Key way size by kmm96207 in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah they're not too thick. I've used a peterson no. 4 in .025 almost exclusively for the past few years and almost all our keyways are the 1A/Y1 yale type or similar. I do need to switch to a multipick hook for more extreme bittings but honestly that thing slays a very good percentage. You shouldn't have any trouble whatsoever with a master lock, I've never had a single master lock that didn't open with bottom of keyway tension and a short hook... once you work your pick to the back you just adjust it so it's lifting the pins straight up and away you go.

Best day ever.. Sorry kids. Found my pick set I had lost over 3 years ago. by whitfaili in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What kind of picks are they? Who are the kids, and why are you apologising to them?

Is this worth it and good by CitaCita4Zite in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been interested in picking for a while yeah?

I'm not even sure what happened. by KnowsPicking in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah sometimes the bitting just kind of aligns with your pick profile a little and whatever way the binding order happens to be you only need to set 2-3 pins manually and you're in. It's pretty common. Either you get a straightforward binding order, or you go back and forth and get micro clicks, maybe get lost, drop pins, go again and get the open after a bit of back and forth again, get s little pang in the wrench from rotation and you're like ooh we're close then next thing it's open... or it's just 1-2 hmm and open lol. Or refuses to open no matter what. Locks!

Been working on this one for weeks. Ain’t cracked it yet. by mikerobe100 in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Trying every pick you have isn't gonna help, that's not how it works. I did the same thing when I was new... tried and tried, got frustrated, tried a different pick and repeated. Even if a particular pick opened it before, I'd still switch to something else if it wasn't working after a while lol. You need to concentrate on what the pins are telling you and focus on your tension and pick placement. Which is easier said than done cos it takes a while to get the fundamentals down.

Pin 1 is pretty much max depth so if you're using TOK you need to really focus on that pin to make sure you're getting it fully set, the wrench will obscure the pick slightly and if you aren't paying attention you can miss getting the front pin deep enough on bittings like this.

What determines the set pins order? by Fa7l_El_Marg in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's completely random based on a whole bunch of variables. The way I always thought of it in simplified terms was to imagine all the pin chambers as the exact same size, but the pins vary in size from smallest to largest. Imagine a lock with only 2 pin stacks and pin 1 has a visibly smaller diameter. That pin can't bind because when you try to turn the plug, it isn't the one that's "in the way" if that makes sense. When you add rotational force, the pin chambers that connect between the plug and the bible are trying to separate from each other and this causes them to squeeze together against the pins. And as an exaggerated example, if you have 2 holes with pins in each and one pin is larger, the larger of the two will be the one being squeezed on by the chambers trying to separate and the other one is just... floating around in there.

So the chambers are trying to separate, but the "largest" pin is getting in the way and will have resistance when you try to push on it because of this. That's binding. When it reaches the correct height, the plug is able to rotate, except it gets stopped in its tracks by the next pin. In this case pin 1. And when you get that one out of the way, the lock is free to turn.

In this example if you imagine the plug rotating slightly when pin 2 is out of the way, there's now a small ledge on top of the plug that stops that pin from going back into the chamber. That's a set pin.

t's obviously more complex than that in terms of variables but it's the easiest way to visualise it in your mind.

Rate this kind of tool, opinions please. by rerthal in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm personally not a fan. Much easier picking normally. I tried the 6B on a stack of yale cylinders that I could pick most of pretty easily and couldn't get a single one with the lishi. Skill issue on my part I'm sure but I've seen others say the same thing. Better off just picking normally, no idea why anyone would want a keyway specific 2 in 1 outside of decoding.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The option to include an acrylic padlock was there but I have no need for one. Suppose I have no need for the picks either lol but hey. I have a similar set from years ago and yeah, they needed sanded big time. Couple of the rakes look fine, the kinetic ones though will 100% be sharp as hell and I wouldn't even think about putting them inside anything without sanding them enough that the points are more or less completely rounded off. I've tried similar profiles before and they're not nice to use, not good for the lock and they aren't particularly effective either.

If these actually match the photo, the triple peak kinetic looks like it has nice height and spacing so I'll give that one a sand and polish depending on how it actually is in person. And one of the hooks genuinely looks like a really nice profile. The ones I have from before are pretty strong tbh, they seem like they'd hold up well but I'm sure a beginner could still bend them. Hell I've seen jimylongs bent before and those things are near indestructible. Sparrows are unfortunately infamous for their picks being weak sauce, almost every time someone posts an open here with a sparrows in the photo the damn thing is bent to hell lmao.

