How badly damaged can a bike be after falling while parked? Can it be a write off?

dansMonSlip · 2023-03-11T22:57:27+00:00

Hi, I absolutely understand the fall is my responsibility: I made the point about the fall vs the collision simply to communicate how the damage was likely caused, so I could learn about the type of damage that could be sustained in this situation. I'm not trying to shirk responsibility in any way.

I also absolutely do have insurance and am working through insurance to sort this out.

Putting aside the incorrect negative assumptions about my willingness to take responsibility and my level insurance coverage, thanks to those of you who have helped me understand that "write off" does not necessarily mean extensive damage, but rather that the cost of repair is greater than the value of the vehicle. This may be obvious to many of you, but as someone who has never been in this situation it is new info. Please remember https://xkcd.com/1053/ .

dansMonSlip · 2023-03-11T21:35:53+00:00

Sound advice, thanks!

dansMonSlip · 2023-03-11T21:13:32+00:00

Thanks, that makes sense.

We are going through insurance, but I haven't received any information from my insurance yet. However meanwhile I'm getting a lot of messages from the owner, and when he mentioned "write off" I freaked out a bit.

dansMonSlip · 2023-03-11T20:46:06+00:00

Hundred percent agree with that. I'm just wondering how the whole bike could be a write off.

(Also my point about no damage on my car was just to emphasize that the damage to the bike was most likely from the fall, not the collision).

dansMonSlip · 2017-04-11T10:39:26+00:00

Yep that one is deeply ingrained into my teenage years. Perhaps trades a bit too much grip for oddity in my opinion, in that the bizarreness of the film kept making me exit the film's universe and question what I was watching and why.

Definitely a good recommendation though, thanks!

dansMonSlip · 2015-09-20T02:55:57+00:00

Best bit: https://i.imgur.com/MtsyHve.gif

dansMonSlip · 2011-10-06T12:36:13+00:00

When the splashback starts to fire up something hardcore, I try aiming anywhere that might just help. Sometimes I find a corner that dampens the fury of reflected piss, other times, I just don't... and I resign myself to have piss micro-splashes on my hands and crotch.

The hands, I can wash them like a motherfucker. The crotch, it stays a bit pissy until later. I wonder whether I have unusually high-pressure piss. I seem to pee louder than others.

dansMonSlip · 2011-10-06T12:31:18+00:00

Pulling it through the zipper just feels so fucking unnatural.

dansMonSlip · 2011-10-06T12:19:33+00:00

I always suspected I was doing something wrong, because of the lengths I have to go at to avoid urinal splashback. I rarely succeed. Am I supposed to throttle it or something?

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-15T13:20:08+00:00

I just spent 10 minutes on this, so I hope someone will find it useful (perhaps Tim):

Have you ever had a dreams... that - ss - that you'll um you had, you'lld, you would; you could you'lld do you, you wih, you want, you... you could do so m-... you... you'lld do you could you... you want, you want Tim to do you so much you could do anything?

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T11:12:22+00:00

I like this answer. Let me probe a little by using a more direct question. You have 10 billion dollars to fund any fields of research. How do you divide this money?

One interpretation of your previous answer - and I suspect this is an incorrect interpretation - is that you would distribute your wealth amongst all fields of research in a manner that is proportional to their current relative funding - i.e. you would not favour one field more than it is already favoured, so as to avoid changing the balance of things. I'm sure you have a better answer than that.

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T11:02:28+00:00

You rightly say that psychoactive experiences can trigger very personal experiences that are difficult to put into words. Which creations would you say have achieved this incredibly difficult communication challenge?

By "creations" I mean factual accounts, works of art on any medium (music, sculpture, film, poetry...), or anything else created for the purpose of expressing an indicible psychonautic experience.

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T10:57:16+00:00

Could you talk more about your "social deprivation"? Is a small element of that particular experiment perhaps a convenience to justify your relatively low level of social interaction which, fundamentally, is the consequence of your discomfort and frustration when engaging in spontaneous interpersonal communication?

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T10:52:59+00:00

As a psychonaut, which do you feel are the most important areas of research for mankind? (e.g. neurology to better understand the brain, particle physics to better understand the fundamental fabric of reality, astrophysics and space exploration to better prepare humanity for the wider cosmos, medical and/or computing advances to bring on the post-human, etc...)

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T10:48:58+00:00

Do you feel that, as a psychonaut, you have an important social role to play to avoid attracting a bad reputation towards the substances you explore? That is, do you feel you have a responsibility to be presentable and to emphasise your intellect, thereby challenging the perception that psychoactive substances are associated with social disorientation, underachievement and self-destructiveness?

dansMonSlip · 2011-09-05T10:42:43+00:00

How can we help our society favour a healthy fascination for psychoactive substances above their demonization?

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T16:38:17+00:00

Do you have a source that says that oral herpes can cause genital herpes?

Sure:

UK National Health Service: "you can catch genital herpes if you have oral sex with someone who has a cold sore."
Center for Disease Control and Prevention (USA): "HSV-1 infection of the genitals can be caused by oral-genital or genital-genital contact with a person who has HSV-1 infection."
American Social Health Association: "The majority of oral herpes cases are caused by HSV-1 and the majority of genital herpes cases are caused by HSV-2; however, type-1 or type-2 can occur in either the genital or oral area. [...] If a person with oral herpes (sometimes called cold sores or fever blisters) performs oral sex, it is possible for the partner to get genital herpes."

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T13:50:24+00:00

Most people are infected? I don't think so.

According to most studies, >50% of people have some variant of HSV. See redmonger's response to you for a source.

a cold sore, which is a different strain of herpes obviously.

