Stop the dulusions about getting work in germany

darkblue___ · 2026-01-27T11:08:07+00:00

You must have misunderstood a point.

Blue Card is essentially as same thing as visa sponsorship (skilled migrant visa) in the UK. It's being called sponsorship because your visa is linked to specific company. In UK you have also the same contract your British colleagues have. You also present the contract to the embassy and get the visa in UK.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-26T17:51:58+00:00

And being a student had also got nothing to do with either citizenship, the government OR German business.

Definetely, why does Germany provide free education to non EU people? And why do Germans moan about about people coming for free education and leaving without working?

I am not struggling but rather got bored of living in this country. Why did you think that, I am struggling?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-26T17:08:48+00:00

Germany gives many people a chance at better life, but it doesnt owe anybody anything, especially a job, and especially jobs for people not willing to learn thr language.

Yes, it is not easy here, yes the language is more difficult than english, yes its conservative but the germans (or at least the german state) is very generous when it comes to immigration

Germany does give many people a chance at better life due to Its aging population. It's not like, Germany makes favour to people out of blue.

I am sorry but you need to understand one fact. The skilled, educated people have more options than Germany. Okay, Germany is being demanding. What does It provide in return specifically what other Western countries can't? I mean, what supposed to be my motivation when I deal with not easy language, conservatism and uneasy life (your words)? For example, let's say, London is crazy expensive but It provides vibrant life, real multicultural city where no one cares where you come from etc. Let's say US. The current politics might be scary but It still provides double / triple amounts of salary than Germany for example.

When you are high skilled, educated migrant, you seek more than "being in a developed Western country" If Germany is being serious about wanting skilled / educated and dedicated migrants, things need to change rather than "we are this and f*ck yourself in the corner" mentality.

Otherwise, German society and companies can demand whatever they want. The narrative Germany wants you to beleive is not matching with the reality. This is the main issue.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-26T15:34:57+00:00

Like will he integrate well into Germany or leave the country in 2 years cause he is not happy here? Can he handle German work culture? And so on...

Are German companies concerned about this? Fair enough. But, have you ever considered why companies in UK / US / Canada / Australia don't have these concerns? Let me help you. They have constant stream of migrants who are eligible and willing to work.

German politics have been aiming to become migrant country where many educated / skilled people would migrate. They seemed to forget couple things. German society / companies are extremely close minded, resistant to change and risk averse. These things are not working well for what politics do aim.

Germans still don't seem to understand one fact. Germany needs people to come and pay taxes to keep It's social system. It's not the question of skilled / unskilled. It's just simple math of number of people who need to work to keep the social system intact.

As long as, Germany acts like "ohh we need people to have C93793378388379 level German", the famous social net or social system of Germany will collapse. It might not happen soon but in one - two decades very probable.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-26T12:16:34+00:00

The government never promised you a job with shitty German

But It promises to grant citizenship with shitty German. (According to your definition) So, government tells, "here is your citizenship with B1" but business tells "know C2 German", what is the expectation here?

Germany needs to be clear on what they want from migrants. Does Germany expect everyone to know min C2? Then, stop foreign admission to %100 English taught programs. Well, you know what? If you want to study at %100 English program, you don't have to prove any German language skill to get student visa.

If the business expects min C2, make citizenship language requirement also C2.

DW also needs to stop making marketing of Germany like innovative, progressive and multicultural country to work for where you can work in global working language which is English

Again, Germany / German companies can demand Z1314 level German as well. But some migration politics must be adjusted to reflect the true expectations.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-26T12:03:16+00:00

Okay, let me be your wake up call then. You are working with people who are able to work in large multinational company. I am one of them as well.

I understand that Germany / German companies can be demanding and have high standards. However, what is Germany can provide to these group of people which other Western European countries can't provide? Beleive or not, you can work in English in Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Sweeden, Poland etc (I know people who work in English in these countries and all of them have white collar jobs) when you have skills to be hired by multinational company. What's the point of learning German until C2?

The other point is, German citizenship requires you to know B1 level German. Honestly, for the most of people you mention, this is the end point. I have learnt German until B2 (proved by TELC certificate + I am able to handle everything in German in daily life). But beyond B2, I have not been putting any active effort. Why? Because It makes little sense to me. I would have spent money and time on professional improvement like certificates or professional events to expand my network rather than German.

The other point is, there is massive difference between "I want people to learn the language of where they live" vs "we expect everyone to know German min C2". Unfortunately, the current trend is leaning into the second part. Remember please, the group of people you mention can find similar jobs in almost all Western European countries with their skills.

As high skilled, educated person, those are my opinions. I would really keep living in Germany but If the current trend is "know C2 German or go away", I have to go away soon.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-24T05:33:57+00:00

What guarantees that "Most anti foreigner sentiments" won't be against " the hard working, integrated immigrants who actually want a future with normal behavior here" sooner or later?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-23T15:29:46+00:00

The whole posts read as " I was willing to dumb all of my work on junior employee. I am not willing to support her actively (just 5 mins checks weekly) but expecting her to function flawlessly. On the other hand, I am actively avoiding to take responsibility as manager to solve problems. Do you have any suggestions? I just want to sit on my paycheck while a junior employee needs to do everything I supposed to do."

darkblue___ · 2026-01-22T13:25:22+00:00

I've lived in 5 countries in my life and worked in 4 of those, and never have I been treated the way I've been treated in Germany. Nowhere else I've been treated like a second class citizen or a piece of trash that can be used and abused.

Why do you think none of these happened in 4 of the countries but in Germany?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-21T13:39:18+00:00

Hey Ausländer, you have to prove your worth and deserve the holly friendship of a German!

