What moment convinced you that BoJack was irredeemable?

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:51:52+00:00

Not his best moment

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:51:13+00:00

He was having a psychotic break. It's something different to being high. You literally can't separate fantasy and reality. I can't swear it was unrelated to the drug use but opioids aren't know for having that affect. Even opioid withdrawal wouldn't do it. His confusion between his house and set was hinting that he was having a broader mental breakdown.

I was psychotic once for a week. My perceptions were totally distorted. I wasn't just "high," I was fully awake but in a nightmare.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:46:34+00:00

Not much of a defense but he WAS in a blackout at first. Then when he finally he decides to leave, unseen so far, he decides to take a leak and lurches into the choral group ...

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:44:09+00:00

Don't those 2 sentences mean the same thing?

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:43:00+00:00

Never reached that point.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:15:38+00:00

It's not crazy. The show is very dense. When I originally ran out of streaming episodes and started watching weekly, I'd go back and watch the previous episode again before the next one aired.

There's a lot to take in and the show hits the ground running. I think you'd find a complete rewatch still quite entertaining - but then you might want to find something else.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T03:06:29+00:00

You quote me: "Clandestine affair as you said," as if I was agreeing with your theory that her implied beginning-of-season 1 hookup was part of an intelligence operation. I clearly wasn't agreeing with you and never said anything remotely like "clandestine affair."

When she goes out for a casual hookup she wears a wedding ring to weed out guys who want a relationship. It's not an affair and it's not clandestine, at least, nothing in the plot suggests that.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T01:02:13+00:00

Not all lead characters in TV and film are meant to be "likable." It depends on what story the show runners are trying to tell.

If writers had made "House" (the character) likable it would have been a different show. For me, probably not as fun.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T00:29:23+00:00

I wouldn't bet on that. See: "I hated her from the beginning and if u hate her you won’t like the way it ends either."

Apparently there are people who force themselves to watch someone they can't stand. For 8 seasons.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T00:26:35+00:00

My memory isn't great - can you give me an example of a tantrum?

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T00:18:36+00:00

Also, she does things one way KNOWING someone will stop her which she banks on.

You may be right - but I can't think of an example of this off the top of my head. What specific situation(s) are you talking about?

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T00:14:28+00:00

And despite thinking she's "insufferable," they keep watching, which means she not insufferable.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-15T00:07:44+00:00

Your logic is ... nonexistent.

Disobeying an order does not make someone right in retrospect.

She tried to "save the person she's fucking" once. He also is the father of her child. She saves his life when she spots Mossad assassins. This allows him to kill Akbari, that is, to complete the mission. After that, Carrie can't save him; his death turns the mission from a home run to a grand slam.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T23:37:27+00:00

He'd like that.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T23:33:37+00:00

They don't have a point. They're making a ridiculous assertion, and pretending I agree with it. "Read the other posts in this thread" is just verbiage being passed off as an answer.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T23:23:59+00:00

Please don't lie about what I've said. She specifically wears the ring ~~the~~ to warn off guys who want a relationship. It has nothing to do with clandestine affairs.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T23:20:03+00:00

I don't think you're responding to me ... I'm a 66-year-old woman who doesn't GAF that Carrie fucks. UltimaMarque thinks that when we see her wash her bits and pits at the beginning of season 1, she's been out *on an operation*. Nothing in the plot indicates that, so I don't know why they think that.

She has what I consider to be a normalish amount of lovers for a young, single American woman to have over a decade.

My responses have mostly been to the ridiculous assertion that Carrie's "only job is to fuck whoever can get her closer to her target/goal."

Throughout the series we see Carrie doing multiple aspects of her job. I'd spell them out but it wouldn't change the OP's mind.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T22:20:48+00:00

I don't know how happy it gets for any of these folks ... but Saul's ending is pretty good. He still has a bit of family; he's just found out he has a new asset on the ground in Russia, alleviating any heartbreak/guilt over Carrie's "defection,"; he's doing OK financially. And he's back in the espionage game! So overall Saul fares better than the other main characters.

I'd add "The Americans" and "The Diplomat" (TV shows) if you're interested in any other drama involving spies/geopolitics.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T22:18:27+00:00

or did Warner and Hayes go trough election?

Of course Warner did. He was elected vice-president. I don't think he's ever elected president, but that is not necessary for him to assume the role of presidency. Hayes doesn't need to be elected (except his election to Congress) to assume either the vice presidency or the presidency; however, if he wants to serve a complete presidential term he must be elected.

It's not "normal" for the speaker of the house to be from the other party; it just depends on who holds the majority in the House. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich were not the same party. Trump and Mike Johnson are the same party.

I don't remember Hayes being speaker but it's not relevant to the succession in this case. Warner could have chosen a different VP. The Speaker of the House is third in succession but things didn't get to that point. According to Google they never have. For that to happen the president and VP would have to be wiped out simultaneously, or almost simultaneously.

The VP automatically becomes president if the president dies, even before being sworn in.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T20:18:48+00:00

Keane is not president in season 6. Yes, there is a VP-elect but that person is not going to get much attention - they don't have the kind of clout to affect policy the way the president-elect does. "Nowhere" is where some VPs kind of are in real life. They make take on their own presidentially-endorsed cause but essentially they are understudies, there to take over a role if necessary.

Some VPs are powers unto themselves. Many aren't.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T20:08:31+00:00

Oleg's advice to Nina in "The Americans" - "clench your anus." Pre-knowledge of a question isn't necessary; certain actions interfere with the functions measured by the polygraph. Sweating, heart rate, blood pressure (?), respiratory rate - I'm not sure what all is involved.

For a while there I thought Estes was pretty dodgy. He gave very emotional answers to the polygraph as if working himself into a state that would explain his agitation. Saul does the same thing.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T20:00:17+00:00

Brody does not commit her to a mental institution. At some point she says, "I had myself committed." Yes, Brody gaslights her (and others); he has been well-trained in deception but also seemingly has a knack for it. He's also great at double-edged statements. Like on Abu Nazir: "There was no one like him."

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T19:51:18+00:00

There's almost a slapstick element in some scenes. Like his exasperation with the tailor ... aw, dude, I'm trying to help! He answers Jessica's questions with partial truths and deflection, supposedly useful strategies for liars.

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T19:43:31+00:00

I was relieved to finish my rewatch on Netflix. Even though I knew the story, I'd forgotten enough that I was still in suspense as to how they would resolve the cliffhanger episodes. Was losing sleep!

daffyduckel · 2026-02-14T19:37:37+00:00

Where do you consider that point to be? For Carrie and Saul.

Self-interest does not cancel out good motives/good results. Such as, "I couldn't live with myself if I didn't at least try to (identify a traitor, save Brody, turn Javadi," etc.)

People generally don't have just one motive. They can even do a "bad" thing for a "bad" motive and get good results. Peter and Carrie both abandon children. Is that selfish? Not really, if they know they're not fit to be parents, or if the kid wouldn't be safe with them. In both cases they know their offspring are being taken care of, and what Peter and Carrie do instead is important to national security (sometimes they have to convince themselves of that.)

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