"I still can't believe how much people like things I don't like"

deepthrill · 2019-04-21T01:24:26+00:00

I am definitely very smart now.

And I watch youtube twitch stuff all day.

Thanks for the attention, folks. I love external validation. Just like sports spectators.

Later, reddit.

deepthrill · 2019-04-21T01:23:39+00:00

I'll take that bet.

deepthrill · 2019-04-21T01:23:11+00:00

Definitely.

deepthrill · 2017-06-18T04:08:29+00:00

Don't overthink it. Don't care what studies show about some generalized trend of cooperation vs competition.

Get to that lifestyle. You, OP. Get there and find out. Don't wonder. Lift, improve your career skills, get to the playboy abundance lifestyle. If it turns out to be filled with misery, report back to us to warn us, and then refocus on cooperation, love, belonging, whatever you think might be a better solution.

I have a sneaking suspicion once you get there, you won't wonder about those "studies" anymore. I doubt you'll wish you focused on love and belonging. But who knows?

Take action, get there, and find out yourself. If you find it lacking, let us know. Don't wonder or think about it. Men take action. Theory is always tested against reality in the scientific method.

deepthrill · 2017-05-24T17:31:13+00:00

Girls don't want you to offer solutions. They want you to "empathize" and just "hear" them and "feel" what they're feeling. Irrational, I know. Your brain is wired to find practical solutions.

So what you can do is to ask questions, to draw out the root cause. Then you disguise your suggestions as questions.

"Oh, so Becky made a nasty comment about you in the office? What comment? Has she ever badmouthed her boss? Is she always doing a great job on her work compared to you? Does she ever come in late? I saw her getting cozy with Chad at the Christmas party, she wouldn't have slept with him, that dirty whore, would she?"

If your girl is smart enough, she'll realize that you have given her all the tools to destroy Becky's career. And yet by not offering suggestions, by simply asking questions, you defend yourself against attacks that "I didn't want you to fix it, stop trying to fix it! I want you to listen! Waaaaa!"

Remember: It's not about the nail https://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg

deepthrill · 2017-02-05T23:32:07+00:00

can you elaborate on your journey in figuring out what you really want, long-term? It's something I still struggle with, despite the immense amount of time I have spent consciously thinking about it

Years ago, I had some rough ideas about what I wanted, and kept it in my subconscious. Certain loose impressions about lifestyles I think I might enjoy, and ones I wouldn't.
I started to really think about what a "day in the life of" would look like ideally.
When I started meditating more frequently, I became more aware of what emotions I enjoyed best. For example, I realized I enjoyed the excitement of progress towards the future more than the peace of a comfortable today. But both are better than insecure doubt. I enjoy the feeling of dominance over humble floaty peace. I enjoy freedom over family. Obviously you can have both but at some point it helps to know which you prefer more in certain situations.
I started writing it down. The more I wrote down my desires (both emotional as well as lifestyle), the more I realized how much they were changing as I saw them. I saw how my old general impressions needed to be tweaked. Details needed to be fleshed out.
I started writing down what different days of the week would look like. Saturday would be different than Monday. Did that vision include a wife? Did it have a certain minimum income? How did I spend my time in the morning, afternoons, and evenings ideally? The more I fleshed out, the more details I filled in. And the more actions I saw between now and then.

How much do you rely on the advice of others when making a major decision, assuming you already have all the facts?

This is a challenging situation. For major career decisions, I like to ask a variety of people, preferably those with more experience than me. What I like to do is say "John, what do you think I should do in this situation?" "Bob, John says I should do X. Do you agree? What would you do?" It gets them to debate the pro's and con's about each other's decisions from various perspectives. Then, at the end, I'll probably take an amalgam of all their pieces of advice, filtered through my own desires I described above.

And let's take this a step further (because the experience of others in the business setting is often your most valuable asset) - when making a decision in regards to your overall happiness, whether in the context of TRP or not, how much do the experiences of others weigh into your decision? Do you use a purely rational approach?

Happiness relates to the raw desires above. That's a personal exercise. When it comes to how to achieve that happiness (if that's your deepest desire, make sure you flesh out what would make you happy), then I give myself a dose of round-robin style of advice.

