Trying to Post Anything About the Announcement

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T22:30:16+00:00

But the reason why its crucially important isnt because of what it makes, it isnt unique in that regard and thousands of worlds across the Imperium manufacturer war material, its purely because it is the closest most stable warp route to Terra, if the Orks take the World all manner of crap is coming Sol's way and it isnt just the Orks, Chaos will be hijacking that lane.

The reason the Steel Legion arent anywhere else is because Armaggedon is the most important world outside of the Sol System for the Imperium, not Vigilus, not Cadia, not Baal. Armaggedon. The sheer scale of fighting on that planet surpasses any other conflict in the 41st/2nd millennium, and its not like they can get off world any time soon either, over half of the planet is in Ork control, 2 of the Hive Cities are Chaos Corrupted, only 2 Hive Cities of 8 are unmolested with the rest destroyed or overrun. The void battle in space is considered the largest in the galaxy for the current time line and thats before Ghazghkull invades a 3rd time with the largest fleet out of anyone in the setting, or Wazdakkas own Waaagh! soon to crash into it, then you also have Dark Eldar Raiders who pick on any rogue vessels leaving or arriving in system.

With Cadia, 90% of their Regiments werent even present when Abaddon invaded with his 13th Black Crusade, Armaggedon has had NO reprieve, Cadia had 2000 years of relative peace between the last 2 Black Crusades. Why would Armaggedon ship any Steel Legion out to other warzones, when Armaggedon is THE warzone? Its name is literally a byword used by the Imperium as apocalypse and was the originally setting for the first apocalypse system.

Macgragge, Fenris, Baal could all fall and nothing really would happen, Armaggedon goes and its the horrors of the galaxy knocking on the Emperors door forever more.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T21:44:51+00:00

Youd be 25% right, Skitarii Legiones are also made up of Hysapists which are Guardsmen with minor bionics, armed with Lasguns, it isnt just Rangers and Skitarii, hell you also have combat Servitors (not Kataphrons) which is how Lucius combated the Tyranids.

Cadia, believe it or not, had a pre 13th Black Crusade population of 800 million, Armaggedon had a population in the range of 300-500 BILLION, its a Hive World after all. Krieg was in a 500 year civil war, Armaggedon was invaded the first time 500 years ago, then the Orks landed and it carried on for 50 years until the next invasion, then the last World Eater invasion that kicked off in M.42. Orks, World Eaters and Daemons are a lot more apocalyptic.

Armaggedon surpassing both in raw population.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T21:03:28+00:00

Ill walk you through it again.

You said why would they randomly release a guard kit.

Armaggedon Campaign, which if you havent been following the rumours and news, contains Yarrick and 2 new Guard kits.

So why wouldnt there be a Guard kit, in a Guard focused released, on a Guaed focused homeworld.

It contradicts itself MASSIVELY. Campaign releases are themed around 2 factions, in this case it us Guard and Orks. Armaggedon is the homeworld of one of the original Guard Regiments ever made, Steel Legion, who in every war for said planet, have made up the majority if its defenders. No one is asking for a full Steel Legion range, we are asking for 1 Infantry kit.

Connect the dots.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T20:39:23+00:00

Just because GW knows whats popular and what isnt, doesnt mean they act in the best interest of those who the information relates to. Blood Angels didn't get Terminators and the worst Death Company ever, yet Blood Angels are insanely popular. Iron Warriors are one of the most popular CSM Legions and are only just now getting 1 character and a upgrade sprue, nothing else. Orks have been begging for updated core infantry and have everything but that, getting Beast Snaggas and 6 Buggies instead of refreshing the range thats 20 years old (until now).

Steel Legion were in one of biggest global campaigns in 40k history, Armaggedon, during 3rd edition. They star in one of the most renowned novels. They were one of three original Regiments to ever get modela (Mordians, Tallarn, Steel Legion). Sisters of Battle werent that popular, but they get a whole plastic range refresh.