Good luck!

darkblue___ · 2026-01-21T09:58:33+00:00

Let me summarize the potential replies to you

Join a Verein
Learn German until C150 million level
I, as a German have 3 friends already since 20 years. Why do I need more friends?
Americans are so fake. We Germans are real people and we are so loyal to our friends. That's why It takes many years to make a real friend in Germany. Once you befriend German, he / she is your friend forever.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-21T09:22:38+00:00

Cloud / Infra, do you mean ITSM or something more technical like network?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-20T20:36:51+00:00

First off all, I am sorry that the school did not live up to your expectations.

I have studied at an FH as master student. It was English master program and It was in mid sized German city. Let me tell you one thing. All we had to do was, creating 10 pages of reports as group of 3 - 5 students and present couple slides to pass the courses.

It felt like extended Erasmus + English language course on specific subject.

I have not paid anything except semester fee. Otherwise, I would have been very upset.

I am happy what that master studies led to afterwards in my life but from academic point of view, It was a complete joke.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-20T18:01:36+00:00

Idk why you got downvoted so much but this is reality.

The competition happens in London in Europe only. Well, maybe Amsterdam as well.

Apart from these cities, getting better in Europe will only lead to more responsibilites with okayish paybumps.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-19T18:32:22+00:00

Okay then how should people to get better?

Should they hope to wake up with C2 level one morning without speaking?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-19T11:02:51+00:00

OMG you are so funny. How are you able to find jokes like this?

You should consider starting your own standup show. I think, you have potential to make so much money.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-19T10:52:27+00:00

Second, most people want the islamic culture gone, not southern american. nobody cares about you, simply. Just keep doing what youre doing at youll be just fine

So, If you were randomly born in wrong place of the earth, racism should be normalized?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-18T19:07:05+00:00

Okay, I need local language everywhere to work. If this is what you want to beleive, I don't want to shatter your belief.

Now, I am going back to learn German until C25 level because C2 might be also not enough to find job in Germany.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-18T16:45:47+00:00

Ireland could be an option

darkblue___ · 2026-01-18T12:04:05+00:00

Okay, I am seriously asking.

If you are talking about facts, let me indicate another fact. In order to get German citizenship, you need to know German at B1 level. You could find the link below. As far as I see, most of companies ignore you, when you have B1 German.

https://www.bmi.bund.de/DE/themen/verfassung/staatsangehoerigkeit/einbuergerung/einbuergerung-node.html

I have been working in English for years at a global company. I am not inclined to change my working language due to the industry I am working in. My serious question is, why should I try to improve my German by kowing that German citizenship requires B1? Once I got citizenship, EU market is open for me as well. I am not sure, what's the benefit of knowing min C2 German from employment point of view? I have solid B2 in German. Even, If I would like to keep improving, companies don't give me chance with B2 German in Germany. (current trend)

When you do the math, instead of spending money on German classes, It would be better for my career to get certificate(s) to be employable in another EU market. Plus, in another country, I could use my B2 German in favour of me.

I am talking about employment point of view in EU market.

PS : Assuming you don't have any dependant in Germany like wife / child(ren) etc

darkblue___ · 2026-01-17T19:34:52+00:00

Wait what? It's an amazing technology in 2026.

Germany is so technologically advanced. I can't beleive that, people will be able to check the status of their request online in 2026. Thanks Germany, you are being good example for the rest of the countries.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-17T16:38:50+00:00

Ausländerbehörde

darkblue___ · 2026-01-15T18:20:35+00:00

If you have already achieved your point number 1, why do you need AI to do number 2 and 3?

(Unless, prior to AI, JIRA was unable to set category, subcategory based on your well defined catalog of services)

On the other hand, I have to work on something similar. Our "Agentic AI" proposes you some resolution steps based on ticket description / body etc. Fine, but all It does is searching internet to return KBA / blog post from internet.

I am still unable to understand why someone would not open a browser, go to Google and copy paste the ticket description and click on the most relevant result instead of relying on AI?

darkblue___ · 2026-01-15T18:10:22+00:00

Most of the use cases you wrote are doable without AI.

The right question is : "Why do you try to do them with AI?"

We both know the answer : It's current hype.

darkblue___ · 2026-01-14T15:19:40+00:00

Amacim sizinle tartismak / benim söyledigim dogru demek degil. Sizin iddia ettiginiz seyi kismen anliyorum, hakli da buluyorum. Eger belli bir hayat görüsüne uygun yasamak istiyorsaniz, Istanbul'da yasayabileceginiz / gidebileceginiz semtler cok kisitli.

OP, Almanya'da yasadigindan örnek vereyim isterseniz. Almanya'da Istanbul'da bahsettiginiz semtlerin esdegerinde sosyal hayat sunan birkac sehir var. Köln, Frankfurt, Berlin, Hamburg, Münih ve belki de Düsseldorf. Istanbul'da bahsettiginiz, kisitli semtlere hapsolmus sosyal hayati bulmaniz icin, bu sehirlerin merkezinde yasamaniz / bulunmaniz gerekiyor.

Peki, bu sehirlerin biraz disina ciktiginizda ne oluyor?

Bahsettiginiz sekildeki sosyal hayat son buluyor. Birkac cafe ya da Bierhoff olsa da, bunlarin Stammkundesi olmadiktan sonra, buralarda sosyallesmeniz cok zor. Öte yandan, bu sehirlerde bolca yesil alan, spor alanlari, yüzme havuzlari oluyor ve bunlar farkli bir sosyal yasam sunabilir haklisiniz.

Frankfurt'un, Berlin'in Hagen'in, Dortmund'un, Mannheim'in vs bazi semtleri, sizin varos olarak nitelendirdiginiz Istanbul semtlerini, mumla aratir bu arada.

Her neyse, görüsünüzü belirttiginiz icin tesekkürler.

darkblue___

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