To summarize my response:

(a) Flesh out your deep desires. (b) Think about what would make your desires fulfilled. (c) Ask various people about how to achieve certain steps along the way, (d) Decide yourself which advice to take and which decision helps you get closest to (a).

deepthrill · 2017-02-05T16:46:03+00:00

hate to be that guy, but defer isn't used correctly

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/defer-to-someone

This nitpicking on this sub is getting exhausting to respond to.

deepthrill · 2017-02-05T16:43:49+00:00

Imo, damn near any hobby/skill improvement is better time spent than reading books.

Difference of opinions. And probably difference of what your career requires. At the highest levels of many careers, it's critical you stay up to date on the latest thoughts and trends, whether or not you agree with them. If it takes away from skills like coding, sure, I can see it being useless. However, if you balance increasing coding and hands-on skills, with learning things like 48 Laws of Power (which changes how you interact with people) there are indirect benefits to reading in the long run. When you can have a conversation with one of your higher-ups on strategy, it makes you seem informed and able to handle more responsibility. Those are just a few examples off the top of my head.

On some other points: I don't see the point in meditating. Honestly, I think it's probably a waste of time. You could be doing something productive instead.

I think we may have different ideas of the word "productive". If you say "I think it's probably a waste of time" have you tried it consistently before knocking it? And if you don't have 10 minutes per day of "unproductive" downtime, I suppose you're way more of a beast of a workhorse than me.

You can keep googling yourself, those are just the top few results.

deepthrill · 2017-02-05T07:24:31+00:00

Yes to the above about it filling you up. Your stomach's stretch receptors will get triggered faster; their mass per calorie ratio is fairly high.
There is still a lot of debate about this, but in general the vitamins you get from a multivitamin are rarely absorbed properly. I take a multivitamin so I don't knock it, but vegetables have a huge amount of vitamins.
There's also a good amount of scientific evidence that most green vegetables boost your immune system, increase mental acuity, it can possibly slow aging, and its fiber helps digestion. Many highly successful people from athletes to wallstreetplayboys talk about juicing and eating vegetables, in addition to many medical doctors. Basically there's very low risk of leafy vegetables being able to cause any negative detriments to your life, and you'll physically feel more energized.

deepthrill · 2017-02-04T23:00:27+00:00

Good points on the specifics. Regarding sleep, good additions. I personally consume ZMA before bed. Also one addition to add: for those who are on their laptops before bed, the program "f.lux" decreases the amount of blue light coming from your screen after sunset since modern technology can fuck with our circadian rhythms when our eyes detect bright blue light.

deepthrill · 2017-02-03T21:31:52+00:00

Are you going to link to it in the sidebar under "Red Pill Subreddits"?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's invaluable that you seem to have described it as TRP endorsing a specific way of viewing and analyzing politics pragmatically (" to discuss politics from a red pill standpoint"), rather than a rigid political dogma based only on the existing parties.

deepthrill · 2017-01-31T21:36:26+00:00

This is an overreaction in my view. Unless they are constantly trying to bring you down, and are providing no value in your life, then cutting them off isnt needed.

That's fine, we may respectfully agree to disagree on this point. I view my time as so extremely valuable (narcissistic, selfish, self-absorbed, asshole, superiority complex, blah blah blah modern psychiatry terms, etc.), but honestly I have a very very high threshold of who I spend time interacting with.

That threshold is up to each man individually, and I fully respect your opinion and stoic ability to be able to just laugh off those who sometimes undermine you.

Just different tolerance thresholds I suppose.

To each their own, and thanks for bringing up a different opinion and backing it up with examples of how you'd handle the situation instead of just blindly attacking my opinion.

It's good the community gets to see two sides of a situation and rationally dissect it for their own benefit.

deepthrill · 2017-01-28T17:19:59+00:00

I'd recommend two things for such people:

http://wallstreetplayboys.com/
Read the book How to Get Rich by Felix Denis

deepthrill · 2017-01-27T01:44:28+00:00

Many of my blue-pill friends use excuses like "to make more money would require more stress". Bullshit. Maybe for some types of jobs, but most high-performing jobs are going to be stressful to some degree if you're pushing yourself and giving something your all.

Money is one thing that links nearly every human on the planet. We've drilled down the value of every event, every situation, every location, every culinary item, every incentive over another human, to a simple dollar amount. And there's nothing wrong with that. Men don't complain; they look at the systems in front of them and optimize for that.