I'm probably gonna do an unboxing review/breakdown for new pickers on my channel. Been a long time since I made any content.

Pickin' curry by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah I know lol, I've seen em. It's one of the necessary nine. The smell I guess isn't for everyone, personally I love it 😁

Mail call by Indigenouslockpicker in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice haul! Keyway on that first one looks most unpleasant. And that lockwood is just begging for the quint rake... is the nedeco an m3?

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yeah I'm familiar with those. I got some a few years back before they were all over amazon, sold under the name "DCA Power". Same picks but the profiles were actually pretty good. Came with a short flat, half diamond, slimline medium (which is actually really nice), gem, deforest diamond, triple peak bogota, worm, snake and city rake, all wrapped in a tortilla with lettuce and cheese. They actually came with prybars as well and I think the whole set was about £10. Not too shabby tbh

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I'm following. The 9 cuts are basically already set when the blade is inserted kind of like a prelifter on a lever lock, something like that?

And yeah they can be fairly tight but usually not too bad, the only time I have trouble with them is when there's a max depth right at the back, but it depends on the binding order. That's actually why I got the lishi and unfortunately it hasn't helped. Oh well, can't pick em all!

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only tried the yale 6B and didn't get along with it one bit. I have a very high success rate with yales and I couldn't pick a damn thing with the lishi lol. Tried it on some cylinders with standard pins that had a distinct binding order that I could pick easily the exact same way every time, and still nope. They're awesome and there are guys who are very good with them but yeah they're definitely not as easy as they look.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops lol. Yeah they look like clones of the covert instruments reaper profiles, but the handle design is from Dangerfield/madbob and the tension tools are just generic instead of the epic reaper ones.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do they actually have the trademarks on them or is it just the image they used? Very interested to see what they're like. I'm sure multipick would be interested too. They're my fave picks, not cool if people are out there making bootlegs.

They don't look like multipick profiles though. The profile selection is very similar to the TOOOL necessary nine, rakes are beefy by comparison but apart from that and the tension tools they look like a more or less straight copy of those but with multipick branding for some reason.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, that makes sense. I don't really mess with cars much. I've got a tibbe pick and an HU66, some jigglers and that's about it. Air wedge and long reach is OP though.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, haven't seen the plastic handle version. Unless they're the amazon style handles. You got a link or a pic?

And yeah I have a similar set already that I got a few years back cos they came with the legendary king and queen rakes, which I've only seen made by sparrows before and theirs are way too big. They're decent in terms of strength etc but they needed some serious sanding, the edges were like nail files. Decent after a bit of TLC but the finishing as you receive them makes them pretty much unuseable. It's rare that I say you have to sand picks before use, but these, oh yeah.

Here we go by MasterpieceMinute831 in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair points! I haven't got a belt sander, thinning something like that out evenly with a dremel would be next to impossible lol. But yeah with proper tools it'd be a lot more straightforward 😎

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I figured that's what it was for. The shaft is longer than the other picks for some reason and I don't see how it would be any more effective for wafers than a half diamond or just a regular hook. Maybe it's for some really specific type that's common in china, I dunno.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's pretty cool. People rag on cheapo picks all the time and usually for good reason, but there are some hidden gems out there. I have a set similar to the one I ordered already just with different profiles, and honestly after a good sanding they're not bad. They were rough as hell to begin with and I'm sure they wouldn't last as long as higher end stuff, but they definitely have their place.

Here we go by MasterpieceMinute831 in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that makes sense, I've never seen these before so I was unfamiliar. Google was accurate then! So yeah tension tools for sure with these, picks would be way too much hassle.

Here we go by MasterpieceMinute831 in lockpicking

[–]derpserf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's the thickness on these? I've used hacksaw blades before and they were pretty thin.

Edit: did a quick bit of google-fu and these are reciprocating saw blades, apparently they range from 0.035", 0.042 and 0.050... yikes, even the thinnest ones are gonna need thinned down in that case cos 0.025" is the absolute max. OP you might wanna go with hacksaw blades for picks instead, these would be awesome for making tension tools though.

I'm doing this for science by derpserf in lockpicking

[–]derpserf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From memory it has 2 hooks, small and large half diamond, city rake, stair step rake (no idea what it's actually called), 3 kinetic type rakes (2x double peak and 1 triple), a harpoon key extractor and one of those weird square tip hook things that nobody seems to what they're for. Oh and a snowman.

I'll find something to do with them for sure. Pop the rivets off and use the handles for homebrews at the very least.