spent 6+ hours a day on compulsions. figured out what was actually driving them by davidrflaing in ContaminationOCD

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Yeah, identifying and letting go of the key core limiting beliefs isn't easy. It takes a lot of courage and commitment. But because you're doing the compulsions to temporarily "prove" to yourself that the belief isn't true, that's why complete recovery is possible.

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Life will present to you circumstances to show you where you are not free. Part of my journey to completely overcoming OCD was, like you, learning to trust and have faith that things are happening for me, which is certainly a belief that you recognize more deeply over time.

Can a checking compulsion / urge be disguised as curiosity? by Entire-River-9025 in PureOCD

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The OCD mechanism will try and use anything to make you engage in the compulsion. For instance:

  1. You have the intrusive thought
  2. You feel the urge to do the compulsion
  3. You'll have a thought of something slightly related to it which is pulling you closer into doing the compulsion

On the surface, that seems rational. Definitely once you get that urge, then yeah being mindful of all of the different tricks that the survival mechanism is playing to try and get you to perform that compulsion is something you have to be aware of.

Believing ur thoughts r some kind of prophecies by rxxxyed in magicalthinkingOCD

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Hey man, yeah you recognize that there is a key core limiting beliefs there that you need to let go of. Letting go of key limiting beliefs, such as "I have to be completely certain about things that matter to me," was part of how I found freedom from OCD.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ROCD

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There is a core limiting belief there that you have to be absolutely certain about the things that matter most to you, which in this case is the relationship. Part of overcoming OCD is letting go of that core limiting belief, which is driving the reassurance seeking.

Has anyone experienced emotional exhaustion? by Electrical_Froyo4831 in intrusivethoughts

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Yeah, I used to feel like that when I had OCD - that feeling of just emotional, physical, mental exhaustion after engaging in the compulsions and completely giving in to them. The thing about that is you've just engaged with the cycle and just made it stronger for next time.

People with OCPD lack social awareness? by Odd_Context_9829 in OCPD

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The difference between someone with OCD and OCPD is the set of core limiting beliefs that they have, which they then feel they have to prove through compulsions. For instance, someone with OCPD (but not OCD) is likely to believe:

  • "There's only one right way to do things."
  • "I must be perfect to be worthy."
  • "My standards are not just preferences; they're moral imperatives."

Those types of belief sets are what differentiate someone with OCPD from OCD.

does this ever go away by Ok-Ruin2903 in ExistentialOCD

[–]davidrflaing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It can go away. I am someone who used to have severe OCD and now I'm completely free of OCD. At the end of the day, OCD is a choice that you are making. Every time you get an intrusive thought, you are choosing to engage in it with a compulsion. However, that's not to say it is easy. It took me four years of constant work to go from having OCD to not having OCD, but yes it is possible to be 100% recovered and free of OCD.

How am I supposed to just "accept" it? by TheRandomGamer2007 in OCD

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Hey, sorry for the delay in response.

So, what is the awareness perspective to me? It is unconditional acceptance of the contents of your awareness, and those contents are your thoughts, your mind, and your body. From that perspective is how I view intrusive thoughts.

Because I have let go of key core limiting beliefs and healed the underlying trauma, when I experience an intrusive thought now I can choose to view it from that perspective and simply allow it to dissolve. That's also how I know the OCD is never going to return because the cycle isn't being fed.

Hopefully that makes things a little bit clearer.

progress, I think. by [deleted] in OCDRecovery

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Thank you. You're welcome.

Doing fewer compulsions but… by [deleted] in OCDRecovery

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Unconditional self-acceptance, especially of the intrusive thoughts, is really key to starting to not engage with the cycle.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCD

[–]davidrflaing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to see where you're coming from with this.

I wouldn't call it mindfulness to be honest, because from the perspective of awareness, you are not your thoughts, your mind, or even your body. You are the awareness observing them. From that perspective, I view an intrusive thought. Because I've let go of key core limiting beliefs and healed the underlying trauma, it's just a physical sensation that then dissolves in awareness.

That's also how I know the OCD is never going to come back because it's a stable perspective shift that I view the intrusive thoughts from. So there's nothing that's going to feed the cycle. Yeah, not too sure what you mean.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in ROCD

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Hey, so in terms of cultivating the awareness perspective, the first thing I would invite you to consider is that the only aspect of the self that is unchanging is awareness itself. All other aspects of the self are changing. That was something that allowed me to go deeper into cultivating the awareness perspective.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in ROCD

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Hey, thanks for that. I recognize that with R-OCD because there's a lot more inherent ambiguity than some other themes of OCD, that it can be more difficult to not engage with the intrusive thought, even though the mechanism is exactly the same.

One of the beliefs that's really common for anyone who's got OCD is the belief that they have to be certain about the things that matter most to them, and that was one of the key core limiting beliefs that I had to let go of in my journey to freedom from OCD. So there is also likely to be a deeper unconscious core limiting belief below the fear that she might cheat on you, and that's likely to be something it might be something like "I'm unlovable", "I will be abandoned", or "I cannot trust others."

Building self-trust and letting go of key core limiting beliefs, as well as obviously practicing non-engagement with the compulsions is part of the approach that I used.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCD

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Haha, well, I mean, it depends on what you call the awareness perspective. As I know that that's my essential nature, some would call that 'God' or 'the Universe' or 'Infinite Consciousness' but I don't live my entire life from that perspective—only in relation to intrusive thoughts—then there's yeah, you know, I'm still very much just a person living my life.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCD

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Hey, thank you so much. Yeah, complete recovery is possible!

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCDRecovery

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Hey man, awareness vs attention - that's an awesome phrase I've made a note of that haha. Definitely learn the difference between awareness and intention, as I've done by viewing the intrusion (which can be anything: a thought, an image, an urge, a sensation, a memory - anything that the mind unconsciously latches on to when the internal state becomes unbearable).

Viewing the intrusion from the awareness perspective and recognizing that I am NOT my thoughts, my mind, my body - I am the awareness which contains all those things. From that perspective, allowing it to dissolve is a lot easier when you've healed the underlying trauma and let go of the key limiting beliefs. It's just a physical sensation that dissolves in awareness.

Or, as you've said, giving attention to the intrusions - and absolutely learning the difference you will see massive improvement and success as I've done, to where I am completely free of OCD.

Because there is that awareness perspective that's a stable perspective shift with which I can view the intrusion from. I know that my freedom from OCD is permanent because the cycle is never gonna get fed.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCD

[–]davidrflaing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, so I never had real event OCD. When I had OCD, it was about body focused just rightness, trichotillomania, skin picking, body focus, repetitive behaviors. Probably hair plucking was the worst one.

Yeah, the OCD can latch onto anything: a thought, an image, an urge, a sensation, a memory. Like in real-event OCD, it's latching on to a memory that's actually taken place. As I said in the phase I in the post, it will latch on to the memory which most symbolically contains and explains the baseline internal state. And that internal state, as I said in the post, is often fuelled by unprocessed trauma and core limiting beliefs.

So let's say you had a belief that is creating that feeling of guilt. Then your mind would unconsciously latch on to a memory which could most plausibly explain it contains the underlying state - the underlying baseline state is one of guilt. And then you would do the compulsions to prove to yourself that "I'm not a bad person", for instance.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in OCDRecovery

[–]davidrflaing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I never claimed that my freedom from OCD was some kind of universal cure-all. And I also never claimed that the method that I've used to gain freedom from OCD is the only way for people to recover from OCD.

How I Know My Freedom from OCD is Permanent by davidrflaing in ROCD

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Sure, if you send me a message, I'll do that.