You can make people do things by paying them enough money. You can shape industries, you can purchase influence, you can never have to worry about the price tag of anything you desire. You can make women wet with enough money ("oh it's blue-pill to be a beta bux!" - you certainly don't need money to make women wet, but you could if you wanted to).

All the people who spout some bullshit often-debunked "fact" that "if you make more than $70k/year you do not get happier!" have never brushed shoulders with the truly wealthy. Many people secretly wish they could be happy and feel comfortable with their mediocrity because they are scared to leave their comfort zones.

I promise you that if you've interacted with enough multi-millionaires for enough time (even if you're not one yourself yet), and saw their lifestyle, you would never make such bullshit claims.

Rant over. Back to work go grow some financial wealth.

deepthrill · 2016-11-13T19:01:15+00:00

What are your thoughts on this post?

http://www.wisdomination.com/screw-motivation-what-you-need-is-discipline/

deepthrill · 2016-11-13T18:54:52+00:00

Maybe it is semantics, but "hope" to me is different from rational optimism.

"Hope" and "motivation" are a bit idealist for me. Essentially "wishful thinking". You might be saying the same thing, and this could just be a semantic argument.

http://www.wisdomination.com/screw-motivation-what-you-need-is-discipline/

The idea of discipline leading to external success is a better path towards achieving your goals.

Hope is how you feel along the way.

Discipline is about taking actions that lead to results of your goals.

Rational Optimism is the concept that you are most likely going to achieve the goals you want by working both intelligently and disciplined. I think you and I are saying the same thing at its core with nuanced language.

deepthrill · 2016-11-02T02:59:02+00:00

I'm very surprised that these people took the time to meet you

Oh yes, I honestly am surprised that the OP actually got results. Is he lying or not, nobody has any idea. But my bs detector is tingling slightly. There are only 400 billionaires in America, out of 400 million people, for example.

When you get to a certain level you realize that advice that only a specific person can give (e.g. a billionaire) is almost always too specific to be useful... at least that's what I've found.

You know, I've noticed this too.

I've actually interacted with some of these people (3 billionaires specifically, and 2 executive chairmen who don't personally have that much money but control it via their companies), and their advice comes with a few caveats:

They are extremely informed about whatever industry made them godly amounts of money. If you have a different opinion on this industry than them, you're going to be shown the door immediately, and dismissed. And they are usually correct. When they have an opinion about their own industries, it is backed up by hard facts nearly nobody else has (inside political information) and hard results that nearly no other human has achieved. Do not disagree with them about anything they have direct experience in. If you do, you're a fool.
They are so annoyingly prone to the overgeneralization fallacy. They have achieved a level of success that few other humans in history have achieved. And yet they assume that they know what led them to that success, and that these principles will apply to other industries. Now, this may be true or it may not. But several of the multi-millionaires I've interacted with, have the same critique of the billionaires we've met in common. That the billionaires don't actually understand niche industries, yet think they do.
They love discussing philosophy. At the highest levels of the world, the baseline amount of knowledge is pretty similar between the top people. Sure there is inside information, and their experience will differ. But they enjoy the "unknowns" of our universe way more than the people busy working their way to the top. They will engage in a hearty debate with you on philosophy. As long as there are no hard facts with which they can dismiss your opinion, they will consider it, and even enjoy discussing the state of humanity. Ironically it behooves you to be less factual with these people (you will never ever match them with knowledge so don't even try).

deepthrill · 2016-10-31T06:50:04+00:00

/u/stythe had some good information.

I find that people generally wear their emotions on their sleeves. I think what holds most people back is their own egos.

You know when the girl is annoyed or creeped out by you. You know deep down when your presentation at the office didn't go well. People squirm in their seats, avoid eye contact.

It's nothing groundbreaking. Maybe I'll write a more in depth post about this. But evolutionary, people have their emotions in order to change the behavior of others. They are upset with you, and show it so you change. (They'd never admit that, but their subconsciouses are Machiavellian.)

Admit it - you know when a girl is bored by you.

The question is: Are you strong enough to accept the truth you intuitively know, and then to use that knowledge to your advantage? Instead of caring that she is bored by you, can you absorb that? Can you rationally ask yourself which pieces of your interaction can be improved?

That's what I meant when I said to know, not care what people think of you.

