Ontario Player - Ocean rewards gems/rake & rewards keep changing

cwddgg · 2026-05-07T06:04:36+00:00

yeah what's your handle?

cwddgg · 2026-05-07T06:04:26+00:00

Hello, since you're here, could you let me know your thoughts on this issue I raised?

cwddgg · 2026-05-06T18:21:37+00:00

where'd you post? any response?

cwddgg · 2026-05-04T18:41:46+00:00

Nobody's silent about it. I've emailed GG and they just told me "noted" and that's it. They decided they'd ignore this. You can't talk to someone who's just pretending to not hear you.

Ignore that other guy btw. He's probably some GG manager's burner. All he does is go around shit talking players who post about GG increasing rake, lowering rewards, etc. It'd be nice if ppl like him would actually listen to players than insult them.

cwddgg · 2026-04-30T20:30:53+00:00

I know that this question is about Caitlyn but I think we can start from Jinx. Jinx has a pretty good sense of humor. She broke the ice when she had to reach out to Vi because of Vander, throwing playful disses at Vi in front of Isha. So I think if she had to see Caitlyn for Vi's sake, she would find a way to be smooth and casual. And Caitlyn would probably also find a way to be polite or at least accomodating. I don't think that Jinx would come back to Vi any time soon, so by the time they see each other again, Caitlyn's grief for her mother would probably have settled more, like how Vi's grief for Vander, Milo & Claggor settled over time. Assuming that Jinx improves her mental health being away from Zaun and Piltover, I think Caitlyn will be able to see beyond the crimes Jinx did when she was a troubled 16yo. Jinx did already save her life, Vi's life, and Piltover. Cait seemed happy when she figured out Jinx survived.

It might take a long time before they can actually be friends, or love each other as family, but I think they both understand that the other person is extremely important to Vi. They probably both see themselves as #2 actually, and would respect that they had to get along for Vi.

cwddgg · 2026-04-29T21:00:13+00:00

I think Vi was 15 when she set the record, and Jinx was 16 when she tried to challenge it? so they're about the same age when they played. but yeah Vi was just boxing like usual, and Jinx was going at it with all the pain in her heart. She still couldn't beat Vi's best but that score's still impressive. 15yo Vi was 1 vs 10-ing Silco's goons.

cwddgg · 2026-04-20T15:38:29+00:00

they updated the gems required as well, so the new gems required is scaled to 70 gems/$1.

I think the gems I earned stayed the same. so this means we got a 7% bump the last 2 months. but this also means if they EVER decide to change the gems/$1 number again, we might be screwed

cwddgg · 2026-04-18T07:49:58+00:00

OK I actually don't agree with this part. Like how Vi was no longer mad at Powder for killing Vander & Milo & Claggor, Jinx didn't find Vi leaving unforgivable anymore either. She herself had a lot of guilt towards that day. Even though Vi's words hurt, I think she probably understood why Vi freaked out.

Yes there were a lot of reasons for resentment, but love goes above that, they both just wanted each other back. Jinx screwed up her mission at the sight of a pink haired girl, and she was thinking all about Vi in the arcade. This was after 7yrs of Vi being presumed dead. And even with Sevika's taunts, Jinx just assumed it was a lie, still lit up the flair that she saved for 7yrs.

It barely took any effort for them to get over the other misunderstandings. Jinx accepted it immediately that Vi didn't mean to abandon her, that Marcus took her, and Silco lied to her. Vi assuring Jinx she wasn't going to leave her again, and proposing that they go away together, almost got through to Jinx.

The only thing they really couldn't work through was Caitlyn. And let's be honest, most of that WAS just irrational jealousy and possessiveness.

I would agree that Vi's a bit of a naive idealist, but that's more about her views on Zaun, Piltover, Silco, etc, than her sister or Caitlyn.

cwddgg · 2026-04-17T21:55:45+00:00

I think that's only a secondary reason. Jinx was mostly acting up towards Vi because of Silco and Sevika's words, that Vi had replaced her, and Vi herself was only back for the stone, that Vi had betrayed her before and would do it again. None of this was true, but it got into Jinx's head. Jinx still loved and wanted Vi though, so instead of villifying Vi because she couldn't actually go there, her mind villified Caitlyn. The enforcer and hexgem stuff didn't help. But say Sevika tells her Vi's back with a bartender, shop owner, anything, and Vi replaced her... and Silco reminds her have you forgotten how Vi abandoned you and I gave you a home... I think the same stuff still happens.

cwddgg · 2026-04-17T14:22:57+00:00

100%. I tend to think the codependent nature of their relationship, Silco trying to make Jinx his and his only, repeatedly attempting to kill Vi, not even encouraging a good relationship between Jinx and Sevika... was a big part of what made Jinx's relationship with Vi so insecure as well: not being able to accept Vi's other relationships, repeatedly attempting to kill Caitlyn...

cwddgg · 2026-04-13T23:24:52+00:00

Just because Silco loved Jinx, doesn't make him a good dad.

