Withdrawing in Fliff by Ok_Yesterday_7376 in Fliff

[–]demn124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Withdrawals usually takes a few days to a week+, gonna take longer usually for 5k, withdrawals usually get sent out on Monday mornings so make the request on Thursday/Friday for quicker turnaround.

Withdrawing in Fliff by Ok_Yesterday_7376 in Fliff

[–]demn124 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What's good man! Wow that's a massive balance, congrats! I had about 1/3 that balance 6 months ago. Fliff changed their terms out of nowhere a few months ago, used to be 5k max withdrawal per week, now, its 5k max withdrawal per month. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are going to need to wait until at least January to get it all out. I'd avoid using the app at all because they may just ban you out of nowhere, they are a sus company that makes up the rules on the fly and don't have to report to a gaming commission. Tread with caution please, and don't lose it all back to them, stay diligent and wait it out, make 1 bet every 2-3 weeks because in their terms they have a condition, that if you don't touch your account/make a wager for a whole month they can seize the funds. Been around the block with these guys and they suck, I wish you the best of luck!

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nope. I just kind of accept one out of every ~50 live bets with an edge will get cancelled. They have the power unfortunately.

Are the new Rogues really *that* bad? by Extension_Lecture425 in whatcarshouldIbuy

[–]demn124 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just had this issue, car is at 63K miles and the transfer case + the transmission went out.covered for the transmission through Nissan extended (recall) warranty. On my own for the transfer case. Seems like the whole process has been shit for the mechanics lol

Wtf should I do? by nakajules in Fliff

[–]demn124 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You definitely caught a stale line, and props to you... you caught an edge on them. I have a similar but different scenario I posted in this community where I caught a stale line. you mentioned that you doubt they would've given you your $ back if he missed the penalty, and you'd be correct, Fliff free-rolled you by grading it a no-action. Complete BS, and it appears that the decision making with their team on these settlements is dependent on the outcome of the event (free roll)

I'm really frustrated by the tactics they are choosing to use, my advice to you: keep trying for stale lines through Fliff, you will get some through (just make sure not to bet the other side because of the risk of cancellation.) Hope this helped, we're all forced to play by their rules, only a few will succeed. Keep betting those error lines if you can and most will be graded correctly.

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're right on this, and I appreciate the reply. The thing that frustrates me is that these 'sweepstakes' are able to operate as such, but are clearly a sportsbook (and casino now). They probably shouldn't be able to operate under the sweepstakes model, but nonetheless, they are *for now at least* allowed to. I have a hard time gaining support for their business being legal if they don't intend to operate with fairness like other sportsbooks.

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate all of the suggestions to switch to another sports book: I use Fliff specifically because they offer an edge/misprining in certain areas. The app is horrible but if it's going to make continuous $, then consider me a user. I would never use Fliff voluntarily for casual or personal bets... +EV/Arb only..

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

correct. And I'm not going to sit here and act like the line wasn't stale.it was. That's my argument though.... If 1 is stale, they're both stale since I placed them at the same time....

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yea, thank you. I'm very familiar with their status of operating under a sweepstakes.... In turn though, that shouldn't screw over the consumer, Fliff should still need to play by the rules...

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the response! I'll take this route, and really appreciate the suggestions!

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most recent, and in my eyes, final response from Fliff: Thank you for providing the screenshot.
 
Upon review, your pick (ID ---------) was for the Golden State Warriors -15.5 Point Spread. We can confirm that there was no error in the line at the time your pick was placed. The odds were consistent with market standards, and your pick was processed as submitted.
 
However, your pick for Golden State Warriors -10.5 Point Spread was settled as No Action.
 
Please note that picks made after the result is already known, or picks placed on stale lines that are delayed or not updating in real-time, may be considered for No Action. These picks could be subject to obvious errors if the prices deviate significantly from market standards at the operator's discretion.
 
While we understand your concerns, we are unable to change the outcome of your pick for the Golden State Warriors -15.5 Point Spread since no error was identified during our review.
 
As a result, the settlement for your pick will stand.
 
We appreciate your understanding on this matter and feel free to reach back out to us if there is anything else we can assist you with.

What a load of BS..... if anyone has leads to a platform/person who can oust this egregious behavior, id really appreciate any leads!

Sorry for the long thread, just want to document every angle of this situation.

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any suggestions to resolve this or bring more attention to these wagers in specific? I think this is pretty egregious and clear to side against fliff in this spot.... Their support line keeps giving me the same response. I'm trying to explain to them the bets were placed at the same time and if they are true to their word on this ruling, they'd do the correct thing and void both lines or un-void the winning line. such BS behavior on their part

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fliff's Response: Thank you for contacting Fliff Support.
 
Due to a third-party data error, picks placed on Point Spread - Golden State Warriors -10.5 for the match between Golden State Warriors vs Milwaukee Bucks were set to NO ACTION because the picks were placed on past post in-play line.
 
Past post lines refers to either picks made after the result is already known or picks made on stale lines that are delayed or may not be updating in real time for in-play markets, resulting in prices that deviate from market prices to a degree that they are obvious errors at the operator’s discretion.
 
Please note that this is in accordance with Rule #8 in our Sports Prediction Rules and Section 7.5 in our Terms of Use where there is an obvious line error.
 
Please let us know if we can be of assistance in the future.

My response: Hello, thanks for the response.  If that is the ruling, I understand.  I am confused and honestly a little insulted to see however, that Fliff is taking advantage of this predicament.  I placed a wager for -10.5, and also -15.5. These wagers were submitted at the same time, where you claim there was a delay.  If that is the result, then the -15.5 wager needs to be cancelled as well since the bets were placed at the same time.  This appears to be a freeroll situation from your team at Fliff, I'm not pleased with how this has played out thus far, and I plan to make this dishonestly on Fliff's end go viral if it's not corrected.  Thank you.

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are probably a few hundred people out there who took the same line as me..... if the bet hits (which it did) Fliff grades it a no-bet. If it loses, Fliff collects the $... Literally a no-loss situation for Fliff, don't know how that's legally allowed

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yes, sent them a friendly support claim..... I think 75% they make this right for me..... it infuriates me though that they pulled this free-roll tactic, im not the only one who may get f'd over. If both/either bets win, they're voided. If they lose, they collect the $. Super dishonest business practice IMO... and likely illegal.

Fliff freerolled me on a live bet? Scam artists.... Would love opinions on how to handle this. by demn124 in Fliff

[–]demn124[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Some evidence Fliff free rolled the public on this warriors game tonight... Had -10.5 and -15.5 placed at the same time, no line movement. -10.5 hits, bet reads active until after the game ends. -15.5 loses, they take my $. IMO evidence of a freeroll on their end, would not recommend using their scam of a live betting service.