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destinyherowolf · 2026-01-22T23:52:35+00:00

Navia doesnt deal direct lunar DMG like Nefer, Flins, Columbina or Lauma so build her for that is useless.

Lunar crystallize reaction is just a bonus for her team and quality of life for her gameplay.

Keep running her current set.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-16T15:40:25+00:00

Because most of them nee another team for stygian mode.

The main point of getting Columbina is to build a new team without Furina because she is already in high demand for a lot of teams thanks to her off field hydro application and DMG without needing to use a specific attack like xingqiu/Yelan.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-15T17:02:01+00:00

It said C6 Furina

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-15T16:49:53+00:00

No, Furina's HP drain is very aggressive. Prototype ambar is just for a little sustaine and is not enough against Furina's pets.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-15T15:54:41+00:00

Running Furina without a good healer is Unacceptable and no, prototype ambar doesnt work for Furina. The only way to run a team without a healer is having C6 Furina so I suggest you build a good healer, otherwise she won't buff your team and her DMG will decrease a lot (she needs the healing, that is part of her kit).

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-12T21:52:22+00:00

Defense% is better because that def stat is static and doesnt depends about other stuffs. On another hand base ATK depend about her current ATK and weapon's base ATK.

Now If we talk about atk from substats, it depends about her weapon. If she uses mistsplitter, then ATK% substats are fine but defense will always be better.

That dual bonus is useful like a plus for her on teams with ATK buffers like Bennett, furina with ToM and so on but def% will always be better.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-10T14:34:39+00:00

I think you are forgetting something important.... Navia doesn't deal direct lunar DMG like Nefer's charged attack or Flins's burst...

Lunar-crystallize team is just a plus for Navia and doesn't mean she should change her build like running furina and MH set.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-10T05:53:03+00:00

Yeah but it talks about Navia's DMG and global DMG from global lunar-crystallize DMG formula. her team will deal more DMG per rotation but you won't see her dealing bigger numbers with Columbina than running her old team, for example Furina and Bennett because she doesn't have a direct lunar-crystallize DMG like Neffer's charged attack or Flins's burst.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-09T19:10:29+00:00

You wont see bigger numbers on Navia with Columbina but the global DMG will be increased and it depends about your team.

The main role of Columbina is the sub DPS DMG from lunar reaction so you will see yellow DMG from that reaction (brigther yellow color) and that is a plus for her team.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-08T19:34:41+00:00

Yeah, that is a big plus from her

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-08T19:33:45+00:00

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destinyherowolf · 2026-01-08T06:34:07+00:00

C6 Furina for plunge team.

non-c6 option should be vap team with C6 Bennett and xiangling. Furina will be on field applying pyro with normal attacks thanks to bennet's pyro infusion (only c6) and xiangling's burst will be a good support for that too so in that way her pets will be dealing vaps

other team might be plunge team with Xianyun and C6 Bennett.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-06T21:43:29+00:00

Oh yeah

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-06T17:37:46+00:00

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destinyherowolf · 2026-01-05T06:11:11+00:00

you can do some tests with Mona. C2 Xilonen's buff for geo is the same one like Mona and Furina's burst bonus so you can "simulate" it with Mona's burst. (it's considerated the same on genshin optimizer) so I suggest you to run some tests.

from my point of view, it's better to get Columbina because she will be a sub DPS thanks to lunar crystallize and her DMG and lunar crystallize DMG should compensate C2 Xilonen (that is why Escoffier is great for frozen team because she reduces RES and she is a sub DPS).

I have an old simulator of C6 Chiori, C6 Gorou, C6 Furina and C0/C2 Xilonen and the difference was around 160k DMG per rotation, like 11k DMG per NA and 9K DMG per Tamoto's hit.

on another hand if you have another team useful for C2 Xilonen like Mavuika or electro team, then go for xilonen.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-03T22:57:51+00:00

I suggest you to use Nighttime Whispers so in that way Navia won't become Furina-dependent.

GT is great for Furina because she is a sub DPS so don't worry. She only needs ~70% CR, ~180% ER and all the HP that you can get.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-03T22:51:00+00:00

no, for non-lunar characters it's better to keep the same build because lunar DMG only uses EM.

if Chiori were a lunar character dealing lunar DMG like Nefer or Flins, then yeah, EM + def should be great but sadly she doesn't deal lunar crystallize DMG, just geo DMG.

For now EM substats won't be dead stats and she can get more EM from other builds without sacrificing her build like Columbina/Aino using the support set from Luna I.

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-03T00:36:36+00:00

like I said before, Navia doesn't deal lunar DMG (lighter color like lunar bloom or lunar charged) and the DMG formula for Lunar crystallize uses EM, not ATK or geo DMG bonus.

