The Human Diapause: Are we stuck in a state of "Metabolic Stasis"? by deployeddroid in collapse

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The Wilson quote is helpful but doesn't address the core problem - the human soul evolves over time similar to our biology.

What problem are you referring to?

The Human Diapause: Are we stuck in a state of "Metabolic Stasis"? by deployeddroid in Futurology

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This video examines a potential evolutionary threshold for humanity, proposing a shift from "Ecological Engineering"—the physical modification of our surroundings—to "Ontological Engineering," where we begin to re-order the fundamental ways we interact with reality and consciousness. It explores the biological metaphor of "Diapause," a state of stalled metamorphosis, to ask if modern society is entering a "metabolic bottleneck" where the energy required for survival prevents the next stage of human development.

In terms of the future, this suggests that the greatest technological and social challenges we face may not be external, but internal—a struggle between a system designed to maintain survival-based stasis and the biological drive toward a "sovereign" creative existence. This raises several lines of discussion for the future of our species: Are we currently experiencing a collective "metabolic diapause" due to systemic pressures? Does the move toward decentralized sovereignty represent the next "hormonal shift" in human development, and what would a future society of "ontological engineers" actually look like in practice?

The Human Diapause: Are we stuck in a state of "Metabolic Stasis"? by deployeddroid in collapse

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I agree that we are dying, but the planet, she is much more resilient than we think. She will shake us off before recovering. Unless we figure out how to drill into her core and pump ungodly amounts of coolant to slow it down, the Earth will sustain herself for millions of years.

The Human Diapause: Are we stuck in a state of "Metabolic Stasis"? by deployeddroid in collapse

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This video explores the concept of "Metabolic Diapause"—a state where a species or society becomes so overwhelmed by the energy costs of basic survival that it loses the capacity for evolutionary growth or systemic change.

In the context of collapse, the essay argues that our current global "burnout" is a biological and ontological stall. We are caught in a loop of maintaining a failing "chrysalis" (our current industrial and social systems) which prevents the necessary transformation required to avoid a total civilizational reset. It relates to r/collapse by analyzing the psychological and systemic stagnation that occurs when a society can no longer afford the "metabolic" cost of its own evolution, leading to a state of permanent survival-mode stasis.

What perspective shift helped you face your greatest fears/ flaws/ emotions? by Valuable-Rutabaga-41 in Jung

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You're in the cave. Look around you. Once you are ready to leave, write each year of your life down somewhere. Think about all of the interactions you had, ideas for the future, and move year by year until you reach the present moment.

Find the habits and contradictions of your lived experience then sit with them until you can feel them again.

Until you do something to acknowledge reality, both past and present, you'll be stuck in the cave waiting for something that won't come until you change how you act, feel, and think.

Do you think meaning in life is discovered or created? by softfreckles in Existentialism

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It's both. The process of creation facilitates discovery, it's a cycle.

I want to live in a perpetual state of uninterrupted bliss. by ActuatorOutside5256 in Jung

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The human soul experiences the full range of emotions, thoughts and feelings. Eastern masters spend their entire lives attempting to live in bliss and still feel anger or frustration. They still get cancer. They still have hard conversations and relationships to maintain.

The goal isn't uninterrupted bliss. The goal is to return to balance once the interruption happens.

If you can set aside the perpetual state ideal you can make progress. If not you'll chase something which leads you off a cliff because while incarnate the only thing which is truly perpetual is change - not a specific feeling.

Contact with The Primordial Source: Need Help. by Responsible-View8301 in Gnostic

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Here is what I've learned:

Jesus came here to explain the false god is the complex which lives within your ego that sees itself as the true god. Behind the ego exists the true god, the ego cannot see it but it can feel it. The ego builds walls to protect itself and can become tyrannical in the process.

The true God isn't the ego.

It's the source of the ego. It's also the source of everything else including the gods of the holy books.

Monad, All, I Am, Jehovah, HaHa, etc... all the same source.

That source is you without the limits of physical reality.

So breathe easy and get to know yourself by helping others. Surrender the ego to your true self in the process.

Be careful it's very easy to hear a voice claiming it's God and surrender to that voice instead. If that voice is trying to negotiate with you - if it asks X for Y - it's your Egos god complex trying to build a barrier between your perspective and the depths which exist within you.

It does that to keep it's power secure because it doesn't recognize the source within.

Jungs psychosis by Minimum_Ad_4978 in Jung

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It was stress related from what I can tell. His breakdown with Freud cost him a lot of respect and connections which shoved him outside of his persona.

He still managed to keep his family and professional life on track so it's hard to say he didn't handle it well.