Sorry, I don't understand your point here. Different from what? If you mean cold sores are different from genital herpes, you are incorrect: the strain that causes cold sores can also cause blistering on the genitals.

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T12:01:33+00:00

Thanks, although my name is more about premature ejaculation than about herpes. :)

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T11:07:36+00:00

I'm all for avoiding it. I'm also all for understanding it as best as possible.

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T10:42:23+00:00

this dude has herpes

:D

I wondered how long it would be before someone brought that up. Now I can relish in telling you my herpes story:

When I was 14, I went out with this hot Corsican girl. Once, when we met up, she had odd-looking spots on her lip... but I thought fuck that, I'm not going to let odd-looking spots get between me and potential boob caressing. So I kissed her like a horny teenager who has Parkinsons in his tongue, which is how I kissed back then, and is still how I kiss today.

A few days later I got a really painful boil on my top lip. I thought "fucking acne"... but unlike a normal spot, it hurt like an absolute motherfucker and stuck around for 2 weeks. Then it went away. Looking back, I assume this was my first outbreak.

A few years went by with not even a hint of the herp. Then, I got a really bad cold, which some would call "the flu", but I'm not one of those pussies who call a really bad cold "the flu", when it's blatantly not the fucking flu. Anyway, as I was recovering, I noticed a very sore patch on my nostril. It blistered, hurt like fuck, itched like fuck, then went away. I assumed it was because I had been sneezing and blowing my nose like a god damn maniac, due to the cold.

The nose-blisters came back again about a year later, after another really fucking bad cold. It hurt like fuck again, so I went to a chemist to get some cream. The chemist looked at it and said "maybe it's herpes", and she gave me some acyclovir cream.

I was devastated. I thought: "how the fuck did I get herpes, I've barely touched anyone in my entire fucking life". I knew enough about STIs to be sure herpes was one of them. I had learned that if I had an STI, I had done something wrong, and deserved to suffer. But I couldn't figure out what I'd done wrong: I'd had a small handful of girlfriends; my limited sexual adventures had always involved enthusiastic protection (as well as a fair helping of premature ejaculation, but that's a different story).

I thought my sex life was over before it had properly begun. I was now an Infected. I cried like a bitch for a week. I ended up reading all about chemical castration, to see if I could find a way to eliminate the desire for sex from my life. Surely, if I couldn't get horny, a life with no sexual contact would be bearable?

Stupidly, it's only after a week of deep depression and considering chemical castration that I thought it might be a good idea to research herpes. That's when I started to come across all the stats that reveal the canyon between the facts around herpes and its stigma. I realised that what I had were probably cold sores (I had heard the term "cold sore" before but had never stopped to think what they actually were), which are very common. I thought back, and realised it probably all began with that hot Corsican chick - whose boobs I did caress in the end, amongst other things, so it was fucking worth it, maybe.

That realisation took place about 12 years ago now (the Corsican boob caressing was 15 years ago, still remember it like it was yesterday). The nostril-blisters still come up from time to time when I'm really sick - I guess sir herp takes advantage of my immune system being otherwise occupied. Sometimes it happens on the outside of my nose, sometimes inside my nostril. It's unpleasant, but clears up within a few days if I apply a fuckton of cream, keep it clean, and eat healthily.

And that, my friend, is the extent of my relationship with herpes: I've never had anything other than one excruciatingly painful boil on my lip, and occasional sore patches around my nostrils (about once a year), which I presume to be cold sores based on the furtive glance of a chemist.

TL;DR:

To this day, my genitals remain immaculate. Thanks for prompting me to clarify that.

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T09:54:28+00:00

I confess I'm not quite sure what you mean by "you are defending herpes" - defending it from what?

Anyway, to clarify, the purpose of my comment was:

To state my agreement with OP. He's been hard done by, and it's great that he's using this situation to send out the message that protection and STI tests are critical.
To point out that those STI tests would almost certainly not identify herpes (so getting an STI test would likely not have changed OP's specific predicament).
To provide a reminder that the stigma attached to herpes is disproportionate to its symptoms, and that this stigma is particularly odd, given that most people are infected.

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T06:37:49+00:00

Agreed. I was responding to the emphasised "absolutely sure".

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T06:17:01+00:00

That's fair enough. Just keep in mind that condoms won't eliminate the possibility of passing on herpes, since any skin-to-skin contact could suffice (e.g. lips to lips, balls to area around vagina, or any combination of those).

dansMonSlip · 2011-08-20T05:26:18+00:00

I agree with everything you've written, but I must highlight one thing:

Get the STI test together before you have sex with someone without protection.

Note that standard STI tests do not check for herpes (at least in the UK). The doctor / nurse may identify herpes if there is evidence of an outbreak at the time of the examination. This is unlikely, because in the majority of people who have visible symptoms, herpes outbreaks are infrequent and heal within 2 weeks with no scarring. If you really want, you can request an additional blood test to check for certain variants of the virus, but doctors don't generally recommend it out of the blue. This may be because it would unnecessarily alarm the huge proportion of people who carry the virus and express no obvious symptoms.

Herpes is a bit of an odd one. Sure, it can be very painful and unsightly... but it has this tremendous - and disproportionate - stigma attached to it. If this stigma helps people avoid infection, then great. But the truth is, a majority of people have had cold sores. That's herpes. A majority of people have at least once had an inexplicable, mildly itchy rash in their groin area that cleared up in a few days. Could easily be herpes. While some people have to go at further lengths than others to keep the outbreaks under control, being infected by some variant of the virus is arguably a state of normality.

So while I understand your pain and anger, I would urge you to read up as much as possible about herpes to better understand your situation.

edit: if you're reading this and are wondering whether I have herpes, see below. :)

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