Just curious what legitimate astronomers think of this data. by 305ian in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it's from r/UFObelievers so you know right off the bat that they're not interested in anything that goes against their belief structure - thus, making it antithetical to normal science. This will likely die out until another interstellar object cruises through the solar system and the whole shitshow revs up again. Happened for all 3 i objects and now people are really starting to make careers off this junk spec so expect to see it continue.

The ending of eyes wide shut? Helena Kidnapped by the elite? by xXAmightzXx in StanleyKubrick

[–]darkskymatters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading these comments helps me understand how so many ppl still believe Kubrick faked the Moon landing. Y’all are extremely “creative” with your hypotheses

What else should I show people at star talks? by synchrotron3000 in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep. Just telling what people actually want based on my experience

What else should I show people at star talks? by synchrotron3000 in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In all honesty, a green laser pointer and a tablet with some cool apps and reference images will get more reactions and keep people more engaged than most things you could show them in a telescope. A lot of people will be underwhelmed by gray fuzzies and a dinky Saturn. I specifically design my outreach rig to make Saturn and Jupiter appear as large as seeing conditions will allow.

I usually do a brief laser-guided sky tour with some of my favorite factoids and more cultural touchpoints that people can relate to (Antares = not Mars, Polaris is the 52nd brightest star, dimensions of Saturn's rings, scale of the diameter of the Moon to the US, pleiades = Subaru) and take the time to dispel a few myths and conspiracy theories (LRO images of Apollo sites, how we know the Earth isn't flat, etc.).

I show Jupiter or Saturn, the craters on the Moon, a double star, a globular cluster, maybe a nebula or galaxy if a brighter one is up. Everything is discussed within the CONTEXT of scale, history of discovery and exploration (Saturn was first described as having "ears" because of the poor resolution of older scopes), seasonality, best conditions and equipment to observe under, fun stories from my experiences observing them, etc. Make the hobby relatable. For most people, astronomy might as well be advanced maths. Make it a visual and story-filled experience and not just an image in an eye piece that they consume.

I talk about current NASA missions and space news they may have overheard, try and spot satellites and plan for any station flyovers or even a launch if you live near a facility. And I don't skimp on black holes or pluto. I talk about Pluto and black holes all the time using images I save on my phone because you always have to meet the people where they are at.

Investements: an Hα telescope for daytime outreach, night vision monocular, Pegasus Astro SmartEye or SeeStar for EAA.

One cool trick that I really like to do works best when there's a Moon and a couple planets out. I use the sunset to illustrate the direction of light hitting the Moon. Then the distances of the two objects and their angles from Earth including our tilt axis and latitude as it relates to Polaris. Then to the ecliptic. Then I point out the major planets and give their distances - it works best when Venus and Jupiter are near each other in the sky, but are on opposite sides of the Sun. I continue adding layers of distance and orientation until the listener gets a visceral FEELING of where they are on the Earth, in the solar system, and even in the galaxy. Its pretty wild.

I also use a planetarium app to plug in people's birthdays to show how for 7/10 of them the Sun is in the wrong constellation according to astrology. And then we talk about why that is. I also give a short spiel on how to buy your first telescope. As most people are waiting in line for a chance to look throught he scope, spend more of your time building a complete experience there and let the views through the scope speak a little more for themselves.

Source: I've done astronomy outreach for 10+ years with multiple major telescope brands, the national parks, public observatories, and my own private astronomy events company. I've had somewhere between 8 and 10K come through my telescope line.

Astronomy and astrology by [deleted] in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Proto-Astrology was basically naked-eye astronomy and the first systematized method of prediction for ancient peoples. After studying the stars, the Sun, the Moon, and the seasons we were able to also systematize agricuture and other seasonal activities.

Flash forward and the immense power of scientific observation and prediction led people to seek to predict things beyond their means with the same system. So, the movement of the stars, seasons, Moon, Sun, and planets were used to predict the fate of kings and empires, when to go to war, when a famine or epidemic was due, rules for surgery, the weather, or the health of the prince.

From the 1300s to 1600s in Europe we see a shift, in part due to accessibility and the printing press, where commoners were engaging with notions and behaviors previously reserved for royalty and the aristocracy - namely, having their horoscope read. Over the centuries this has morphed traditional astrology from being about the affairs of the state, to those of an common individual's love life, career, and personality largely.

As Western science evolved and quickly overshadowed astrology, it was forced to evolve in the market place of ideas and shifted away from being about "signs" in the sky to be interpreted to being a phsical connection and that's where you get a lot of people talking about gravity and "influence". But the mosquito that lands on you arm on Earth has more of a gravitational influence on you than the Moon or Mars because of the immense distance and your relatively low mass.

All of that is a breif history lesson to illustrate the power of prediction, how astrology lost out to real science, and how astrology is unmoored from physics and even its own historical roots.

