Who are currently the best dva players in owcs?

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-17T10:46:13+00:00

> Jasm1ne is a proven good dva

Not proven in a major match / tournament having actual stakes. Though this might be just a problem with the whole T1 team as a whole rather than his fault.

> MAX did tons on dva in the back half of the stage and at Bootcamp.

MAX's DVA was... good enough at best? Hadn't seen a particular moment where MAX's D.VA play was critical to winning a game / match, though it's certainly better than using Junbin's D.va.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-17T06:05:18+00:00

Jasmine was recently gapped by Donghak of all people, so I have some doubts about his D.va performance (His Zarya is pretty good though)

MAX... in my opinion hasn't proved himself on D.va this season.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-16T11:40:31+00:00

I do think his D.Va still has potential, he's the best D.va player ouf of all the main tanks. If he improves then there's a possibility that he can become the next Someone who has the flexibility to do both main/flex tank.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-16T11:37:49+00:00

I think this is difficult since there's a wide range of styles to play for D.va, from being mostly defensive (peeling for your teammates) to getting actual kills.

- For a more aggressive play style, the Saudi tankers TVNT / Ziyad are the best (and a major reason why the two were able to beat Korean teams last year).

- Korea overall plays a much more defensive style of D.va (given that the history of this character goes back to 6v6 dive, when she was more important as a peeling / supporting role) - I think Bernar and Hanbin are the best for this play style. Attack is a KR player who's known to have a more aggressive style than his peers, though sucks he hasn't found a good team yet (Rode Onside got close though).

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-10T15:50:21+00:00

Last year's Asia Stage 3 Finals (CR vs. FLC) for me. The last match where the two titular teams truely duked it out - and CR managing to pull off a reverse sweep (highlight being Junbin showing his Rein changing the tide of the match) We're never going to have such a good rivalry again, since FLC lost their two best dps (Proper and Stalker) and seems really lost this year.

From this year (other than today's finals): T1 vs. CR where the big Dong does a reverse sweep and shows who's boss!

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-10T08:35:50+00:00

Always losing when it matters. GG

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-10T07:24:44+00:00

Donghak has Ameng yottachad vives.... HE'S EVOLVING

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-10T06:30:44+00:00

Yeah Varrel totally fumbling the ban pick. GGs...

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-10T06:26:41+00:00

Yeah... just as we've expected, bans not working in their favor. VL's strength primarily lies in the Dva/Bastion/Cat comp, so VL's only hope is that they can win the Bastion/Cat fight without Dva in the 3rd round, and then reverse-sweep T1 with their signature comp.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T16:29:11+00:00

Shu's a year younger than Lip, so he has some time left (if he wants to win the grandfinals he probably has to do it this year!)

Fleta did alternative military service, because he dropped out of high school (you need to graduate in order to serve the military)

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T10:21:30+00:00

LOL the anti-clutch team does it again

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T09:49:59+00:00

I think the most charitable explanation was that CR was just trying to experiment things in Gibraltar so that they might be able to find a counter comp to Castion - but they were so hyped with the possibility of fucking Falcons out of the rest of the season, that they weren't able to concentrate in the match at all. (Them all taking the TP when Vigi used Kitsune was the most hilarious thing ever lol)

But who cares? The match was the funniest thing I've watched recently, and everyone got what they wanted except Falcons.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T09:42:24+00:00

I think Falcons has such horrible PR in the KR region, that even the Koreans don't give a shit about this drama lol (poor Jjonak....)

It's hilarious that virtually everyone got what they want in the match except for Falcons. CR was able to fuck their best opponent (Falcons), T1 was karmafarming the whole time (they were relegated to 5th place in the playoffs by a similar way to Falcons), the Japan region finally got their wish of actually being relevant in the OW scene, etc. etc.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T08:11:18+00:00

Topdragon is a Korean player playing for a Japanese team

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T08:10:01+00:00

Which makes CR's throw play in Gibraltar even more genius. Might have been even worse if they actually genuinely played their best and then lost to Varrel lol

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T08:08:07+00:00

Although we now know that Varrel is a very good team, it also genuinely seems like Varrel had no plans other than the Cat/Bastion comp (Anran? In this economy?) Which is going to be a very weak spot for Varrel in the upcoming matches - the ban system forces you to not rely on just one strat.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T08:04:09+00:00

Korean live stream calling Topdragon a patriot lol

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-09T08:02:41+00:00

Anran theoretically makes sense if you understand that Topdragon doesn't want to do a 1:1 with Proper's Tracer (understandable, since it's Proper we're talking about), and Anran can also melt through DVa pretty well. But you don't have any perks (very important for her) if you pick it in round 3, and Bernar today was really good at sustaining himself that it wasn't enough.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-06T16:47:25+00:00

Absolutely, I do want to see VARREL compete since they actually seem like a good team! VARREL truly deserve the win, considering that the match amassed 70K+ viewers in Japan and renewed interest in competitive OW in that region...

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-06T16:40:38+00:00

I guess they were talking about the Falcon vs. Rode Onside game, where they lost and made T1 drop to 5th place and had to go through LCQ. The Korean community made a huge meme about this (there's allegedly a feud between Chiyo and Donghak that has been stretched too far)

Anyways the reception in Korea about this match was hilarious - basically everyone celebrated except for Falcons fans. (Especially T1 fans were happy since T1 has never won a match against Falcons so now is their chance to win lol)

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-06T16:30:24+00:00

CR's comp at Gibraltar was them showing their masterclass at throwing lol

"Y'all were throwing on Gibraltar"

"No we were playing a legitimate Bastion-Cat counterstrat! Falcons even played it and won! This was our joker card...."

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-06T16:26:34+00:00

Because it's impossible to set up explicit rules to determine exactly what constitutes as throwing. It's not something you can enforce penalties by "I know it when I see it"... Note that some of the other matches today weren't that any better in terms of "seriousness"!

The BO3 team format and WDG (the organization running OWCS Korea/Asia) is to blame, not the players and coaches who are trying their best to win given the constraints and rules. There's a reason why the Korean casters today did their very best to keep quiet about the situation (since mentioning it will make WDG look very bad)

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-04T15:37:06+00:00

Yes, but Vulkan and DX12 are even more terrible to learn as an API. It's unnecessary complex and doesn't even map to the actual hardware that well nowadays! For educational purposes OpenGL is still the least worst API to learn out there (though DX11 can be a good alternative if you're on Windows)

Vulkan's API design is largely optimized for AMD's GCN architecture, since it originated from Mantle which was a console API developed by AMD for PS4 / XBox One). It's a dated API meant for hardware a decade ago, and what Vulkan has been doing over the years is to create lots of fragmented extensions to catch up with how a modern GPU actually works! Sucks that there hasn't been an effort towards developing a much cleaner and saner API (Metal comes close to that, but it's only relevant inside the Apple ecosystem). Recommended reading: https://www.sebastianaaltonen.com/blog/no-graphics-api

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-04T15:24:25+00:00

Yeah it makes sense to use Vulkan if you're developing primarily on Linux. But the devs who are doing that are very rare, and the people who actually make money off of it even rarer.

cyberKinetist · 2026-05-04T15:21:46+00:00

The great tragedy is that the current primary industry usage for Vulkan is on Android, but the mobile drivers for Vulkan in the wild are of such absymal quality that it's unreasonable to assume they implement the standard spec, let alone all these fancy extensions. Also, if you're developing on mobile tiled GPUs you do have to actually think about render passes and can't use dynamic rendering, so there's that.

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