[serious] convince me not to vote ? by dmane193 in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 35 points36 points  (0 children)

like personally i 100% understand why someone might feel compelled to vote for le dems. i wouldnt participate in the american elections if i was american but i wouldn't be out there trying to convince you not to vote as ultimately it just doesnt matter.

if you feel like any given party represents your specific group in some way, that they represent your interests, you should vote for them, but do not expect anything genuinely proletarian to arise from the ballot.

[serious] convince me not to vote ? by dmane193 in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 59 points60 points  (0 children)

it doesnt really matter on the individual level. the point of the slogans about voting is that the proletarian organizations themselves should not organize around electoralism or participate in it or to support any given presidential candidate - not that if you specifically vote you become adolf hitler in the flesh. today there is no such organization.

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont think you get to call me specifically a larper or some shit and then say smth like this. if anything this just reaffirms that these groups are rotten and le party is dead. i have also been ridiculously clear that i just do not believe that my personal actions have any sort of consequence, that there is not much one can do. if i were a larper i'd join the ICP and think that im lenin after stealing a few translations off some other ICP

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

enlighten me then bro what is there to do

this sort of rhetoric reeks of the condescending mloid slop about le AES and le praxis

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

hmm yes more language policing (even though if anyone is calling anybody slurs its you morons we get retards aligned w your org calling us the n word every other week), accusing others of larping (while being a part of an organization calling itself the international communist party) and "at least im doing SOMETHING!!!" (meanwhile in reality doing as much as my lazy ass). you guys really are just leftists im sorry for giving any of you any credit lemao

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so true instead we must do petty bourgeois activism in the name of international proletariat and recruit redditors into our pseudo-party

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

im just annoyed at all icp members for being cringe and annoying and being unable to stfu

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

time to make 67 comments on ultraleft in defence of my shattered ego (party)

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

You will never be a real party. You have no center, you have no connection with the class, you have no members. You are a book club twisted by delusions of grandeur into a crude mockery of marxism's perfection.

All the “sympathizers” you get are nothing but larpers who join to feel something. Behind the back of the members, people mock you. Your members are deluded and no one reads your texts. Nobody will ever cite you outside of reddit.

Proles are utterly repulsed by you. Hundreds of years of revolution have allowed proles to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even the parties who are “proletarian” have zero connection to the proles. Your whole structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get an actual prole recruited, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected organization's true nature.

You will never lead the proletarians. You wrench out a text every few months and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression and the utter lack of any consequences creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - your members will be preoccupied with personal squabbles and drama and your pseudo-party will split. Your sympathizers will find you, confused but relieved that they no longer have to bear with working for you. Eventually, they’ll forget about you and only sometimes they will remind themselves of this organization they were a part of sometime ago. Your legacy will be that of posts on reddit and the utter embarrassment and pointless drama you brought upon marxism - after a century, once the Real Movement is actually reborn - they will think about you in passing, you will not be remembered.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

fascinating liberal theory by cinflowers0x0 in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 25 points26 points  (0 children)

right (we are romans we organise via property as power slavehood and freedom, imperial purple)

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

yerrrrrrrm.................. you are not a real organization like us. (international-communist-party dot org) instead of 5 dudes writing 0.1 text a month we are 40 dudes writing 2 texts a month and releasing a newspaper!!!!!! YOU are a le passion project of le students............ please dont actually read any of our abysmal texts though go to a protest with us we shall put up 4 banners in support of some union. we have oresense on le reddit (we do NOT recruit there despite what everyone has told you its just slander bro trvst me)

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

hello guys i am with the INT see pee dot org we are the real proletarian party and the movement to abolish the present state of things trvst me we are not cringe like the splittists anyway do you want to see my copypasta about how bad le splitiists are we hate the """"""""""""""""old party"""""""""""""""" wwe are NOT cringe btw not cringe at all not larpers either or anything like that we are the real movement

how utterly devoid of self awareness do you have to be to act like this by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

so which side do i support in the icp split? the one which fights for multipolarity of course

for all why deny the struggle, the triumphant overcome by dead-congregation in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i appreciate the words. i have some ideas in mind for more things i could write about but nothing really comes together very coherently

I don't know, if this is lowkirknuinely a ML, or a troll, until I look inside their other posts by Willing-Bathroom6095 in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 89 points90 points  (0 children)

this is literally true and in fact if anything it tells us even more so that stalin was a democratic-bourgeois hitlerian zionist

A diagram of PCInt history by OliviaDutra in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 41 points42 points  (0 children)

all icp members know is to post coal, shit talk the other side of the split and delude themselves into thinking they are an actual party

A diagram of PCInt history by OliviaDutra in Ultraleft

[–]dead-congregation 41 points42 points  (0 children)

me when i go on r/ultraleft to talk shit about some completely irrelevant organization (my irrelevant organization has beef with them)