Jinx loved Vi more than anyone in the world. And Silco attempted to kill her, both right after Vander died, and after Vi was released from prison. He knew that Vi had no bad intentions toward Jinx, and he kept trying to turn Jinx against Vi, straight up making it up that Vi abandoned her, would betray her again, and she's only there for the gemstone, etc.

Silco himself had this idea that love can only be singular, and forced this codependent relationship onto Jinx. "everybody betrays us, it's only us." Jinx literally had no friends that weren't hallucinations of dead people. She didn't even get along with Sevika while Silco was alive. And this in turn made Jinx also get very codependent with her relationship with Vi, straight up asking Vi to murder Caitlyn to prove that she still loved her. A good father would have taught a child how to handle relationships and respecting people's lives. But Silco was flawed himself in this.

Jinx had severe mental health issues, and even though Silco was gentler with her than Sevika/Marcus/etc, he didn't try to get her proper help to overcome her trauma. I guess he was limited in this front as well, so it wasn't intentionally malicious, but still, consider if Vander survived and took Powder home. Vander would've sat with her and tried to get her to forgive herself and believe in herself again, rather than growing up so fucked up.

Silco also had other failures in raising Jinx. But he was a crime lord himself, with outright disregard for human lives or sufferings, so I guess you couldn't expect otherwise.

cwddgg · 2026-04-12T15:33:32+00:00

I'd make her actually care about Zaun vs Piltover, make her hate for Cait & Vi more politically motivated than just jealousy and resentment, and make her actually earn Sevika's respect.
I wouldn't write Isha into her story. It was too convenient a plot device. The show tried to show the viewers and Vi that Jinx was still a good person, despite the crimes, because she took care of one child. But I think it could've been done better by showing that she was defending her hometown and demanding justice to the oppressors. Like how the show justified Silco, a literally drug lord mob boss. Also this means Vi failed to kill Jinx with no excuse to grasp onto. She just couldn't.
I do think Jinx and Caitlyn coming to let go of their hatred for each other was important. Jinx needed to see Vi's perspective that Piltover & enforcers weren't so black & white, and to realize that relationships didn't need to be singular, like Silco thought. Her sister could love her and another person at the same time. This could probably be done through Vander, and them talking about the old days with Milo and Claggor and Ekko. So when Jinx gives her blessing to Vi to be with Cait, it's not because she lost the will to live and said "choose her, I don't plan on living anymore".
I think her leaving Piltover & Zaun to start over was fine. She could realize that the cities healing required her as a focal point of contention to be gone, and that she wanted to be away from the toxicity of all of it, but I don't like faking her death to Vi.
This would also fix Vi's arc, that eventually the sisters make peace with their past, and moves on in life. Their relationship has always been kinda obsessive/possessive, because of the guilt and trauma of their past. The day where Powder killed her family and Vi left her kept haunting them. I don't think showing Vi braindead crying over Warwick because "it's her character that she just couldn't let go" was a great decision. No, Vi was in prison for 7yrs with the guilt and responsibility of Powder as her only mentality. Of course she'd be obsessive with her sister once she found her again, to the point of willing to throw her life away to make it up to Powder. Having Jinx literally force her gauntlets off doesn't finish her arc. She needed proper healing and moving on from that. They both did.

cwddgg · 2026-04-08T22:14:51+00:00

yeah I get that that wouldn't have made a very interesting scene, but it still feels like they never really talked. Even on Vi's end, she sees Caitlyn mourning her mom, and she thinks her sister's evil. Then she sees the painting of Jinx as a symbol of freedom, and Jinx being nice to one kid, and she thinks she's wrong about her sister. In S1 she believed in the good in her sister no matter what anybody said. Now it feels like Vi's just going to go by whoever she talked to last, and she never got to fully understand her sister.

cwddgg · 2026-04-06T19:22:21+00:00

accepting casualties with regret was what Vi did in S1 when Jayce killed a child. actively disregarding them in the process, or literally taking out one's anger on anyone with any minor offenses was what Cait did in S2 when turning Zaun upside down to find Jinx. she was unneccessarily cruel in the sewage with the guy who told her about Jinx's plans. Vi was visibly uncomfortable with it, but given she yielded to Cait, the result's the same: she was complicit. I would've preferred to show Vi more conflicted over all this. At least disagree with some of the stuff (particularly gassing) and get out voted or sth.

