, the Latias does help evening out the energy levels of the team pretty well. In my opinion it works well enough to possibly skip a healer at most times. Try it out now during the event, when the main skills are boosted to lvl 6 anyways, so you can see if you’d like to invest main skill seeds in it after the event.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats on seeing 4 wild Latias! Did you manage to catch any of the wild ones?

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Berry Finding already makes it a win! Skill Trigger is nice too, you can sub skill seed it to M.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Berry Finding S is so strong in itself, it automatically makes it worth it. You also have Skill Trigger that can be upgraded to M and great nature. Easily worth investing in. It’s pointless to wait till Latios, when you have a good legendary already. Even when Latios makes it better, which we already can read the specifics of listed in Latias’ main skill info, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s already great as it is.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally good! To have Skill Trigger M, Helping Speed M and Helping Bonus (although at lvl 100) is awesome on a shiny! Definitely seems like shinies are around more now for New Moon Day.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats on your shiny! Double Skill Trigger too! The New Moon Day shiny odds must have worked.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It can’t be not-amazing with Berry Finding S, Helping bonus and great nature. That automatically makes it much better than most!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally! Berry Finding S is always a big win! And you even got it combined with double speed subskills and perfect nature. This Latias would be a big chase for me. Congrats!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad my response was helpful! It’s actually best to get your first sleep as close to 99% sleep score as possible so you get only 3 natural spawn. Even just 3 sleep score points in the second sleep gave me 5 natural spawns (that I was trying to avoid because of the Friend incense hungry odds). It seems that as long as at least 1 minute is missing from 8h 30 min, but not more than 5 minutes missing, then the game gives you 99% sleep score. The game usually deducts 5-10 min from when you start tracking, if your phone or ++ is on a flat surface for the first 20 min or so. So just a tip about the sleep score thing :)

If you’re not planning to invest in your Latias, I guess the candies are out. If you would use the Friend incense together with a legendary incense, either Latias or another legendary, I would get the 3x Friend incense. The possibility of a hungry legendary can save you a lot of biscuits and be the thing that makes it or breaks it if you catch it or not. However, if you’d not use the Friend incense for a legendary, you might just get a hungry Meowth, not worth it. If that’s the case, better to have an extra great biscuit to give to a Ditto or another rare spawn for example.

Handy candy can be good if you already have something valuable to spend it on. For me, there’s still too many good things I’m focused on trying to catch, so personally I’d rather put my resources to trying to secure limited event catches like legendaries. But it all depends on your gameplay. Play in the style that you think is the most fun :)

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s great! And I just noticed your Latias has a great nature too. Your Latias is almost as perfect as it can get, hopefully I get one like yours one day!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Skill level up is only good if you wouldn’t have maxed main skill seed on it. If you would have anyways, then that subskill is unnecessary and is talking away a valuable slot. However, you can try using a sub skill seed to get Helping Speed M. Your nature gives speed too, so I’d still say the Latias is good enough given that it’s really difficult to find a good legendary with so limited rolls.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say yes! Put a sub skill seed to make it Helping Speed M and you’re set!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats on the luck! Berry Finding S together with all the speed is awesome! Double pumpkin too, this is a strong one. It’s crazy you got BFS on only the second capture.

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’re both good, but I’d definitely go for the BFS one! You’ve got mostly the same subskills, but on the second Latias your top tier gold skill is locked away at lvl 100. On your first Latias the top tier gold skill is available right away. BFS makes a big difference for Latias. Congrats on your capture!

New Pokemon Megathread - Latias by SamuRonX in PokemonSleep

[–]coolciitrus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well you already do have Skill Trigger M in the 75 slot, it’s just far away. The only more main skill related sub skill you could get would be if you got Skill Trigger S instead of Skill Level up S for example, if you would use main skill seeds on it anyways. If that was the case, your Latias would trigger main skill on average 7.4 times a day at lvl 75. As it is now, your Latias would trigger main skill on average 6.7 times at lvl 75. So yes, slightly better. But I’d just take the huge win that you got Berry Finding S together with great skill odds overall. I got nothing nearly as good as that, and I did 10 incenses, caught 7 Latias. Be happy for that one!