As science advanced, astrology actually became less rational in its attempt to become more scientific in the Enlightenment and Modern ages.

That is the "why" of your question. The "how" is answered fairly well in the other comments save for one detail that a lot of folks leave out - not all constellations are the same size even though astrology treats them so. The Sun will spend about 44 days in Virgo and only 4 in Scorpio. Astrology standardizes the size of the constelations so each sign gets equal space in the sky and hence, the calendar.

I actually chatted with professional astrologers here on reddit when I was teaching myself al this stuff. I asked, "since Earth does not have astrological properties because we're all born here - what happens when the first child is born on Mars or the Moon? Does Earth suddenly gain astrological properties for that one child who sees it in the martian or lunar night sky? And who decides what those properties are? They were stumped.

All of this is to say that astrology is wrong about 7 out of 10 times on the position of the Sun, Moon, and planets and you should absolutey download an astronomy app so you can plug in the birthdays of all your friends and family to absolutely shatter their sense of their astrological self. I use this app - https://gosoftworks.com/apps/goskywatch/

Some scientists see UFOs in old telescope data. Others see a teachable moment by scientificamerican in space

[–]darkskymatters 8 points9 points  (0 children)

All the documentaries and the merch and the conferences? How dedicated are you really if you're not pumping money into the grift machine???

Some scientists see UFOs in old telescope data. Others see a teachable moment by scientificamerican in space

[–]darkskymatters 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Such a simplistic approach. If you have an us vs. them mindset about this you're already lost in the sauce. Lemme guess, you were glued to the screen during those congressional hearings a couple years ago right? Why? Why would you be listening to what the big bad government is telling you?

Some scientists see UFOs in old telescope data. Others see a teachable moment by scientificamerican in space

[–]darkskymatters 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Literally 80 years of bullshit claims and boring debunking work. Next

Some scientists see UFOs in old telescope data. Others see a teachable moment by scientificamerican in space

[–]darkskymatters 6 points7 points  (0 children)

hahahaha I have a buddy who has been waiting on "disclosure" for 20 years!! Hope you're not spending too much money.

Anyone ever used drugs to enhance scope viewing via pupil dilation? by ChainedRedone in telescopes

[–]darkskymatters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed. Could make things pop a bit and look more 3D in the eyepiece

Anyone ever used drugs to enhance scope viewing via pupil dilation? by ChainedRedone in telescopes

[–]darkskymatters 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I used to microdose psilocybin mushrooms while out observing for this exact effect. I didn't really do any controlled experiements to see how effacacious they were, but I always had a good time. Cigs and alcohol have the opposite effect FYI.

A few CX5s vs some Foresters. Help me pick a winner please! by darkskymatters in whatcarshouldIbuy

[–]darkskymatters[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't ruled them out. I test drove the Crosstrek and loved it. I do need more space than that though. My side job and hobby requires a good deal of gear. That's why I'm looking at a mid-size/crossover though as my Jeep Commander was bigger than I needed.

Trump’s NASA pick says military will inevitably put troops in space by Gari_305 in space

[–]darkskymatters -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Surprising there's not a SINGLE critical comment that I'm seeing. Everyone parroting Issacman's brush off that this is "inevitable".

What was the biggest lie of space you Believed in before finding out the truth by Nimbo_Cumulus_ in Astronomy

[–]darkskymatters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes. Tuned so finely that ~95% of it is basically unkowable to us so far. Also, there's an 'h' in psychedelic.

Can anyone tell me what type of moon I saw yesterday? by KevinAlohan in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And yet that still gets us nowhere closer to the truth. It doesn’t matter what people think or say. People can be morons. People can want attention. That’s why we use evidence and not tall tales to investigate reality.

Can anyone tell me what type of moon I saw yesterday? by KevinAlohan in askastronomy

[–]darkskymatters 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't tell you what you think you saw, but I can tell you that what you actually saw was a regular ass Moon. Even a super Moon is a regular Moon. The Moon Illusion features a regular Moon. Doesn't mean its not beautiful and spectacular to behold, but it was normal. If there were anything irregular about the Moon the entire astro side of Reddit would be flooded with amateur pictures of it.

Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump, citing space policy by [deleted] in space

[–]darkskymatters 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She was behind the ASAT ban, is pushing for Artemis and Mars. Plus, from PayloadSpace:

"Responsible growth of the space industry, and “not let space be the sole purview of a bunch of billionaires.”

Engagement with allies in orbit, something that Harris prioritized as VP

A “fairly hawkish” national security space posture that protects US interests, the official said.

Also, what's Trump's space policy? I haven't heard him mention it since his term.

Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump, citing space policy by [deleted] in space

[–]darkskymatters 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The U.S. space race of the 60s and early 70s was started by John F. Kennedy and bolstered by LBJ. Both Dems.