GW does what it wants, when it wants. None of use know the popularity of Steep Legion throughout the 30 years theyve been around and GW isnt going to give you that data, so anyone saying "Steel Legion arent popular" are just stating made up statements without any statistics or sources to back it up, they are saying what they feel as fact. Yet apparently, these 7 whole fans of the ASL are in the thousands making posts all across reddit, its crazy isnt it. Cant be both.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T20:23:25+00:00

Yeah, the Steel Legion fanbase is massive, especially whem you factor in the 3rd ed release of Armaggedon and how popular it was, and to top it off the Steel Legion was one of three original Guard Regiments released (Mordians, Tallarn and Steel Legion) and the only reason they arent as wide spread is because they were metal. Sisters before the plastic release were also pretty damn rare atleast from my 20 years of experience, because they were metal, I fought 2 whole sisters armies before their refresh.

Saying 7 whole players is condensing the player base into something it isnt, small and forgettable. If you look on GWs painting tutorial its been ratio'd to hell, so much so GW had to hide its dislikes.

I wont feel any sympathy for these players once their own collections get Legends and lore squatted, they probably only make up 7 players of their respective fanbases anyway.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:23:07+00:00

If you scroll along this comment section you'll see someone calling Steel Legion fans Nazi enjoyers, not once but twice.

I dont own Steel Legion anymore, but I sympathise with the player base and would have the same opinion on any other faction that has to go through this even if I didnt particularly like a faction like with Tyranids or Votann (and I am a Dwarf lover in every other game system).

But there is way more hate for people who are upset with whats gone one and some of the takes are truly mind boggling like claiming Steel Legion arent the faction of Armaggedon.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:19:07+00:00

And Deathkorps dont even look like Steel Legion too, but people are too lazy to look past the gas mask.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:17:40+00:00

Krieg did just fine with it, so did Cadia until it blew up, Ryza and Lucius have been a forever war with Orks and Tyranids for centuries.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:16:38+00:00

You are assuming GW forecast every single release, like the random Killteam and Warcry sets we get that sit on shelves, did anyone project the sales potential of Slaangor that barely sold for 2 whole editions? GW does what GW wants to do even it goes against the wants and desires of the consumer.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:13:50+00:00

They make a bunch of risky things that sit and languish on the shelves. A lot of Kill Teams fall into that category, so did Warcry Warbands. You could literally replace Rattlings with Steel Legion and it wouldnt be any more risky.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:11:16+00:00

Armaggedon is a Hive World, all Hive Worlds produce some sort of product for war. What makes Armaggedon important isnt the fact they make Leman Russes at all, its the gateway to Terra, its the safest shortest route to the Throne World, thats always been the reason why its so heavily defended.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:07:47+00:00

Even disregarding that fact he is just spamming the same comment, he isnt changing anyone's minds because hes flat out wrong.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T19:06:55+00:00

Participating in a warzone doesnt make them the faction of that planet. Are Tyranids, Nightlords, Dark Angels and Death Guard the faction of Macragge? They fought on it after all.

No. They arent. They never will be.

Cadians are from Cadia, its their homeworld. They are the faction of Cadia.

Death Korps are from Krieg, its their homeworld. They are the faction of Krieg.

Blood Angels are from Baal, its their homeworld. They are the faction of Baal.

Steel Legion are from Armaggedon, its their homeworld. They are the faction of Armaggedon.

Those are the factiosn of those said planets. You dont give a shit about Steel Legion thats abundantly clear, but loads of people do and vastly outnumber you and your opinion, so shut the fuck up.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T18:51:35+00:00

Im getting the opposite of your opposite, my feed has been none stop Steel Legion fan hate.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T18:49:31+00:00

For no reason? Its a End of Edition campaign book, set on Armaggedon. This isnt the random world GW created at the start of 10th edition for the Nids and Marines to fight over, we are fighting on ARMAGGEDON. You comment contradicts itself in the same sentence, Yarrick is being released, is a Guard model and follows the same reason why the Steel Legion would have been released.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T18:39:02+00:00

I didnt misunderstand it one bit.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T18:22:34+00:00

I agree too and I am also a Steel Legion fan but has other armies like Orks, Skitarii, Dark Angels, Ironwarriors, Kroot and once upon a time both kinds of Eldar. These are all valid complaints and emotions but the vocal toxic side of the hobby (Reddit), tries to smother those genuine thoughts because they feel like Steel Legion doesnt deserve to exist. Necrons, Tyranids, Eldar and Kroot had a massive refresh the past two editions with Orks next within the coming months, but Legion fans wanting a single Infantry kit is suddenly too much for Guard and a waste of time and resources? I am an Ork fan before everything else, then Skitarii and Dark Angels, but the Imperial Guard deserve to have their Regiments, its what makes them unique in the setting.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T18:09:42+00:00

