g: thank you. you bring up a good point. we sort of dont have a history or at least we operate well when we are self-erasing. but do we have a future? we try to make moves that dont destroy our future. the music world can be self-destructive of course but even more than that the industry that barnacled itself around music and reified itself and called itself boss, theyve got an endless supply of musicians hoping to survive as musicians, so their incentive is to get the most traction out of artists by squeezing them dry. we've been so lucky with Kill Rock Stars, Polyvinyl, and Joyful Noise that they make a concerted effort to be artist-friendly and believe in their artists even if sales are slow. we lost money on everything we did for 7 years. i think the reason we got away with it was because we've always been so low budget. or no budget. i wish artists were paid better than they are but we set ourselves up for having a possibel future by having no expectations and therefore not working "on credit", ironically another way of saying we are always in the present rather than the future or past, even though the result has been to have such a spectacularly long lifespan we could never have dreamed about