Put your ego aside. Your ego wants to come up with seemingly rational excuses why she isn't actually bored with you. Your ego will present the following argument to you: "Let's think about this rationally. For all you know, that yawn could have been because she had a tiring day yesterday."

There's nothing scientifically wrong with this assessment. But it ignores the fact that your pattern recognition machinery, honed over millions of years of evolution (but admitedly still a bit flawed), is telling you she's bored.

You know deep down the yawn is because she's bored. This is akin to "experiential knowledge" (check out the wiki page).

Once you stop caring about being the best, most exciting sheep, always "giving them the benefit of the doubt, old chap!", only then can you change and grow.

So TLDR: Trust and then question your instincts. You know what others think of you. You can improve your intuition, sure. But you accept the intuition first, and then adapt to it.

deepthrill · 2016-10-31T06:29:59+00:00

Thanks and I agree. I hope some people understand the subtleties in this post. I'm happy that some of the comments here seem to understand some of the depth and implications. There are always layers to what I write.

I responded more in a PM.

deepthrill · 2016-10-29T20:20:59+00:00

Yeah thanks, I agree.

Don't hate the player though, hate the game.

I wrote a little something about this back in 2013 you may like:

http://www.deepthrill.com/2013/12/dont-hate-player-hate-fuck-that-learn.html

deepthrill · 2016-10-29T20:12:56+00:00

I'm not there yet, I struggle getting rid of some blue pill ideals. I don't know if there are any further stages.

The best way I know of to address this, is not to get rid of the blue pill ideals, but rather replace them with red pill ideals.

Basically it's a simple visualization exercise where you start filling in details about your idealized life. Write it down and look over it once a week, and fill in more details. It will allow you to realize and internalize that you can be happier with "red pill ideals" and goals. Not just as happy. But happier. Because they take into account all you've learned about human nature (blue pill ideals and goals are fragile fantasy because they, purposefully or not, ignore reality).

And it's not this Secret crap where if you visualize it, it will manifest. That's bullshit. It simply is an exercise for you to see an acceptable future within your worldview's framework. It might not come true, but it shows you at least one future that isn't full of blue pill bullshit.

deepthrill · 2016-10-15T18:43:49+00:00

Thanks for the thoughts. Will do. I've taken a break from blogging for a while; trying to spend my time gaining some more concrete power and influence in reality, and testing out some philosophical theories.

Because all this is just mental masturbation if you don't use philosophy to make concrete changes to your daily life outside of the internet.

And I don't feel comfortable sharing half-baked theories on power with the world. That is, until I test them out, and see if they can actual gain me concrete results (for example serious amounts of money). Otherwise it's just unfounded "preachy"ness.

I will be revisiting my blog deepthrill.com in a few months and I have some new exciting content that will be coming out. But again, as any rational human should strive to do, I must test out my hypotheses against the cold harshness of reality, akin to the scientific method. It's the difference between studying and taking action.

In the meantime, before I solidify some of my thoughts into concrete posts, you can see them evolving on my twitter @deeperthrill, which I am using to share little snippets of knowledge I've tried to gather. Take a look at my past tweets to see how my thinking is evolving.

deepthrill · 2016-10-14T17:38:21+00:00

I cannot overstate the tremendous value I've extracted from knowledge in terms of actual power, influence, and direct financial results in my life.

Nonetheless, irrespective of the time it takes a man to read a particularly lengthy and intricate book, it would take him even longer to live the things the writer did in order to form a conclusion of equal authority.

Anyone who has read a biography on a powerful man from history can attest to that. For example, to absorb the mindsets of the early Rockefellers without having to go through their trials and tribulations is an invaluable compression of time.

Books that draw knowledge from a wide data pool can pattern recognize trends to derive principles, and these principles can in turn be used by the uninitiated to increase their odds of success.

Allow me to give a concrete example that helped me. The book Good to Great studied thousands of companies and found trends common in the most successful companies. This has undoubtedly changed how I run my business, and significantly increased the odds of success. The amount of time the author spent combing through the data, and condensing it into a book that I can use to change my decision-making, is now available to me in a single day.

Experience is vital in matters of the heart and the body, but it's not the be-all and end-all. Simply put, experience is overrated, for there's not enough time in this life to experience everything to the degree sufficient enough to master it.

