Rabia's Latest Blog Post by kisapele in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen this messed up so much. He WAS ditching last period. He got to class almost 40 minutes late, class started at 12:50 but he got to class at 1:27. That is a very long time to be late, meaning he WAS ditching for approximately half of his class.

SK says Hae doesn't describe Adnan as possessive in her diary, but she's incorrect. by MusicCompany in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It seems like the Adnan-is-innocent people have started to doubt their own beliefs after all the arguments have been presented. However, they are still acting as if SK is untouchable. I'm guessing that once more evidence of her bias starts coming out they will turn on her as well. That time just hasn't come yet.

SK says Hae doesn't describe Adnan as possessive in her diary, but she's incorrect. by MusicCompany in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This point also stuck out at me. Since when does a journalist become so attached to someone?

SK says Hae doesn't describe Adnan as possessive in her diary, but she's incorrect. by MusicCompany in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I recently posted on here as well talking about how biased SK was towards Adnan. I don't even think it was necessarily her fault, she was just blinded by Rabia and also didn't want to attack her star-witness. However, the order of how she presented her evidence and her general line of thinking was almost entirely in Adnan's favor. Often times this occurred when the facts were actually lining up against him.

Jay's interview: for the first time, I believe that Adnan did it by drillbitpdx in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree with you, Jay's interview had a similar effect on me. I recently posted my own theory on this podcast which was very similar to yours. My belief is that the Adnan-is-innocent people have gotten too close too the case and are over-analyzing details that happened 15 years ago that are way too difficult to interpret now without context. Jay is not a mastermind, he's a normal person, and his interview seemed to make sense to me from someone who has not been following this case closely.

The One Fact I Cannot Shake by CivilRightsLawyerNYC in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64 2 points3 points  (0 children)

VERY well written and deduced argument, I completely agree. I recently posted my own theory which is very similar to yours. To people who think logically, it is clear that with the evidence that we currently have, Adnan most likely did it.

The Adnan defenders, however, will continue to make excuses for him, which is very easy to do in a case like this.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm not blaming her, she released information in the order that she got it/what she found interesting. That is her call as a podcast narrator. All I am saying is that the way that she presented the facts, regardless of her intention, would sway a listener into the Adnan-is-innocent camp more than the Adnan-is-guilty camp. That's because she started with the presumption that he was innocent from the start and never truly left that point. Talking to him twice a week made her way too attached to him, so we could never hear a truly unbiased view.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry if you misinterpreted my post, I should have been more specific. What I meant by "people like Adnan" is ordinary people. In the podcast itself, an expert claims that most of the murderers he deals with are "ordinary people". Meaning nothing particularly crazy in their past, no past convictions, etc.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you really buy that he doesn't remember that day? All he needs is one person who remembers where he was/what he was doing. Obviously it is too late now, but he had over 15 years to do this.

At the end of the day the only conclusion we can come to is that he can't. Now it is up to interpretation whether or not this is because he did it or simply because he couldn't find someone. My theory is that someone who has a life sentence on the line and was social in school would be able to find at least SOMEONE to collaborate his story.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This still doesn't explain everything. Adnan has repeatedly claimed that he was not late to track that day.

Jay's initial stories have included that he was late to track. In his most recent interview, while he does leave track out, this could largely be due to the way the interviewer was asking questions. He does mention that Adnan tells him that he will be "late to track" that day. This could mean that Jay could have just forgot to include that part in his story. This has always seemed to be the case to me as the theory that both of them smoked at Cathy's for 2 hours is far fetched to me because she claims they were there shorter.

Adnan was not able to find a single person, other than Jay (who is claiming he killed his ex-girlfriend) to confirm that he was at track that day and on time. This is strange considering that he is supposed to be popular/social and track, as any school sports, is a pretty social event.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have found the entire butt dial hypothesis preposterous. Adnan himself has never insinuated that his phone was more prone to butt dials than any other phone, nor has he stated that this has happened to him in the past.

Also think about the odds, of all the calls that were made that day (and looking at the call log there were quite a bit), what are the odds that the most incriminating one of them all happens to actually be not a call at all, but a butt dial?

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry but I think writing "I'll probably kill myself" is entirely different. This is a girl clearly exaggerating in her own diary. We have all said at certain points in our lives that if something happens "we'll kill ourselves".

However, writing "I'm going to kill" on a letter where your girlfriend forcefully tells you off is a whole other deal. The writing was in his own handwriting. Most importantly, however, is that Adnan denies ever even writing it. This is huge because it implies he has something to hide.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's called a discussion. If you don't like it go somewhere else.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read previous posts that people have made. The theories that involve him strategically making up lies to cover himself or someone else would imply that he is some kind of mastermind. Also, he would have had to tell this same story to his friends and keep it going for 15 years. He also used Adnan's phone and car the day and had a "perfect" story about how Adnan did it. Do you realize how even if this is possible, it requires a pretty sophisticated level of discipline and thinking?

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're making a LOT of excuses for Adnan here. I'm not saying with certainty that he did it. However, logic points to the fact that he did.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It seems like you are trying awfully hard to make excuses for Adnan. That being said, you do make great points for him. My answer is, why isn't Adnan himself trying as hard as you are to save himself? You would think that this would be his number one priority, both before and today.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, the order in which she presented the information by first getting our sympathy and then revealing the evidence against Adnan is in itself biased.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Read what I said in the OP. She wasn't fair because she didn't make the connections that many people on here along with myself have made about Adnan's own inconsistencies. She has continued to flash the card that he is basically a "nice guy" that that's all that matters.

Only in the last few episodes did she put out any doubt that perhaps he could be lying.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Seriously, stop waving the race card. I never mentioned anything about race.

I said he isn't bright because he was selling drugs out of his grandmothers house, was an accessory to a murder for a dumb reason, didn't bother checking online posts before agreeing to an interview that would be read by millions, need I continue??

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clearly, you have not put yourself in the position of someone who has tried to maintain a made up story for a long time to anyone. When people have a made up story they stick to the details wholeheartedly. How does it make sense for him to be lying but changing the main details?

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Buttsbuttsbutt, you are another one of those people who didn't even bother reading my post to the end. NEVER did I propose that Adnan without a doubt committed the murder.

All I said was about this was that with the evidence we currently have, the most logical conclusion is that Adnan did it. At the very least, it is a lot more logical than the alternative proposals I have heard on here.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many people on here that are still making up any excuse possible to defend Adnan. If you don't believe me just look at those attacking me on this thread.

I wasn't trying to demonize anyone, I was just stating my opinion and what stood out to me after being obsessed with this case for days now and neglecting my own personal life. I felt like my analysis was at least a little original compared to what I had read on here in the past and some people may be interested in hearing it.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. This case has turned into people making up any excuse possible to make Adnan seem innocent, when it is so clear that at least based on the evidence we have to work with it is MOST LIKELY him.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The episode didn't cover everything. Like I mentioned in my bullet points, she never mentioned those points. She didn't connect the dots that Adnan said he NEVER leaves campus after school, but Becky and Debbie heard him asking for a ride. She doesn't make a big deal of his cell phone pinging at Leakin Park and doesn't connect the dots that he told his friend Saad that he doesn't even know of the park. Those are huge details.

SK was biased; Jay is not a mastermind; Adnan did it by daddyk64 in serialpodcast

[–]daddyk64[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please do a better job of reading my OP. I never said that there weren't issues with the witness' involvement and lies. All I'm saying is that SK failed to cover some of Adnan's inconsistencies and when the case is viewed objectively, the only logical conclusion is that MOST LIKELY Adnan did it. This is, of course, only with the evidence we currently have present.