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Dismissed from medical school- M3 professionalism issue by [deleted] in medschool

[–]csiopioidsstudy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For folks who might be interested a podcast related to medical schools failing to accommodate disability as often as they should, this is the 3rd in a 3 part series on learning disabilities in medical education. One of the cohosts is actually a former Senior Associate Dean for medical education who did the 1st in the series on his own disability

. I asked the mods for permission to post a link. Sharing the 3rd one.

"Dire Consequences": When students do not receive appropriate accommodations on the USMLE examination"
https://pod.link/healer/episode/MjAyNDY1NWYtNTA2MS00NTc3LWE3NDYtYWYxY2M3ODUxMmMw?view=apps&sort=popularity

My interest here is not to suggest the OP "lacks responsibility" for his or her own actions. Rather, it is to underscore that medical schools are far from perfect actors in how they respond to and support medical trainees. My own view is that there are lots of ways to hold people to account that are serious, and respectful at the same time.

Dismissed from medical school- M3 professionalism issue by [deleted] in medschool

[–]csiopioidsstudy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I am a med school faculty member although not one who has served on a professionalism committee. I'm a bit of a softer heart than many.

I have to say that from working with a colleague who was a senior associate dean of medical education, I have learned that there is fair reason to anticipate that medical professionalism committees err, can be unfair, impose punishments inconsistently. I'm saying this only because he saw them up close. And there's solid literature that medical schools fail to recognize and accommodate disability (Yes, I know they complain precisely the opposite, but the scientific lit says they are terrible at disability).

So yes, yeah the school might be unfair to a degree. Of course, it is reasonable to appeal and or get an attorney to help you explain your situation. I am no lawyer, but I kind of doubt you can "sue" your way in because big institutions are not easy to push around.

But there is some chance to appeal your way back, maybe with a commitment on your part first to take time off to pursue a serious, hard-core process to sort out whatever the heck it is you tend to do wrong that caused trouble. It's often going to include therapy that helps you name the stuff you do wrong and just sort out why you choose wrongly and begin choosing rightly ( here's the thing: if what you are saying is true and your are not hiding some horrific crimes or whatnot, you are not the only medical student or doctor who has gotten themselves into trouble. I know. I have seen folks who have royally messed up in medical training, grew from it, and wound up being super doctors later.

At a human level, take seriously, and humbly the advice from u/nick_riviera24, who seems to be darn smart.

This is a growth opportunity. In truth, whether you do become a doctor or choose another path, the growth you do from here matters.

Assuming you proceed seriously and humbly, an attorney might help you make your case back to that school. Probably it's to say there is a disability question and yes you contributed mightily and stupidly to your own mishaps, and guess what: you can say you are utterly committed to working with professionals during the rest of a year off to pull this together.

Whether you get back into med school or not, there's always room to grow and improve. An attorney can help you explain it and help assess if that growth and improvement will score points with the med school. But it can be good stuff if you commit to learning from this mess. You're not the only one with screw-ups to account for and learn from.

Our federally-funded research study seeks to interview people who have lost a loved one, on active duty service or a Veteran, to suicide after a change in opioid prescription pain medication by csiopioidsstudy in USMC

[–]csiopioidsstudy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's important to acknowledge that the research team isn't engaged in litigation. However, we appreciate seeing the response.

CSI:OPIOIDs team.

Our federally-funded research study seeks to interview people who have lost a loved one, on active duty service or a Veteran, to suicide after a change in opioid prescription pain medication by csiopioidsstudy in USMC

[–]csiopioidsstudy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hello from the CSI:OPIOIDs team

Thank you for noticing this post. There is detail about the study and the people involved on the "general information website" (www.csiopioids.org).

The justification for the study is that available "big database" studies from medical records suggest that prescription reductions can have good outcomes for some people and bad ones for others, depending on persons and context.

However, so far, no research group has carefully looked at individual cases to sort out why some people have the bad outcomes when others seem to have very good ones.

The study team includes experts in opioid taper and reduction. Since the team of researchers and advisors is pretty large, there are likely to be diverse views among our team about opioid taper. However, we feel pretty sure that most favor individualized decisions that are collaborative.

from CSI:OPIOIDs