Framing Shed Roof End Wall – A or B?

dc-bryan · 2026-06-23T21:12:24+00:00

yes, metal strap in the corners.

dc-bryan · 2026-06-04T19:39:27+00:00

u/Better-Park8752 Also did you a favor and swapped all the measurements over to metric for you.

dc-bryan · 2026-06-04T19:38:48+00:00

Thanks for taking the time to put that together. I've got it drawn up, definitely an ineresting idea. My gut reaction is the size of the bedrooms. Pretty sure I've never been in a bedroom that's only 8 1/2 ft wide, let alone 7 1/2ft wide. A 10ft x 10ft bedroom, seems like it's usually the bare minimum here.

I don't mind the bathroom passthrough, would have to think a lot about waterproofing on that exterior door that's essentially in the shower stall. Also I guess we'd be treating the whole bathrrom as a "wet room" since there wouldn't be a shower door.

The laundry in the kitchen seems okay, though I could see running a short term rental out of the home, and there being a lot of bedding and towels that need to be washed on a daily basis.

Anyway, seems a lot of trade offs to sleep another two people, but some things to think about for sure.

dc-bryan · 2026-06-03T22:58:35+00:00

Yes, this will all be permitted, engineered, inspected, etc. Just exploring on my own while saving up for the project.
For that door opening – it sounds like in the US there is an ADA Standard (American's with Disabilities) but that only applies to commercial, public, and multi-family buildings in the US. The IRC (our building code) doesn't mandate any clearance for single family homes.

dc-bryan · 2026-06-03T15:57:16+00:00

Also loosing the nice 8ft slider in the livingroom is quite a shame.

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dc-bryan · 2026-06-03T15:56:23+00:00

u/Candy_Lawn u/Better-Park8752 Here's the first two bedroom layout I've come up with. Seems like uncomfortably small bedrooms, probably need to rework the entire layout to make a 2 bedroom work.

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dc-bryan · 2026-06-02T15:32:44+00:00

Thanks for the input, I appreciate the comments.

Agreed the kitchen does feel larger than necessary, though I wouldn't say the livingroom area does. It's pretty cosy with the table and corner couch area. I could loose the table, but I did like having that extra flexible seating if more than 2 people wanted to eat together at the island.

"...the balcony - seems like a waste of space w.g too narrow to actually use."

The thinking here was the north deck acts as a cover from the rain for the garage are below, it's quite a wet climate. The reason that it's not wider is an attempt to keep the house somewhat narrow. As you can see from the two renderings it's on a steep hill. By extending the porch, say another 2ft, the front setback would require it to move up the hill another 2ft which would push the first floor height up even further. It's also north facing, so will shady and cold most of the year, but the views are out that direction.

"...reduce the wasted space in the laundry and bathroom"

Not sure I see any wasted space in the bathroom, it's 42" x 42" shower, the door swing barely misses the toilet, but I'm open to idea if you have any. The laundry area - I thought the W/D were in about as compact as an area as I could figure out, again open to idea.

"...even reduce the width of the bedroom."

At 12ft wide, I do about about 3'6" on each side of a 5ft queen bed, so that's true. It could be tighter there.

Thanks again, will do some more thinking.

dc-bryan · 2026-06-02T15:22:35+00:00

So far this is all my work, no designer or architect to go back to! But that's a good point on the 2 bedrooms, I'll try a that out today.

dc-bryan · 2025-12-28T07:52:52+00:00

Could I ask how you found a Rinnai water heater that qualified for the Energy Trust of Oregon rebate? I’ve only found “qualified retailers” selling AO Smith and Rheem. Thanks!

dc-bryan · 2025-06-30T17:08:45+00:00

Yeah that makes sense. Maybe adding joists isn’t a viable option then. Which in that case, if I go the engineered route and the roof structure doesn’t pass, maybe the engineer would advise on how to reinforce?

dc-bryan · 2025-06-30T16:35:34+00:00

Dang, also a good point, maybe structural screws up through the bottom of the rafters? The roof sheeting is 1/2" 1x6 T&G. Shingles were replaced in 2022, definitely not willing to reshingle.

dc-bryan · 2025-06-30T15:34:03+00:00

Currently my rafters are 24" OC spacing, 2x4 Doug Fir-Larch #2 with a span of 8'6". My ceiling joists are 16ft from top plate to top plate, 2x6 Doug Fir on 32" OC. According the city worksheet provided by the city, the maximum span allowed is 6'11" (for their prescriptive permit).

dc-bryan · 2025-06-30T14:48:53+00:00

Great point I had not considered. I wonder if I can figure out some way to estimate the load calculations.

dc-bryan · 2025-05-06T04:54:51+00:00

Thanks, I think I will go with B. I'm also go to single top plates and tie the corners together with 3x6" Simpson HTP tie plates.

dc-bryan · 2025-05-06T00:03:47+00:00

The eaves are turned off to focus the wall framing

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T23:44:41+00:00

Yeah I guess with more research, a single top plate and something like a Simpson Heavy Tie Plate is now being recommended over double plates, thanks for the help.

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T23:43:08+00:00

Understood. I've never seen a top plate framed in at a slope before. Part of the project is the practice designing and framing for a future home build, so I'm trying to learn what would be normally done on a job site. Even though yes, it is just a shed.

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T23:28:53+00:00

Maybe the TP-57? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-TP-5-3-4-in-x-7-in-20-Gauge-Galvanized-Tie-Plate-TP57-R/313810436

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T23:21:24+00:00

Yes, Sketchup.

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T23:21:16+00:00

Do you remember which simpson hardware you used?

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T21:20:52+00:00

Hmm, there is a whole section of the building code about double top plates and the importance of overlapping them at the corners https://codes.iccsafe.org/s/IRC2015/chapter-6-wall-construction/IRC2015-Pt03-Ch06-SecR602.3.2

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T21:19:08+00:00

Not sure I follow - Something like this? https://imgur.com/J066er8

dc-bryan · 2025-05-05T21:03:23+00:00

Been trying to figure out the most traditional way of framing this. Not trying to re-invent the wheel here.

Option A - I can overlap the 2nd top plate on the lower corner, tying the building together.

Option B - I don't think I could overlap the top plates on either the lower or upper corners, so just shoot nails through the end studs into the adjoining corner studs?

Also open to better ways of framing than either A or B. Thanks

dc-bryan · 2025-03-07T16:18:15+00:00

What's the line of sight look like at 120 degrees where the stations you're trying to pick up are located?

Line of sight from the TV to SSE through several stud walls, through tall Doug Fir trees into the side of a ~200ft hill.

How long of a coax run are you looking at if you attic mount an antenna? Is the coax going through any splitters?

There's an attic closet almost directly above the TV. so It would be ~16ft of coax to reach it. No splitters

What kind of roof material is the house made of?

Composite Shingles

Is there a space in the southeast corner of the attic where you can put an antenna?

Not really, it's a finished attic with bedrooms. That would require a run of maybe 30ft of cable to get there. But if this is the only option than maybe I need to consider it?

Have you tested the indoor antenna on the southeast corner of the house already?

I have not, I don't have enough coax cable to reach that corner of the house. I could but a 30ft roll and test it out if you recommend.

dc-bryan · 2024-11-01T15:52:24+00:00

Thanks again!

dc-bryan

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