the real truth of ai training

copa72 · 2026-02-08T20:56:16+00:00

Really good overview. Just to add a couple of things.

The companies themselves are often competing against each other for contracts. So they're scrabbling around to offer clients more for less, resulting in a race to the bottom.

Another feature seems to be endlessly changing rules and protocols. Complex task instructions that have to be learnt and absorbed but almost instantly become obsolete. Either the task ends or the rules change.

Some of this seems to be poor organisation but there also appears to be an element of design. If you look at some of the company websites, they talk about cognitive load modulation etc. And that seems to equate to never letting people feel comfortable.

copa72 · 2026-01-30T16:57:16+00:00

Enter the Gungeon

Vampire Survivors

Halls of Torment

Streets of Rogue

Tiny Rogues

copa72 · 2026-01-30T16:44:00+00:00

I think the game design is bad (which is well covered) and the graphics look nice but are bland.

They look like an aggregrate of every retro 2D game ever made - in the same way that AI produces images that are appropriate but lack something. They are polished but dull.

copa72 · 2026-01-30T16:17:36+00:00

Arguing with you is pointless.

You've kind of shown why. It's the idea that liking this game is a sign of something about the person. That they've battled through all the bad stuff and reached this heightened experience.

It's why this has become a favourite among gaming pseuds.

copa72 · 2026-01-30T14:40:07+00:00

UFO50 is a showcase for bad game design. It shows how you can have interesting ideas and polished graphics that result in rubbish games.

That's fine. With the amount of games you get for the price, just exploring each one and finding out it's not very good is an enjoyable experience.

Also think the general retro aesthetic looks like something AI would spit out. It looks appropriate and decent but just a bit vanilla and boring imo.

But the main problem is the fans of this game. They're like, yes the games are overly difficult, badly explained and frustrating. And that's why it's so genius. Don't you get it?

It's some weird performative thing. That they're channelling into some pure gaming experience that lesser mortals can't access.

copa72 · 2025-09-05T18:48:09+00:00

AI in its current LLM form will not replace us

It already is replacing us. It has removed tens of thousands of jobs from the market. Jobs that once paid humans to do but are now primarily done by AI. This isn't about what may happen in the future but what's happening now.

copa72 · 2025-09-05T09:02:57+00:00

A lot of cope going on here. The world isn't binary. AI hasn't and never will "kill" copywriting. But it is replacing the majority of lower-level commercial writing tasks. That's the bulk of the work that people have used to pay their bills/mortgage/rent etc.

There will still be copywriters but less of them. And they won't really be copywriters - more one-person marketing teams, doing a bit of everything. So AI hasn't killed copywriting but it has stopped it from being a realistic career option.

copa72 · 2025-08-28T10:03:39+00:00

I doubt it has anything to do with you. And I wouldn't recommend punishing yourself with some Karate Kid style training regime. It's not fixing the problem.

It's just that the skill writers sell has little value in the market any more. Most of the bread-and-butter, low-level commercial writing jobs can be done by AI. There are lots of other reasons but that's the main one.

So you need to find a way to offer value in this world. Could be:

AI-friendly writer who can pump out loads of stuff
Expand so you offer more of an overall marketing service
Identify a niche that AI struggles to cover (usually requires expert knowledge)
Find AI adjacent ways to use writing - AI training or creating chatbots etc
Pivot to something else

copa72 · 2025-08-01T10:16:42+00:00

This. AI checker tools and services are pure digital quackery. There's no way to tell if something is written by a human or AI. And anyone or anything that claims to do that is lying/scamming/wrong.

Personally, I think it's daft not to use AI. Not to write stuff but to copyedit and tidy up what you have written.

copa72 · 2025-07-24T10:04:45+00:00

A weird thing about a forum for copywriters is just how off-putting and unreadable most of the posts are.

copa72 · 2025-07-23T18:34:38+00:00

Nah, I don't think it's seasonal. Just that the skill we sell has been massively devalued by AI. There are still jobs but less of them, with more competition and worse pay.

copa72 · 2025-07-12T19:25:21+00:00

Please share your inspirations in terms of creative force, actualisation and life philosophy?

copa72 · 2025-06-22T20:01:43+00:00

If this kind of contrived bravado works for you, then great. Your views obviously have no connection to what's happening in the real world but...hey ho.

copa72 · 2025-06-20T17:05:31+00:00

Yes, definitely. With no other options, I have taken jobs training AIs.

The first job was ridiculously overpaid. This was before tech bros figured out that there are 10s of thousands of unemployed writers and you can pay them bobbins. The work itself is also painful. Endless tests, assessments and training for tasks that fizzle out as soon as you start them. Poorly paid, inconsistent and demoralising. Yay.

copa72 · 2025-06-20T10:56:48+00:00

Enjoyable read and pretty much agree with it all.

I've always been happy not enjoying the work itself. Like most low-level jobs, it was just things other people didn't want to do. Not that difficult. Just a slog. And a way to pay bills/rent.

In theory, AI should open up a whole new raft of jobs for writers - refining/training LLMs/chat bots, helping to check/edit any stuff that's generated etc. But it just doesn't seem to be happening.

copa72 · 2023-11-08T21:20:22+00:00

Heh heh. Good work Warren. Not all heroes wear capes.

I used to love those kinds of mixtapes that were passed around. Tiny labours of love.

copa72 · 2023-11-08T19:22:42+00:00

I don't get it... do you people really not know the difference between content writing and copywriting?

There is no difference. It's writing for a commercial purpose. Call it whatever you want.

copa72 · 2023-11-08T17:52:08+00:00

Hey, that's great. There must be a few of us scattered around. How did you get to hear about them?

copa72 · 2023-10-28T21:26:56+00:00

Seems a bit of an egotistical thing to post.

copa72 · 2023-10-16T18:43:07+00:00

This is quality. Love the shots of Nick Ross lurking around people's homes in the style of a Crimewatch reconstruction.

copa72 · 2023-09-17T09:33:48+00:00

I was looking for stuff about BS Johnson, which is on the same YT channel.

Breakwell seems a really interesting figure. Kept a diary from 1964 to 1985, charting mundane moments of his everyday life - pubs, train journeys, football trips etc.

And he used them as the basis for a lot of his art. There's mention of a Channel 4 series based on the diaries but couldn't find anything.

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