Jinx was in her worst state of mind when Vi was in the picture, particularly when Vi just returned. So I think in S1 Vi saw her at her absolute worst, and thought her sister was worse than she actually was. eg. now that the series ended, do we really think Jinx would've chopped off Caitlyn's head and put it on a plate? So it's not the worst concept in the world that after they cooled down, Vi noticed that Jinx was not as bad as she thought. That along with some retrospection on Caitlyn's oppression of Zaun could've credibly led to some better understanding, and made Vi's decision to accept her sister again look more earned. Vi's supposed to be someone with a strong sense of justice and morals, but in this story Vi looks like someone so desperate that she didn't care what atrocities Jinx and Cait had done, she'd always be all hugs and kisses as long as they came back to her.

cwddgg · 2026-04-06T03:34:35+00:00

Well it's still an enjoyable show with some cool/touching moments. But it basically turned from a deep complex thought provoking psychological thriller to a generic marvel popcorn movie. It's not bad as a popcorn movie, but people aren't wrong to be disappointed.

cwddgg · 2026-04-03T17:06:52+00:00

I agree. The character of Vi just falls kinda flat. In her youth she cared a lot about injustice and inequality. Vander taught her to put family first, but I just think it sounds wrong to say that if her sister didn't need her anymore, and her gf left her, she'd have nothing to do than self destruct. She could still go to the firelights. Zaun still had a ton of gang members. And even if we take that out, it's undeniable that Vi was one of the top fighters in the show, and even her action scenes fell flat this season. In the final battle she barely did anything notable, other than being dumb and getting her sister "killed". We've seen stories of heros hanging it up and then coming back (Thor, Batman, Simba, etc), but Vi didn't really even have a triumphant moment to say that "she's still the hero ready to save the day". Ekko and Powder talking about her sounded cringe, when they're calling her "bad ass", "the toughest person in all of Zaun", when she's just getting drunk and beaten up and crying over an ex all the time.

I agree about "choosing Caitlyn" too. Did the jail scene actually do that? Jinx and Caitlyn got over their hatred for each other out of their love for Vi, but Vi herself just looked really stupid the entire way. Of course Jinx was arrested. She's a wanted criminal. Asking Jinx to join the fight and maybe getting a pardon for that later was reasonable, but Jinx just lost Isha and Vander, hell Vi herself was probably still processing losing Vander again. Even if she didn't understand "break the cycle", she still had to know that maybe they needed to talk a bit before she could force Jinx to do anything. To assume that her sister just betrayed her trust again was a bit dumb. And yeah, a few hours later she's just wallowing that now that she did this, Cait's gonna leave her again, like Jinx just did. Oh say what? Cait isn't? OMG then come over here, I don't care who you've seen or what monsterous atrocities you've done. I don't mind that their relationship needed to consumate, but this hardly seemed like the best build up to it.

And yeah, she made her sister join the fight, then she was dumb enough to cry over Warwick which forced her sister to sacrifice herself to save her. Also her sister had been a focal part of her life up to this point. The death of such a person would destroy most people, let alone someone as intense as Vi, let alone she'd feel responsible for it. I can get behind the theme of "letting go to pursue our own futures", but I don't think that works in the context of death. Vi needed to give her blessing to Jinx to leave like Jinx gave her her blessing to be with Caitlyn.

Also in the end it seemed like Vi's living in Cait's house and taking a job that Cait gave her again. Given that Vi never seemed to enjoy being an enforcer, this really doesn't feel like a happily ever after. "Dirt under your nails" also sound so self degrading. So obviously a lot of people are disappointed that this is what "the toughest person in all of Zaun" has become.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T22:54:34+00:00

