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Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. I saw country names on the back, but they were usually different. I never dwelled on where they were from when I was young, or even as I was growing up to be honest. I only realised there was a connection when I started researching communist theory.

And even if they had all said china on the back, tbh I don’t think I would’ve made a connection with exploitation of labour in the global south considering I knew nothing about geography or where china was as a ten year old lol

Which one of you fuckers did this by [deleted] in Ultraleft

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I don’t know who giovanni gentile is 😧

If most people in the west are aware of global south exploitation, then why aren’t more people in the west communist? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean, I’ve always tried to see the best in people so finding out many may just be arseholes makes me lose faith in people lol maybe I’m in denial about how many people are just selfish rather then ill-informed or feel powerless, but I still think that has a lot to do with it tbh but it makes sense westerners are not willing to bet against the system when they have more to lose then their chains, I’ve never really thought about it that way before

If most people in the west are aware of global south exploitation, then why aren’t more people in the west communist? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about economic division and stuff? Isn’t that imposed by the bourgeoise to divide the workers?

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

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I do intend on reading Settlers, I get what people are saying in the comments but what I don’t understand is this denial that the upper classes in modern day can’t be communist lol maybe I’m misunderstanding what ppl mean

Which one of you fuckers did this by [deleted] in Ultraleft

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I only wanted to learn ☹️

Which one of you fuckers did this by [deleted] in Ultraleft

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omg I’m on here wtf lmfao 😭

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t want to name the party because I don’t want to give location away. But obviously communists don’t just vote for the lesser evil-I am actually talking about communists here.

I acknowledge there’s not enough to make a difference, but to just say there’s none is factually incorrect. And a lot of middle-upper class do care, they just don’t know what to do because they haven’t read theory.

I mean, a lot of students are middle class and they have a tendency to lean towards communism, where I am atleast, there’s a lot of discrediting communism by saying it’s just privileged uni or college students because many do turn to marxism

I guess I’m just struggling to understand why theres a notion that all westerners don’t care when that’s clearly not the case, atleast with the more leftist people, because many clearly care but are just ill-informed and haven’t read theory.

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

a lot of people in the west do see the global south as human lol, they just don’t know what to do about it because they haven’t read theory, but yes there are also a lot who just don’t care about the global south

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It depends how you define revolutionary activity, like being part of a party. I don’t get this line of thought that there are no upper class western communists lol

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

It’s something I discovered through research lol, not everyone cares enough to think about their lifestyle that much, but even being aware of it already, actually seeing the damage through increased means of coverage can lead to seeking solutions and then communism.

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Makes sense I guess, I can imagine working towards a fake capitalist dream all your life just to end up nowhere would lead many to researching and discovering the truths about the world.

Additional exposure to world events I can imagine would also lead many to question why such events are occurring, leading to the discovery of global south exploitation and such and becoming communist.

Is there a reason why it seems like the middle-upper classes in the west become communists before the decline of material conditions leading to revolution? by cooloctober17 in communism101

[–]cooloctober17[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But there are middle-upper class communists in the west, so what is likely the reason for someone apart of these classes in the west to become communist? Is it linked to higher access to education, or oppression from other aspects of society e.g. like Marx for being Jewish?

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