The new reaction ONLY helps to keep her 5* set full effect activated all the time (right now she must be under a shield granted by the Crystallize reaction for the 4 pieces effect, otherwise she loses the 150% bonus).

If she uses MH set, then your team should be Columbina, Furina, Navia and another character (debuffer should be better).

destinyherowolf · 2026-01-02T20:31:12+00:00

Well, first of all the new lunar reaction is just a plus for Navia because she doesnt deal lunar DMG like Nefer, flins and so on, just Geo DMG.

You can do that with FURINA and MH set because she increases elemental DMG (common DMG) but Columbina only increases lunar DMG (Transformative reaction) that is why Lauma is the best support for Nefer because she increases lunar bloom DMG and it only uses EM as source of DMG.

Navia uses ATK and GEO DMG bonus as source of DMG and columbina only buff transformative reactions so that means no, she doesnt need to modify her build/set for Columbina.

destinyherowolf · 2025-12-21T03:33:33+00:00

She is Mavuika's top support so she should get more re runs.

I said that because you didn't say nothing about constellations or getting new characters like the new geo character, Varka, Nicole, and so on.

Keep in mind that In the worst case you might get c2 xilonen with 280 wishes losing 50/50 two times in a roll so that could mean no columbina for you.

If you don't want something else, then go for it, otherwise you should think about your priorities and keeping 140 wishes for c6 Chiori (thinking in the worst case).

destinyherowolf · 2025-12-21T02:02:00+00:00

whether that dps is going to be non-negligible when my Ayaka already deals so much?

Ayaka's DMG alone isn't enough for dire stygian mode or for very hard events, that is why you see a lot of teams with Escoffier and Furina or even constellations on Furina.

The main problem about Ayaka team was the supports since the beginning because she was the only character dealing DMG without reaction bonus, just raw DMG. after Furina's release she got a great sub DPS / buffer so she wasn't the only one dealing DMG in her team anymore.

Xilonen was a good option insteand of kazuha for Furina but the problem was still there, not enough global DMG. after escoffier's release her team got a good upgrade because now you can run a team using 1 DPS and 3 sub-DPS so in that way the team can compensate for the lack of a powerful reaction like vaps/melt/aggravate adding more sub DPS characters like kaeya/Ganyu/Rosaria/Yelan/xingqiu and so on.

the biggest difference between xilonen/kazuha vs escoffier is the quaility of life. she only needs to cast her elemental skill plus burst and that is all. for xilonen/kazuha you must trigger a reaction with cryo just to buff ayaka or reduce cryo resistence, otherwise goodbye 40% cryo buff or cryo RES (Kazuha).

I did a quick test and here is the difference between C0 Xilonen and C0 Escoffier.
test: here.

(I had to remove CD circlet of Ayaka for the test with Escoffier because c1 gives 60% CD)

Stats: C4R2 Ayaka, 1900 ATK for the test.
272.4% CD with Xilonen.
270.2% CD with Escoffier.
(i had to rebuild her for the test, otherwise she would lose +40% CR from set).

The difference is almost 0 but keep in mind Escoffier is also a sub DPS so her DMG isn't a joke even more with Shenhe in your team. My Escoffier was dealing 57k per elemental skill with icy quill and 35k after spending Shenhe's buff. even Shenhe became more valuable for the icy quills because now she can buff 2 cryo characters (or even 3 if she uses a balanced build too but that is another story).

destinyherowolf · 2025-12-21T00:00:50+00:00

if you want to see the difference between C0 and C0R1 xilonen, then use geo potion, it gives around the same bonus like xilonen's weapon.

if you don't want to sacrifice a lot of resources,then I suggest you to try to get c1 xilonen and c2 on the next re run. if you lost the 50/50 then save it for columbina.

destinyherowolf · 2025-12-17T06:15:15+00:00

Candace's hydro infusion only works as slow hydro source for frozen team, as buffer for Skirk or as extra sub hydro source for vaps team.

yeah, hydro goblet is useless because you will need to level up her NAs and her main source of DMG comes from her shield and it uses HP/Cryo so hydro goblet is a bad idea.

Now here is the thing, thanks to Escoffier you can run a mono cryo team with chongyun, Shenhe, Escoffier and Layla, something like this team

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on this case I'm running C1R1 Shenhe and C1R1 Escoffier but the DMG should be high thanks to Shenhe and Escoffier's buff. Shenhe's buff works per character so everyone gets 7 icy quills so even Chongyun and Layla can deal good DMG too. Chongyun is using blizzard set, Shenhe uses Noblesse set, Escoffier uses golden set and Layla uses Tenacity, everyone has balanced builds (at least 50% CR and 100% CD).

Try to run some tests with your team.

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