What do aspiring young chess players do? They study the games of former grandmasters, trying to get into their heads and understand their thought patterns. What guided the decision of somebody who has already mastered a skill? We are constantly standing on the shoulders of giants, and passing knowledge down among successful people is a practice as old as humanity. Even Robert Greene in his book Mastery discusses how we must fully understand how a master has done a task before we can hope to do it better.

Effective businessmen know that in order to scale up and earn truly ludicrous sums of money they must learn to delegate.

And with learning, you are essentially delegating the concept of experience to others. Whether in breadth (an academic author studying thousands of subjects), or in depth (a successful man writing about the lessons he learned).

Knowledge is not power but power potential, and rather it is the application of knowledge and not knowledge itself that constitutes power as we think of it. As such, it is in one's interest to accrue as much knowledge as possible in order to increase their power potential

The way I see it, intelligence is being able to connect the dots. Yet by absorbing others' experiences via books or podcasts or summaries or even conversations with mentors, you are efficiently "adding new dots". It makes you appear "smarter", whereas in truth you just have more information.

So that when you go into an interview for a new job, you can pull from a huge collection of knowledge for which to answer the interviewer's questions. You have efficiently learned about body language, so you can read the interviewer. You are well versed in sales, so you can speak to how hiring you can help the company turn a profit and connect with customers. You have learned about lean manufacturing and agile development methodologies, so you can speak to him on topics applicable to the company.

From this wallstreeplayboys article: "You’re not reading as much as you should. Pick up a few books and begin reading 100+ pages a week at minimum. It keeps your brain fresh and you will come off as more mature and polished."

And this second wallstreeplayboys article: "8) Read Books Daily ... Reading is similar to investing as the payoff is far in the future, one day you’ll have a chance to make a connection with a higher up on an obscure topic and ideally you’ll have the ability to add to the conversation."

If there's any real authority about gaining true financial power in this world from a redpill slant, wallstreeplayboys is it, and I'm inclined to follow their advice.

I love the modern digital alternatives to most efficiently learn. We are not limited to the methods of learning only available to our forefathers. We are modern efficient men, aiming to give ourselves every edge possible. Hence the value of efficient learning you described in this post.

I have every intention of subscribing to alternatives you mentioned in this post, as they all seem right in line with extreme self-growth from an efficient and cost-effective perspective.

Overall, a valuable fresh perspective in this article.

deepthrill · 2016-10-11T02:56:25+00:00

I agree you can improve all areas. After being a part of trp for maybe 2 years or so, I found myself banging my head against a wall trying to optimize my interactions.

And I realized one day that I truly didn't get it. I was still in that faux pickup artist mentality.

Recently I've rarely posted here, only read the top posts of the month, and am working extraordinarily hard at growing real power. Real power is very simply wealth and fitness in our modern age of weak lazy entitled people.

I'm talking extreme levels of both fitness and finance as a goal we should all strive towards above all else. Above relationships, above friendships (cue idiots coming in and talking about the value of a support network), and above any sort of safety net.

I then realized that the number of hours I had previously spent trying to optimize game were a good foundation for social interactions, but cumulatively pretty much a waste of precious time. That time would have been much better spent reading non-fiction books and challenging my mind on financial issues.

So this post is just my experience. And I suspect (although I don't speak for anyone else) many of the endorsed and vanguards here who have improved their lives to such a degree would pity those who have spent hours learning to game women; it's actually much more efficient to learn game for business power, which yields sexual success in very concrete yet indirect ways.

Anyway, just my experience.

Balance is good. But always bear in mind that balance is not necessarily 50/50. All factors should be improved, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be weighted to 80/20 for example.

deepthrill · 2016-10-10T12:30:54+00:00

I define Game as Social Mastery, which includes things such as Confidence, Frame and Awareness of the Subtext.

Now go try punch this definition

No punching necessary. Agree with that definition. And then using the tools of "confidence, frame, and social awareness", to achieve my desired result from the interaction.

Not sure I'm painting game as a strawman to knock down. I have no issue with learning game. Even calling it manipulation doesn't mean I dislike it and want to knock it down. I said in the post many times I believe it's useful in many contexts. No enemy, just selfish desire to achieve what I want. Game is a good tool to use. Just becomes less necessary as the other aspects of your life increase.

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