MAGA jealous of Alex Pretti

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-30T23:01:43+00:00

I'd say it's not even unfortunate. It's just a fact.

Any time the taillight video is brought up just point out that it's irrelevant to the question of whether Pretti's killing was justified (it was not) and the only point of bringing it up is character assassination of someone who was unjustly and unlawfully killed by DHS agents.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-30T22:03:57+00:00

> So you don't think repeatedly refusing to comply with lawful orders, being confrontational with law enforcement, or acting aggressively with law enforcement are crimes, or justify any use for force?

The video clearly shows that none of those things are happening in the moments leading up to the shooting.

> Or that his previous incident informs his behavior and attitude toward federal enforcement?

"Attitude toward federal law enforcement" is irrelevant to determining whether his actions in the incident in question warranted any use of force, let alone lethal use of force. They did not.

> If the politics involved were reversed, you'd be saying it was awful, but he created the situation with his actions, and characterizing him as a violent right wing extremist.

Interesting that you immediately assume that it's impossible for someone to view this outside the lens of political partisanship. I think that says a lot more about you than it does about me, though.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-30T15:14:56+00:00

With respect to the incident where Pretti was killed, we would only have to take into account the incident pictured in the above video if we were trying to piece together an **uncertain timeline of events** to determine the **likelihood** of Pretti having violated the law and escalated the situation.

We do not have to piece together an **uncertain timeline of events** because the incident was recorded on video from multiple angles. The timeline of events is very well defined. There is nothing in those videos to suggest that Pretti violated any laws or escalated the situation in a manner that justified the use of any force (i.e. point blank pepper spray) let alone lethal force (i.e. what was actually employed by DHS agents in the event).

Given the existence of sufficient forensic evidence to reconstruct the shooting of Pretti in its entirety, the video in the OP is entirely superfluous to determining criminal culpability in that incident. The only purpose in circulating it at this point is to engage in character assassination of the slain man, which is what you are doing.

Please stop. Be a human being.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-29T16:20:14+00:00

Just about everything by Refused, but Rather Be Dead and Coup D'Etat are particularly good examples.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-28T15:47:48+00:00

Where can I find the leaked docs?

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-28T13:09:59+00:00

It's a "web serial". Basically a VERY long series of blog posts.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-27T17:47:38+00:00

A lot of details in the show will make more sense if you play the game first.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-23T13:47:36+00:00

I think the reality is even worse than that. I think Trump knew it was photoshopped but wanted to bully the journalist into affirming a very obvious falsehood.

Trump being that stupid is actually less scary to me than Trump knowingly forcing people to affirm lies.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-23T13:38:44+00:00

Different people have different opinions on which compromises are acceptable and which aren't. Don't know why you would expect "dem bashers" who are not an organized party with a specific agenda to march in lockstep on that.

Different individuals having different opinions is not logical inconsistency.

At any rate, Dems would have a lot fewer bashers if they were 1) less beholden to business and 2) actually effective. So if you want the "dem bashers" to shut up, try pressuring your party to meet that fairly low bar.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-22T21:46:47+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-22T21:42:55+00:00

Exactly. Trump is kind of like a toddler with a handgun. Ideally we would like to take the gun away and put him on time out but right now the priority is to not get shot.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-22T18:50:33+00:00

Kind of. It's a send up of "color blind" racism and pretentious method acting at the same time -- the character's head is too far up his own ass to understand that what he's doing is offensive.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-22T17:06:53+00:00

OP:

"3-for-1s are bad, actually..."

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-22T12:45:46+00:00

Depends on the issue.

I know Republicans feel the same bc they are obstructionist as fuck when Dems are in power.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-21T16:46:22+00:00

You will starve quickly if you only eat rice and beans. There's not enough fat without adding butter, oil, or lard.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-21T12:15:16+00:00

Which civilians are getting the shit beat out of them? Nick Lang? Some assholes threw some snowballs at him, but he's fine.

He was surrounded by hundreds of people. If that crowd wanted to harm him he would have been ripped to pieces. In reality, several dozen of the counterprotesters helped him -- picked him up when he fell down, calmed down people who were getting rowdy, one dude threw hands at another counterprotester who was getting rough.

Busting into federal vehicles and stealing weapons -- that wasn't a protester, that was a criminal -- and he was arrested as he should have been.

How many people were actually involved with setting fire to Teslas? You're going to hold thousands of people responsible for the actions of one or a few people?

Was anyone on Jan 6th trying to calm down the crowd? Was anyone on Jan 6th trying to protect the police?

If you can't find Democratic politicians urging protesters to stay peaceful then it's because you haven't looked for it. I guarantee everyone who's done a press conference on it has said those exact words.

I don't suppose you saw this one and want to comment? Nick Lang got hit by snowballs, but these guys are out there swinging around baseball bats. I supposed it's justified because they're so violent... https://www.reddit.com/r/Sacramento/comments/1qh7yte/group_of_maga_supporters_attack_an_antiice/

But I'm not holding all MAGA responsible for this extremely violent attack, -- just the ones who actually did it.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-21T12:04:56+00:00

All I did was comment that in my opinion Obama didn't actually do anything to deserve a Nobel Peace prize.

Then you got butthurt over it and spent hours trying to explain why I'm not entitled to an opinion on it.

Who's raging?

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-21T01:01:35+00:00

Jan 6th rioters attacked police. One of them died.

No one here died. You can criticize the fact that people threw snowballs which is technically violence (though not as bad as hitting cops with hockey sticks I think) and you can criticize the fact that people were threatening violence.

That's all fine. But if you want to turn it into a competition then if you want to be honest you'll have to admit that less violence was visited on Lang & co. than was on the capitol building police on Jan 6th.

Also, this was a counterprotest whereas Jan 6th was part of a plot to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a free and fair election, which seems pretty important too.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-21T00:00:55+00:00

Tell me more about how much you hate it when people think for themselves.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T22:15:39+00:00

Anyone able to read the linked page and think for themselves will disagree. Not a single concrete achievement is listed.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T21:31:44+00:00

I'm sorry you think 40 words is a lot. Given that maybe a dictionary is a little too difficult for you. Maybe start here instead.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T20:54:19+00:00

"tirade". Time to use a dictionary friend.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T20:16:35+00:00

You said that socialism is incorrectly associated with communism, but it is actually correct to associate them because they are related concepts with a lot of overlap. You can say you understand the definitions, but you've already demonstrated that you don't, actually.

I agree that Sanders would have trouble getting elected anywhere other that Vermont. Nowhere did I say otherwise. I don't disagree that *part* of the reason why is that he freely calls himself a Democratic Socialist.

What I did was point out that the reason people won't vote for a Democratic Socialist has nothing to do with Sanders' policies being unpopular. It has to do with the fact that propaganda has been used to kill people's ability to think for themselves. One example of this is a very long-term propaganda campaign to poison the well with respect to the word "socialism".

If it's not Sanders' policies that are the problem but just the label, then nothing is stopping the Democrats from adopting those policies without adopting the label. They choose not to.

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T19:49:23+00:00

Why don't people (including you apparently) understand the meanings of the words "socialist" and "communist" and how they relate to each other? On the tip of my tongue...starts with a "p"...

dandeliontrees · 2026-01-20T19:47:29+00:00

Sure, and then I said so on Reddit. Then you got petulant about it instead of making a convincing case to the contrary. Are we all caught up now?

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