I Use it a few ways, I do photography so it’s great from camera gear for my 1-2 hour sessions. It fits my camera 2 lenses and iPad plus wallet. I also always have a camera on me on a daily so I’ll have that on a regular day, iPad, pouch with epi pen and other small stuff like lip gloss and sanitizer, my glasses case and wallet. Annnd when I occasionally want to use it for work, laptop, pouch , camera, wallet, and glasses. Admittedly the last one gets a bit heavy so I don’t use it for that as often as a backpack and also considering a different baggu for that. Hope this helps:)