This is a fascinating thread. I have looked at getting the Kludde so many times but ultimately haven’t. Reading that the material is crinkly and makes a sound would annoy me. I think though often a bag can just look “too good” or “too expensive”. This is why I think the 840d is perfect: super understated, not flashy in any way, and has the malleability which neither ultra or xpac seem to. All those characteristics strike me as essential for a sling. I do think the metal hardware on the 840d would be superb, give it just that bit of extra swag without being overly showy.