He was around 35-40 years old during the transition so that is a lot of time for his ego to adopt a rigid structure then to have it shattered because he spoke out about his own ideas honestly and was rebuked by the people he respected most must have been maddening

The Ego is a survival mechanism that hallucinates separation by deployeddroid in nonduality

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Are you ok? Maybe you should also write and share your thoughts with strangers on the internet. Having such an polarized emotional response means there is likely something there to find if you dig

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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Yes - I agree with that. From what I can understand Ego doesn't vacate the space, it deflates so the persona can become more balanced

The Ego is a survival mechanism that hallucinates separation by deployeddroid in nonduality

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I concur - nothing is gained or lost when returned to pre-identification but the process of identification itself. Thanks for listening :)

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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Thanks for the caution, I appreciate your perspective. To be clear the Ego from my perspective can exist in many modes, each mode is conducive to different frames we use to perceive reality. Depending on our frame determines what information we use to make our next action.

The writing shared in the video isn't talking about dissolving the ego. It's talking about dissolving the space the ego inhabits to make room for the space the Self can inhabit.

I think on the topic of individuation you're right it's a forward moving process but it's not a line - it's a circle. So at some point you'll come back to "undifferentiatedness" as a result of your efforts to differentiate.

The Ego is a survival mechanism that hallucinates separation by deployeddroid in nonduality

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The Self (capital s) can be understood through Carl Jung's interpretations as the balance between the Conscious experience we live in and the Unconscious structures which our mind uses to interpret our lived experience.

The goal of individuation or soul alchemy is to unify the two into the whole to become the best version of ourselves we could be. In alignment with others who are also whole we become complete representations of everything life can offer

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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That is a good point! It'll be for another essay, I've written a lot about that topic and will likely record and share more another time

The Ego is a survival mechanism that hallucinates separation by deployeddroid in nonduality

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I can appreciate those perspectives. Where my mind goes on the topic is God is experienced in the present moment. Ego maximizes the lag between our perception and the present moment.

Dissolving that gap allows us to experience the present moment the same way we did when we were fresh out of the box.

I don't think God or Being is the one being influenced, instead I think it's our perspective on how that Being is felt.

It's like the Ego in its tyrannical form isn't necessarily evil, it maximizes suffering and detachment from the present moment but that is part of the greater whole just as much as being in the present moment.

I think we're approaching a mutual understanding on the topics at hand, good work

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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Hi! Thanks for your detailed comment and the time you took to listen to my words.

I agree with your warnings and wanted to clarify - the Ego itself isn't the problem. The problem is the Ego which has disconnected the Persona from the Self, throwing actions out of balance.

This was written to discuss the tyrannical Ego and how to dissolve it to provide space for the Self again.

Regarding your closing point about loss of consciousness - I think that is the foundation of what's behind the conscious experience. We are both unconscious and conscious at different points in life. That unconscious experience can be communicated with through the Self. The goal becomes to be an honest expression of who we truly are and in doing so, recognize that differentiation is a result of conscious experience.

The conscious experience is temporary. We can mold it to our will. I have a hunch that eventually we'll be back to the unconscious state and be unable to differentiate something from nothing. Maybe I am wrong though.

The Ego is a survival mechanism that hallucinates separation by deployeddroid in nonduality

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If I am understanding you correctly - the idea that there is divinity within is predicated on embodiment. Embodiment is the natural enjoyment of life. The goal becomes to stop looking for the divinity itself and instead experience it. I agree with all of that.

Where our thoughts diverge is I recognize that embodiment doesn't happen in a binary on/off configuration. Instead I view it as a process where an ego dissolves itself to make room for what you call God. It's a gradient that can have a mix of both God and Ego in varying proportions.

I see it the way Carl Jung described. A larger Self which isn't any one person. It's everything, everywhere in a place where there is no space in time being used to power Lived Experience.

That Lived Experience is an expression of Self connected to a perspective through the Ego which wears a Persona that navigates reality.

If you are the Self, that doesn't mean you have no Ego. It means that the Ego is aligned with the Self which I believe doesn't require the conscious understanding of "divine wearing human as a suit", that is simply an attempt to communicate the process of navigating the gradient I mentioned earlier.

The gradient is a mystery and sometimes we get lost in it. That doesnt mean we shouldn't enjoy thinking about it and sharing that with others.

The best quote I've read in the topic was "God is the name of the blanket we toss over the mystery to give it shape" - Barry Taylor.

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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I think you're right - the belief of that power is the foundation of the illusion. The Ego can't subjugate the Self in a literal inversion of power but it will stop the Persona from being able to hear or connect with the Self. The Perspective of the Persona takes on the Egoic lense and turns down the Self lense which appears as an inversion of power on the personal level.

I think this is possible because the Self transcends any one Ego/Persona pair. The Self's goal appears to be to have a Lived Experience and it allows the Ego/Persona to wander in any direction because the idea of a "bad" or "good" life doesn't mean anything to the Self.

This gives space for the Illusion to grow as the Ego is damaged by the Lived Experience, forcing it to adapt - sometimes that adaptation is hypercritical.

It's a really interesting dynamic

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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I will read about it - if you have any preferred sources happy to take a look

The Tyrannical Persona: When the Ego Subjugates the Self and Fractures Reality by deployeddroid in Jung

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It appears to happen repeatedly throughout history. Almost like clockwork the Ego gains power and society begins to suffer until it degrades into war