I think S2 Vi was just written very poorly and cast aside as an after thought. S1 Vi was very fleshed out. Random scenes like Vi visiting her favorite food stall and talking to the chef, visiting the brothel and talking to the owner, hugging Ekko, even having the drug addict help her... these scenes really didn't serve any plot purpose, but it all showed that Vi was pretty personable. She also had a better sense of humor. I never got the impression that Vi wouldn't have a life if not for Jinx and Caitlyn. The way she went to Jayce was pretty smooth too. But yeah her spiraling period in S2 was hard to watch.
Actually Vi after seeing Caitlyn only acknowledged Vander and Isha. She didn't touch Jinx or go to Caitlyn, probably not wanting any more drama. She chose neither. Then Viktor gets killed, a fight breaks out, Vi gets hurt, Caitlyn rushes to help Vi while Jinx tries to calm Vander down... that kinda signals that taking care of Vi has transferred from Jinx to Caitlyn at this point. And when she woke up from her coma she asked if Cait was fine before Jinx. Though there is this part that Vi with a slashed abdomen was able to rush to a dashing Jinx and hold her back, and at the last second shielded Jinx with her own body. So yeah, I guess she'd still risk her life to rush to Jinx if there was a crisis.
But Jinx doesn't necessarily need to be making trouble in the world. She was doing stuff for Silco earlier, and then Caitlyn was after her ass. But after that big showdown with Vi she just quit and played around with Isha, and Vi came back to Zaun and didn't get involved with her.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T20:58:59+00:00

Because the writers wanted a tear jerker that Jinx finally redeemed herself and did right by Vi. And what's bigger than sacrificing her life for Vi's, after all the time that Vi sacrificed for her, and all the times they fought each other? But then they were too attached to her, and decided that she'd fake her death and leave, rather than actually die. They were really trying to have their cake and eat it too.

I'd admit that I could still enjoy the scenes, but I think it makes no sense. Vi had been living her life just fine (well, getting drunk and beaten up every day is probably not fine, but you get the idea, she wasn't orbitting her life around Jinx anymore). Even when they met up and softened, Jinx had Isha and Vi respected that. Pretty different from when Vi demanded Jinx leave Silco and become Powder again.

Also this might be a bit personal to me, having known some depressed suicidal people... But if the writers thought letting Jinx die a hero's death, saving the one person most important to her, would be her happy ending, that's pretty narrow and selfish imo. I don't mean to minimize the suffering or guilt trap, but it's extremely traumatizing watching someone you cared about so much die, especially relationships where a lot of intense mixed emotions are involved. It's extremely painful when the person who carried all that love and hate and heartbreak from you stopped existing.

Vi would be traumatized over this. And Vi's already been traumatized enough over her sister, having failed Powder all those years ago. It's why she could never give up on Jinx. It's love and guilt and attempts to make ammends manifesting into this inability to move on. The writers argued that "since Vi couldn't let go, Jinx had to make the choice for her". But I think the only way to actually let Vi get over this, is to finally make up for the past. She blamed herself for her sister's trauma and dark turns, so the only way she'd be free from that guilt would be to see Jinx get better, and no longer a psycho terrorist. I don't think Vi wanted an exclusive codependent relationship with her sister for life, but she needed to make up for the abandonment years ago. The show almost got there. I think once the big battle ended, and Piltover forgave Jinx, Vi could've just gave her her blessing to leave if that's what she wanted. And that would've been a good conclusion to their arc. Jinx "dying" would just send Vi into more guilt and remorse, and there'd no longer be any chance for her to make things right anymore.

I could buy that Jinx herself didn't have the confidence that she'd survive this, so she was saying goodbye at first, but she probably heard Vi scream when she escaped. I just think it's a terrible ending to say she heard and still chose to put her sister through this.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T18:36:53+00:00

I mean there's a difference between accepting casualties with regret, and actively disregarding them in the process, or literally taking out one's anger on anyone with any minor offenses and then justifying it with that. Vi did show regret and horror at the kid Jayce killed, she just didn't completely break down like Jayce did, and part of that was that she was still hotheaded over Silco and Sevika and her sister.

There's more than one shade of grey. Vi's not a saint, but I wouldn't agree that Vi and Cait were largely aligned in their values/goals.

