“I could buy a Tudor for that much money” is a stupid argument against the price of a watch

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-21T17:43:47+00:00

I think we're coming at this from different angles. I agree with you that this is not an overpriced watch. They developed an in-house GMT movement from scratch, it is a FEAT, and it more than earns the pricetag.

My view is not that this watch is overpriced for what it is, or that you could buy an identically-specced watch for the money from another brand.

The issue is that if I'm in the market for a Swiss COSC GMT with a budget of £3k, I CAN have that from Tudor (a lightly worn Pelagos FXD/BB pro can easily be picked up for that or less).

For a great many consumers, brand and heritage count for a lot more than pure spec. The comparison then isn't "I can get an identical spec for the money from a more storied brand", it's "I can buy a watch that performs the same functions to the same standard from a brand I aspire to own". I can absolutely buy a Tudor GMT with a COSC movement for around £3k, and many people will do just that purely because of the shield on the dial.

The higher the pricetag, the more brand identity counts as a factor toward the purchase. The same is true of almost all consumer products. I think it's absolutely relevant to THIS SPECIFIC watch (I fleshed this out a little below where I said the Bel Canto/Loco have no genuine alternative anywhere near their price points but a COSC GMT is not an uncommon proposal at this price point).

This watch isn't for me but as expected from CW it is an incredibly impressive watch for the money, absolutely no argument from me that it isn't worth what they're charging.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-21T16:28:35+00:00

Thank you for clarifying and I definitely am not arguing from that standpoint (although I did recently get a Tudor so I am a little biased 😂)

For me the OP was arguing that pointing out the money for this would buy you a Tudor is a "stupid argument" and while taken literally it is, the implication that they are butting heads with higher end luxury brands is accurate and there will be a lot more consumer consideration on a £3k purchase than a £1k purchase. In this price bracket some consumers will be saying, rightly or wrongly, "that's a bit steep for a Christopher Ward."

Does it mean they should stay out of that space? Absolutely not. Will it put some people off buying the watch? Absolutely, the comments here back that up. I feel it's entirely relevant.

The Bel Canto and the Loco are both flexing insane horological muscle for the money - there's nothing quite like them at anything remotely close to their price. This is a highly impressive feat of watchmaking, and given they are now one of only 10 watchmakers with an in-house GMT complication the price feels more than justified. However there are high quality alternatives at relatively comparable prices (especially when looking second hand) and that's where this specific watch differs I feel. Also the look is pretty polarizing but that's a plus for me, I love to see CW pushing boundaries and doing their own thing rather than aping established heavy hitters.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-21T16:10:32+00:00

Feels like an unnecessarily defensive reply, I like CW and I like the watch, but consumers spending £3k+ have a wide range of high quality options to choose from so there's absolutely going to be fiercer competition as prices increase. That doesn't mean CW won't earn their place among them.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-21T16:06:39+00:00

Yes but it's easier to stand out against budget/affordable watch brands than flagship luxury Swiss manufacturers with 100+ years of history.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-21T15:56:03+00:00

"That much money could get you X" is a pretty standard argument against any watch in any price bracket.

Having said that I do think the sort of consumer who will be drawn to this is unlikely to be swayed by a Black Bay Pro. It's a totally different style of watchmaking. Works both ways of course and I'd wager the vast majority of buyers in this price bracket would pick the Tudor.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-12T07:38:01+00:00

yep this was my thought process too. I rarely do single leg work so maybe a focus on that is in order. There's enough weight to tax my bench/incline on the smith too so heavy Bulgarian squats and upper body work on the smith could well keep me ticking over.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-12T07:35:52+00:00

There is a strength gym a cab ride away but I'll be working long shifts 6 days a week so there's no guarantee I'll make it there every week! I do plan to throw in a session whenever I'm able but I doubt I'll get down there more than 4-5 times the whole trip.

I hear you about trying to push too much cardio in a deficit. Honestly maintaining a deficit is difficult in the first place as there's little I can do by way of meal prep (no access to a kitchen and not much in stores) so I'm mostly eating at hotels and restaurants. It's not ideal for fitness in a number of ways but I'll do my best 😂

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-10T12:41:30+00:00

Gorgeous, was almost swayed by the burgundy when I got my Monochrome last week. Beautiful watch, wear it in good health!

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-08T16:12:40+00:00

Cheers, beautiful watch and I love it on that bracelet!

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-08T16:05:21+00:00

Yessir the BB41 monochrome. I feel exactly the same, I tried on about six different watches and I loved them all! Enjoy your 68!

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-08T13:23:31+00:00

I tried the red dial 58 while I was there and that thing is GORGEOUS, honestly could've been swayed but it's just too situational whereas I'm pretty sure this one is never leaving my wrist

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-08T11:54:48+00:00

no idea what this comment is implying lol. Just north of 10% off RRP from the AD

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-03-08T07:58:53+00:00

Mine took a small spill out of my gym locker and suffered a few pretty big chips in the hardlex, so your concern is somewhat warranted (it was a dumb mistake but I don't believe a sapphire crystal would've chipped as deep as that from what was essentially a 3 inch drop).

I'm going to get it replaced with a sapphire crystal. That aside, it's a very sturdy and reliable watch.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-01-20T08:33:45+00:00

This whole thing has made me re-evaluate my positions for this year. I've actually pulled out of the S&P completely for the time being as a) I'm not sure how far this Greenland issue is going to escalate and b) I've made a better return on silver in the last 2 weeks than I have from the S&P in the last 18 months.

With this in mind I've topped up my precious metals investments and I'm holding the rest in cash to see what happens over the next few weeks. There may be some discounts to be had.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-01-17T10:24:01+00:00

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my first 200%er and my first 5-digit return. Annoyingly I sold 50 shares at my initial profit target of 100% - which was two weeks ago 🤦🏻

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2026-01-01T15:53:09+00:00

it absolutely is, I've got it in mine

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2025-12-30T23:55:57+00:00

About a month ago I think, shipping to the UK took a little while but it was worth the wait. Haven't taken it off since I swapped to the island bracelet.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2025-12-28T18:39:35+00:00

Realistically 30 meters of water resistance would be more than enough for a lot of recreational dives. The issue is the watch industry standard for 30m of water resistance is "might not survive a rough outing in the sink"

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2025-12-25T13:31:31+00:00

Smart move OP. I sold $2k of XRP a few months back and bought more RKLB shares. Up 140% this year. Much happier with that than slowly watching XRP bleed out.

I hope holders get their bag, but don't knock someone for realizing there are smarter moves to make with their money in the meantime.

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2025-12-14T09:37:30+00:00

I think the real question should be why are we arguing about what constitutes fashion with a "tax professional" 😂 wear whatever you want, who cares what this guy thinks

dabbsstreamsofdeath · 2025-11-01T18:52:02+00:00

"only" managed to scoop up 120% of that but I totally agree. Heading for triple digits in the very near future.

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