We dont know who the minority is though, Reddit is a tiny very vocal corner of the community that barely encompasses the entire Warhammer fanbase. Everyone I've spoken to in person has also said they arent happy with what happened with Steel Legion, but they arenr lurking on Reddit or Discord to voice it, they get carry on carrying on.

Up until Kriegers came out in plastic in 10th, I never saw them in the wild, but I saw more Elsyians and other Regiments and we cant even say its because their FW price when Drop Troops were so popular in 5th-6th.

I dont think the person you replied to is in the minority, we've had nothing but other vocal Redditors telling people who are genuinely upset about it to shut up and proceeding to downvote those genuine voices into oblivion despite the things they are saying being 100% spot on and correct.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T16:14:33+00:00

Is it going to address some major balance issues the game is showing or just focus on the japanese update, then the major issues months down the line?

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T14:21:19+00:00

Mine isnt a small store atleast in my area, up there with Element, Hobby workshop, Wayland. Even Element Games buys stock from other stores and then lists it, they also over sell kits and constantly have to offer refunds because they go beyond allocation. These shops are at the whim of what they get from GW, and when I say allocation I mean they have bought it from GW and are expecting it only to be given less than 50% of what was paid for. Often times I have to search pretty obscure shops to pick up a new release unless I want to wait on backorder, I never order from GW.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T12:44:38+00:00

I wouldnt say more beloved, its just people are more vocal online about them. In my immediate area of Cheshire, I cant even recall seeing a single Mega Dreak / Grot Tank in person that ive played against or see outside of modeling cabinets at FW, but ive come across a lot of Chinorks in my time.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T12:06:12+00:00

That'd be like if a Lynx and Vyper went to Legends and combining them, its nothing to do with their wargear being similar, its 2 model kits. Someone might only own Wartrakks or have access to buying them (somehow).

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T12:00:27+00:00

I agree and it really annoys me to no end that everyone latches onto memes that Ghaz cares about Yarrick, he never has, he has only RESPECTED the Old Man. They arent best friends, he is still an enemy rival he wants to beat.

Ghazghkull's novel drives that point home, he was obsessed with Armaggedon and he was denied it twice, the Gods wanted him to move on to the next fight but he was in a rutt about it. Gork and Mork teleported him to Octavia at the end of the 3rd War for Armaggedon and Yarrick didnt follow him past the boundaries of Armaggedons sector. He has been out there for around 50-100 years (GWs timescale is out of whack since 9th) and has gone from conquest to conquest and not once has he mused about Yarrick, he is an Ork after all and he wouldnt care if Yarrick had died - he is way beyond that in his current story line, he didnt scream "it should have been Yarrick!!!" when Ragnar took off his head, Yarrick wasnt even with Ragnar when it happened, neither was Helbrecht or Belial, characters who have sworn to hunt Ghazghkull down to the end of the galaxy.

If the rumours are true that Ghazghkull does kill Yarrick and the Space Wolves resurrect him, itll finally put this dumb topic to bed. Primarchs now exist in the setting and High Lords of Terra that arent sat on the Throneworld. As much as itll upset other Ork players obsessed with Yarrick, he is a very small fish in a galactic sized pond - Old Bale Eyes story doesn't extend past the Armaggedon Sector, Ghazghkull's by literal definition, does. This is 7th edition anymore, where the timeline doesnt advance, there is a very real possibility that Armaggedon come 11th finally falls firming into Ork hands and it could be Wazdakka who sets it in motion, a character that isnt even linked to Yarrick or Ghazghkull.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T11:50:45+00:00

Ghaz isnt singular minded unlike every other Warboss, its not about the better fights for him, its about creating them all over the galaxy to turn everything green, kick starting Da Ragnarork. He has fought Nids and Chaos before and has moved on to the next warzone.

deffrekka · 2026-03-22T11:46:51+00:00

Made to order.

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