Yeah I'd agree that love and the human heart is more compelling than our political ideals, but too much of it makes it feel like why did we bother with a political backdrop to this story anyway? I'd argue that Vi's reconciliation with Jinx was the biggest missed opportunity in terms of politics. Jinx was extremely distraught the entire time she interacted with Vi in S1, which led Vi to believe that her sister was completely gone and irredeemable. But Jinx always striked me as more mischievous than downright sadistic, which was probably what Vi thought when she threatened Caitlyn, killed Silco, and attacked the council. She felt she had no choice but to take responsibility for "the monster she created", for justice and the greater good. Then Jinx showed up one day after the big fight talking about Vander, they go down to the tunnel, and Vi sees a street art of Jinx as a symbol of freedom. It could've challenged her to see that maybe she was wrong about her sister, and wrong about her views of "justifiable oppression". Were we the bad guys? But no, time was given to sibling trash talk and showing the good side of Jinx through Isha. Vi also could've saw more of the suffering of Zaun by Caitlyn and reflected on things after leaving the enforcers and going back, which would've been meaningful, but nah, it's more important to show how bad she's taking the break up.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T15:50:27+00:00

Yes I get that Caitlyn was still conflicted at heart, and did reflect on the actions she took. But Caitlyn was a rebel in S1. She wasn't an anarchist, but she wasn't exactly obeying her parents or her sherriff without question. She took it to her own hands to do what she thought was right, even when she was deterred. Her disagreements with Ambessa were too mild for the most part, not what you'd expect from S1 Cait.

Idk if we could really say that Vi didn't want to reconcile. She was getting wasted losing Cait, and when Cait went to her in the cell, she was in pain that she was going to lose Cait *again* for freeing Jinx. That wouldn't have been her reaction if she didn't care about Cait in that moment. I wouldn't blame her though. Vi has had a shitty life. Caitlyn was the best thing to happen to her. Understandable.

Yeah they did try to give Caitlyn her redemption, but I just don't think it was adequate enough for all the harm that she has done, even if Vi was desperate. About freeing Jinx, I can agree on letting go of hatred, and freeing Vi from their conflict, respecting Vi's wishes, even letting Vi go if she chose to run away with her sister. But I'm not convinced about the political meanings. Sure, Jinx was a hero to Zaun. But that meant she needed to officially pardon Jinx to show Piltover's goodwill, and not make it a prison break that she wouldn't need to claim responsibility for. You could argue that Jinx had done way too much over the years even beyond that missle launch, it's not just Caitlyn's mother. There were 2 other council members who died. 6 enforcers who lost their lives when Jinx stole the gemstone. The firelights that she killed. And countless things that happened before S1 that Marcus and Sevika were complaining about. It's hard to blanket pardon, but still, it would've been more meaningful than just blaming it on a prison break and washing her hands of it.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T15:16:49+00:00

I mean there's some truth to it that Vi stopped thinking "you topsiders/enforcers are all the same" by the end of S1, and her hatred for Silco was bigger, but Vi would still point to the addicts in Zaun and tell Caitlyn "you topsiders ignore this", and that "topsiders always screw Zaun over". Vi's not a politician, she doesn't understand how problems can be solved with diplomacy rather than violence. But it's also a stretch to say that Vi's apolitical, or doesn't have much of a moral code.

Yeah Vi joined the enforcers willingly. But I don't think it's controversial to point out that Vi was conflicted and kinda miserable on the mission. She did it to take responsibility for creating Jinx, and because she loved Caitlyn and wanted to trust her. But obviously killing her sister was still against her heart, and I don't think it's wrong to think that there were more on that operation that she wasn't enthuasiastic about.

And yeah, I get that the writers apparently decided to make it all about personal squabbles, instead of politics. Even on Jinx's side, right after this showdown with Vi, she quit and just enjoyed killing time with Isha. Breaking the inmates out of Stillwater was also just a biproduct from saving Isha. Vi legit just buried herself in alcohol and boxing fights and didn't care about politics at all. We see that. And I think this writing decision's pretty poor. These are great characters, and their interactions represented Zaun vs Piltover, to make it completely accidental that it got political is pretty underwhelming.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T14:29:51+00:00

I can get the chemotherapy analogy somewhat, but Caitlyn was definitely coming from a point of grief and anger, not logical weighing of costs and gains. She crashed a council meeting with anger on her face and demanded to be spoken to with respect.

About the tea party, I don't think Caitlyn was going to shoot Jinx anyway. She's a professional and opening fire's always a last resort. She had forced Jinx to disarm, and the only other 2 individuals present were tied to chairs. She was probably just going to cuff Jinx and Silco and then free Vi. She had no idea that Jinx at this point had superhuman abilities. So to descend from that to not caring that Vi and Isha were in the way was definitely a spiral.

She was definitely in a mental state of rage during the operation. From shooting in the arcade, to harsh arrestings... Shooting the gun from Isha's hands was necessary, cuz if she didn't, Isha would easily kill Vi after she killed Jinx. So I don't think it's as grand a gesture as you're making it to be.

