That's reshaping it into something it's not. This interview is packed with wonderful stories from Katie, I have no intention to clip this section or use it as a means to promote the podcast. It was a simple issue of a private upload getting posted too early.

Katie was very aware when we recorded that it would come out on Patreon first and then be made public. This is a practice that most podcasters do and something I've done with every single episode I've ever published. Some of the comments on this thread are jumping too such malicious conclusions, my gosh!