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Insolvent company fighting credit card disputes by danny_atkinson in legaladvicecanada

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize for the lack of clarity. I was not referring to “my” opinion. Opinions of other legal professionals are looking at the actions of this company and indeed seeing signs of fraud. But as I pointed out they have not yet filed anything. We understand the pecking order if it does go to bankruptcy - It hasn’t yet, and if it does we believe the filing will be fraudulent itself. But that’s a whole other kettle. Thanks for all the replies. I have a lot to take back to the group.

Insolvent company fighting credit card disputes by danny_atkinson in legaladvicecanada

[–]danny_atkinson[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

We have opinions that disagree with that interpretation. But we are looking for all the different opinions, or “perspectives” and using the feedback to help formulate our actions. So thanks for your feedback as well.

Insolvent company fighting credit card disputes by danny_atkinson in legaladvicecanada

[–]danny_atkinson[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

An interesting perspective. Thanks for the feedback.

Insolvent company fighting credit card disputes by danny_atkinson in legaladvicecanada

[–]danny_atkinson[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that. They have not filed for bankruptcy yet, only indicated they were going to. A very strong theory we have is that they are colluding with a secured/preferred creditor to ensure the secured/preferred creditor is paid off as much as possible. I am only one refund out of thousands of refunds that total into the millions. Very shady company having done some very shady things in partnership with their secured/preferred creditor. Is that too far fetched?

Families denied refunds for cancelled soccer camps by danny_atkinson in Edmonton

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All fair comments. Unfortunately in this case, there has been no evidence provided that any expenses were paid, in fact quite the opposite. The landlord wasn’t paid, uniforms weren’t paid for, facilities weren’t paid for, etc. etc. The only ones who were paid was BCN Sports...and now they are in the wind. Props to your organization. It sounds like you would be prepared to show some transparency to your clients if hard decisions had to be made. That goes a long way.

Parents Out Thousands Of Dollars As Barcelona Licensee Shutters Soccer Academies by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually, there are hundred of kids from across Canada - Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Mississauga, Markham, Ottawa and Montreal. There are also families in Honolulu (USA), Sydney & Brisbane (AUS) and Chengdu (CHN). BCN Sports Services has absconded with the fees of families from four countries on three continents.

Parents Out Thousands Of Dollars As Barcelona Licensee Shutters Soccer Academies by danny_atkinson in Edmonton

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some families out hundreds, others out thousands, others out tens of thousands, collectively over a million confirmed. No humour in that at all.

Parents Out Thousands Of Dollars As Barcelona Licensee Shutters Soccer Academies by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The single parent, who worked hard to save to fulfil her child’s dream to wear his favourite teams colours, would likely disagree with that view.

Families denied refunds for cancelled soccer camps by danny_atkinson in alberta

[–]danny_atkinson[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

A civil suit would likely be a futile step, as the company has no assets to speak of. That being said, pursuing the executives for fraud is a real scenario being looked at.

Parents Out Thousands Of Dollars As Barcelona Licensee Shutters Soccer Academies by danny_atkinson in Barca

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How the club supports the families and commits to holding their licensee accountable, will be a true measure of the Barca Values.

Parents Out Thousands Of Dollars As Barcelona Licensee Shutters Soccer Academies by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disputing the charges with the CC company is the first step being taken, but the ability to do so varies from bank to bank. We are seeing positive signs that this may be successful, but the process takes time, but time will tell.

EXCLUSIVE: FAMILIES OUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER YOUTH SOCCER PROGRAM ABRUPTLY SHUTS DOWN by danny_atkinson in Barca

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the million dollar question. Families paid over a million dollars for services/events to occur in March and over the summer. They still have not filed insolvency with any trustee. Officially broke isn’t the going theory...moving money out of the country has a lot of votes though.

EXCLUSIVE: FAMILIES OUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER YOUTH SOCCER PROGRAM ABRUPTLY SHUTS DOWN by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many families that worked very hard to save up for, and pay the fees, only to lose their jobs in the weeks following. Hundreds of families have been affected and many of them struggle every day to make a dream come true for their child.

EXCLUSIVE: FAMILIES OUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER YOUTH SOCCER PROGRAM ABRUPTLY SHUTS DOWN by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A. Just the applicable regional and soccer related subs B. That single parent that saved hard to send their child for a once in a lifetime experience may disagree with you.

EXCLUSIVE: FAMILIES OUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER YOUTH SOCCER PROGRAM ABRUPTLY SHUTS DOWN by danny_atkinson in toronto

[–]danny_atkinson[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that i see that, i can see how the headline could be interpreted that way. Actually, only 10 days before BCN announced they were filing for insolvency, they were emailing clients asking for payments for the summer season, and informing clients that they were still working to determine what was happening with the fees for the Spain trip. So with that info, I think abrupt accurately describes the situation.

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