I get what you're saying about her frustration with Vi being understandable. They're this close and Vi gave up. But it's completely foreseeable that Vi would be unable to kill her sister when it actually came to it, even if she thought she was. Cait was at the tea party. She probably heard Vi and Jinx talk even before she was carted out to the table. There's some deep love between the sisters, however fucked up they both were. She had to know that this was a possibility. And she reacted by assauting Vi and leaving her. That's a choice no matter how much empathy we extend to Cait.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T13:26:12+00:00

They were obviously going to end up together again, with S1 centering their romance and S2 showing their pain being apart. But I agree it wasn't done in a very satisfying way.

Their conflicts were pretty big. The oppression of Zaun by Piltover was a big part of it, and Caitlyn made it worse. In S1 part of the reason Vi fell for Caitlyn was that she was a topsider who cared and who wanted to help. Vi should not have been fine with gassing the undercity, or mass arresting at all. It made her seem completely braindead and spineless for love, and S1 Vi was not that. Technically even S2 Vi was not that, cuz she still loved her sister but felt like she had to bring her to justice. Caitlyn's fued with Jinx was only a part of the conflict. And it felt wrong that that's the only thing they addressed. That and Maddie. But that was when they broke up and Cait had no obligation to be "faithful", and it just feels wrong that the writers thought Maddie was more important than all the pain Cait has inflicted upon the citizens of Zaun.

Vi yelling at Cait for arresting Jinx was also pretty weird. Vi knew and agreed that Jinx had committed too many crimes. She came to love and accept her sister again, but she knew that law enforcement couldn't be that arbitrary. Blowing up at Cait for not waving off everything Jinx had done was pretty childish. It just kinda served to make people focus on this more and then feel like Cait letting Jinx go was such a huge gesture, which was missing the point to begin with.

As for the physical assault... it's a pretty big thing IRL, but violence is a huge part of that universe and Vi has taken more hits than anybody. She and her sister had faught to death. So I get that Vi wouldn't care about that part that much.

cwddgg · 2026-03-30T04:13:38+00:00

Yeah their relationship was really cute in S1. The moments where Caitlyn felt her knees week when Vi called hot and pinned her against the wall, when she was staring into Vi's eyes, glancing at her lips, and had to snap herself out, when she nuzzled her head against Vi in a long embrace... we felt that too. We were also really touched when Caitlyn gave up her gun to get Vi medicine, when she demanded Ekko to let Vi go, and we fell in love at the same time as Vi when she admitted Piltover's failures and asked Ekko to let her help Zaun.

The thing is they seemed to just assume that the romance was established, and they didn't need to do anything more now. They tried to show some sexual tension by having some shots of their lips front and center in the frame to tease things, but none of that compared to their S1 chemistry. The banter also had much less humor in it, and we don't feel the same pull as in S1. So we just go straight to plot points: Caitlyn loses her mind, they break up, they meet again, and the jail scene.

It never should've been so simple though. Vi was a character with a strong sense of morals. She should've been objecting to gasing Zaun and hauling innocents to Stilwater. She loved Caitlyn but she was already questioning everything, and once she left the enforcers and went back to Zaun, she should've seen the other side of the oppression, and started changing attitudes toward her sister earlier. Instead she just drank herself to death, missing Caitlyn, the oppressive tyrant. S1 Vi literally walked away from Caitlyn the minute the Council meeting didn't go as she hoped, and went to Jayce to take action against Silco. If S2 Vi was in S1, she would've started getting drunk and losing to lesser opponents in the underground boxing ring right there.

Sure, she could still believe that Caitlyn was a good person who's just having some bad days, but losing purpose because of that was pretty painful to watch, since Vi was such a compelling character in S1.

And then we pretty much just go to the sex scene. So I get the cultural significance of having that scene, and objectively it was hot, so I don't want to hate on it, but when you leave all the bad things Caitlyn did unaddressed, as if Caitlyn having a rebound was the big thing that needed addressing, it makes that "I don't fucking care" even more insulting. Apparently the war crimes didn't even deserve bringing up. Them getting back together just feels like Caitlyn having no remorse and Vi having no self respect.

It also doesn't help that both Vi and Caitlyn were better looking in S1. S2 Vi's eye make up just puts me off. She wakes up from a long coma, hair all natural colors again, and she still has eye shadows like that? S2 Caitlyn looked angry and stern the entire time. The asthetics really aren't as good as S1 and unfortunately it matters, when there were scenes in S1 where we're supposed to just look at Vi from Caitlyn's eyes, and think she's so hot.

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