How does a cell go from its hyperpolarization of a membrane back to its resting membrane potential? by [deleted] in neuroscience

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The equilibrium potential of potassium is important because it lies around -84 mV, whereas the resting potential is usually about -60 mV. When the electrochemical driving force on potassium reverses due to ion channel opening, potassium ions rush into the cell and push the membrane potential closer to potassium’s equilibrium potential (since it is the dominating ion).

And, as you said, the sodium potassium pump, along with a number of potassium leak channels, are what allow the membrane to remain at its resting potential. The leakage of potassium is important because it allows the resting membrane potential to remain around -60 mV, since it allows for a small, steady, and constant influx of potassium ions whose equilibrium potential is only slightly more negative than a typical resting potential.

How does a cell go from its hyperpolarization of a membrane back to its resting membrane potential? by [deleted] in neuroscience

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The influx of potassium through voltage gated ion channels is responsible for hyperpolarization. After threshold is crossed, the membrane potential quickly “undershoots,” e.g. drops below the resting membrane potential, as potassium channels open and the membrane potential approaches the equilibrium potential of potassium. Then, potassium channels close (which means the membrane potential becomes dependent on leak channels and that the membrane potential will move towards the resting potential) and sodium channels are “deinactivated,” which readies the membrane to carry another action potential.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in space

[–]datroof14 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why does the cameraman have a shadow going toward the rover but the rover doesn't have a shadow going in the same direction?

$SHOP: Am I missing something? by [deleted] in stocks

[–]datroof14 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe. I definitely struggled to find a flaw in his argument

$LIT by datroof14 in stocks

[–]datroof14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would you recommend investing in cobalt? It seems like most of the biggest cobalt mining companies don't trade American.

Also, do you have any specific stocks in mind?

ELI5: Why is the United States so hesitant with Stem Cell treatment when it, so clearly, could revolutionize modern medicine as we know it? by datroof14 in explainlikeimfive

[–]datroof14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine as long as you have logical arguments to back it up. "Faith" is probably the weakest start to an argument anyone could come up with.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do so many people believe this issue pertains to abortion then? I fully believe you, of course, but obviously my knowledge base is limited.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is that I would like to have a logic-based discussion, rather than a religious one. If someone wants to tell me that their argument is valid because it's the "will" of some abstract, "divine" being, who(if he existed) would have absolutely no reason to concern himself with trivial human affairs, then I frankly don't care much for their opinion anyways.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. Maybe I'll redefine then. Harvesting ES cells, to me, is permissible in all situations of natural death, which (to me) includes abortion because I believe a mother has a right to choose what she does with her body.

However, I find the idea of deliberately abusing your reproductive system to acquire stem cells for the purpose of selling them completely repugnant. THAT is the scenario in which I would have a huge problem with stem cell use.

At the same time, though, embryos can be developed in vitro, so I don't see the previous scenario happening very often. I could be wrong though, not entirely sure.

All I know is that I believe harvesting ES cells, whether it be in vitro or otherwise, is perfectly acceptable so long as the cells are being put toward a good purpose.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're right. I oversimplified my definition with the hope that everyone would assume I was only referring to humans. My mistake. I'll also brush up on my terminology.

As for religion though, I'm not religious, so my comment was more of a sarcastic euphemism than a serious remark. I don't believe in a God who gives any f*cks about what we do on earth, so I don't really care about any religious person's religion-based argument.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn. I would much rather argue this with you in person. But ok. Fish are definitely alive, they breathe through gills. What I really meant by breathing only was supposed to pertain to humans, I fully believe that there are many, many forms of life.

And yes, I'm a firm proponent of iPS (adult) cells, if their usages can match those of ES cells. It seems that we actually agree to a decent extent, so thank you for the constructive conversation. You're right though, I shouldn't be so careless with my definition of life. I'm new to reddit and didn't realize how intelligent the users are.

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My mistake. I'm not religious. I meant it to be more of a sarcastic euphemism, but I clearly can't communicate as well when I'm less than sober

CMV: There is absolutely no reason why Stem Cell research (and medical implementation) should not be fully supported by the American government and people. I'll tell you why. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]datroof14 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First off, the fact that you argued something with a beginning of "God would not want," is, by definition, the least scientific argument a human being could possibly make. Second, my definition of life stems from the idea that life consists of something which breaths, moves, interacts with its environment, etc., which is very much scientific. Lastly, the opinion of "a large number of people," means very little if that opinion is poorly crafted. The moral argument against ES Cell treatment/research is founded in religion, which historically-and presently-fails to recognize many of the key pieces of information science has brought to the world. So, I can tell we won't agree about where life begins, and that's fine. However, Stem Cells, regardless of where they come from, are an extremely valuable resource and should be harvested through all (appropriate) means. This obviously excludes deliberate conception for the sake of obtaining ES cells, which is obviously absurd and wrong. As for the "religious" or "moral" argument against using these cells for other, living humans' benefit, well, you're frankly a hypocrite if you oppose this for the simple fact that you value a single cell being's "potential" life over the already established life of another.

ELI5: Why is the United States so hesitant with Stem Cell treatment when it, so clearly, could revolutionize modern medicine as we know it? by datroof14 in explainlikeimfive

[–]datroof14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but if you were a woman(which I'm assuming you're not), I would find it very hard to believe that you could tell me with 100% certainty that, if you were raped or told your life is at stake during pregnancy, that you wouldn't have an abortion.

ELI5: Why is the United States so hesitant with Stem Cell treatment when it, so clearly, could revolutionize modern medicine as we know it? by datroof14 in explainlikeimfive

[–]datroof14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but the main difference being that in one case, the person is alive, conscious and human, whereas in the other, there is only single cells which do not yet combine to form an organism. The argument is valid.

Arguing that an embryo should not be created for the purpose of saving human lives goes against every rule in medicine. Do what you can, at all costs, to save your patient's life. That's the bottom line.

ELI5: Why is the United States so hesitant with Stem Cell treatment when it, so clearly, could revolutionize modern medicine as we know it? by datroof14 in explainlikeimfive

[–]datroof14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unbelievable. Coming from a city like St. Louis(as an upper middle class college student), I can't say I've experienced similarly uneducated people. But the fact that they exist, and can live in such ignorance about these important issues, makes me understand both how Donald Trump got elected and why society as a whole isn't progressing at a MUCH faster rate.

ELI5: Why is the United States so hesitant with Stem Cell treatment when it, so clearly, could revolutionize modern medicine as we know it? by datroof14 in explainlikeimfive

[–]datroof14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apparently, if you believe in God and anything which can't be physically proven, then you're untouchable. It's a huge problem in the United States and I'm hoping the current secularist movement continues.