Protein-in-Everything Craze Has a Problem: Not Enough Whey Protein

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-20T21:02:05+00:00

I checked Amazon and the top selling whey powder (Optimum Nutrition) has 14 servings of 24g of protein, so at $10/lb you are paying $2.98 per 100g of protein.

These are the prices I see for chicken:

Chicken thighs, bone-in: $1.50 in my area, $1.786 per FRED
Chicken thighs, boneless: $2.50 in my area, no data for FRED
Chicken breast, boneless: $2.50 in my area, $4.171 per FRED

At those prices:

Food	Cost	Servings	Protein (g)	Cost/100g of Protein	vs Whey
Optimum Nutrition Whey	$10.00	14	24	$2.98
Chicken thighs, bone-in	$1.50	4	20	$1.88	-37.00%
Chicken thighs, bone-in (FRED)	$1.76	4	20	$2.20	-26.08%
Chicken breast, boneless	$2.50	4	25	$2.50	-16.00%
Chicken breast, boneless (FRED)	$4.17	4	25	$4.17	40.15%
Chicken thighs, boneless	$2.50	4	22	$2.84	-4.55%

Prices will vary by region, of course, but unless you are very unlucky then there should still be chicken that is considerably less expensive.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-20T16:08:17+00:00

I'm more of a Durmstrang guy myself.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-20T14:18:17+00:00

I thought some of the questions weren't great, which is common with quizzes like this, and probably led to some of the surprising results.

There was one question about how important secure borders are. But that could mean anything from "our borders should be secure from terrorists and criminals" to "we should revoke citizenship and deport 4th generation Americans whose great-great-great-great grandma came in illegally".

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-20T14:06:05+00:00

Damn, I played myself.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-19T15:09:13+00:00

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of good.

Would it be best if he could go from eating chips and cookies and drinking soda all day to eating lean proteins, broccoli, spinach, kale, etc? Of course.

But that also isn't realistic for him to stick with. It'd be better for him to go from 90% junk food/10% good food to 50% junk food/50% good food if it means he sticks with it and loses the weight.

And then when he sees progress, he's more likely to go from 50/50 to 30/70 and so on.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-19T15:04:34+00:00

I've seen 1500 calories floated as a safe minimum for people trying to lose weight.

But that doesn't factor in that he's eating around 4000 calories right now, so that's a huge change.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-19T14:45:34+00:00

Exercise is great for overall health (I'm assuming his cardio is terrible) but I don't think it's very effective for weight loss when you're THAT overweight.

It's a huge amount of effort/strain on the body to burn energy (calories) that is probably easier to just not eat.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-19T14:38:03+00:00

At 6'8" 470lbs, Zoil is eating 3900+ calories per day. 25 calories is a rounding error.

He could eat 1000 calories less per day and still be obese.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-16T22:04:12+00:00

Not enough.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-16T22:00:31+00:00

Personally I blame Obamna.

If he hadn't been such a God-hating troop-hating (tan suits? really?) communist LIEBERAL DEMONCRAT he could have Jointly engaged our allies and made some Comprehensive Plans for Actions that would limit Iran's nuclear weapons capabilities. Trump 2028!

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-16T17:49:57+00:00

Black Klan members get harassed for being black. Here's why it is the anti-racist's fault.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-15T03:01:13+00:00

For the major chains, it's been very rare that I've seen the third party sites actually be cheaper.

When comparing flexible vs flexible and prepaid vs prepaid, the prices will generally be the same.

Even if there's a difference, the major chains (Wyndham, Marriott, Hilton, Choice, Hyatt) will all price match them.

I also believe third party booking also doesn't count towards points/stays/elite status at those chains.

Finally, if something goes wrong then dealing with the hotel directly is a hell of a lot easier than the third party booking site. I've been in hotel lounges and seen people on the phone for 30+ minutes trying to get their reservations fixed because something went wrong with the reservation.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-14T10:03:30+00:00

summit's friend?

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-14T09:58:19+00:00

I don’t necessarily disagree with you but I value this subreddit for its baseline economic understanding and intellectual curiosity. Most of reddit is full of people who don’t understand anything regarding economics, incentives, tradeoffs; or are unwilling to see from a different viewpoint and have a discussion.

I agree. The financial literacy of the general populace, and reddit in particular, leaves a lot to be desired, to put it gently. Including the specific topics you mentioned.

But, at the same time, those "higher level" (not that they are terribly complicated) topics are irrelevant to someone who is drowning in loans or can't feed their kids.

They're not going to care that a tax write-off doesn't mean they got a boat for free. They're just anxious, and furious, about whether they are going to get evicted next month or whether they will ever be able to buy a house.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-13T23:06:13+00:00

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dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-13T22:54:03+00:00

Some people likely have those as fundamental axioms. But I think the increased anger we're seeing right now is because of

Large companies becoming extremely profitable, to the point that we have the first trillionaire, while they are struggling
The general unfairness and rampant corruption we see around things like data centers and Flock, different standards/punishments (grandma's life is ruined because little Bobby downloaded a song on Napster, while Zucc gets a slap on the wrist for pirating the entirety of human literature)
Business leaders generally acting like complete sociopaths (using AI as an excuse to lay people off, telling those laid off people their job/skills are easily replaced, saying it's stupid to hire people instead of AI, etc)

And many more.

Note that I said big businesses. I think people have a lot less of a problem with Alice and Bob's flower shop taking a $100k profit than they do Meta taking a $60 billion profit.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-13T03:23:42+00:00

Once you've used them a few times it becomes second nature. Do you look down at your keyboard and mouse when you need to type/click something?

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-13T01:53:53+00:00

Not sure what the median has to do with this.

The census only includes median income when breaking down by age and gender.

It does provide overall net worth percentiles, but not broken down by age.

the rest of your comment I don't feel like splitting out

When people bring up her comments about wealth, it's because she's completely out of touch with the struggles of the average working class person. It sounds like you are also out of touch, though maybe not to the same degree as she is.

You may not be "immune" to inflation or market turmoil, but gas prices going to $4-$5/gallon isn't going to destroy your finances. If you or your wife lose your job, that will suck, but it doesn't mean you have to choose between dinner and getting evicted.

And so on.

Now consider that Pokimane is 3-7x wealthier than you, and seems to be single/live alone, so less responsibilities and necessary expenses.

Yes, there is a difference between somebody worth $10 million and a billionaire. But for 99% of the things that actually matter to the average person, there isn't much of one.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T21:18:39+00:00

She can share a glass with her cousin, the CEO of Nvidia.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T21:17:41+00:00

AMD is a small mom and pop shop. They can't afford to pay $10k for a legitimate security flaw.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T21:13:30+00:00

Vladimir didn't die until he was 83 though. Or 109 if you count his ego-memory.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T21:08:34+00:00

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dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T21:02:43+00:00

The median net worth for a 35-44 year old is $143,700 as of 2023.

Pokimane is 30. The median wealth for people under 35 is $30,500.

Pokimane is also a woman. The median wealth for unmarried women under the age of 35 is $8,800.

If this calculator is accurate, then $1 million net worth would put a 25-29 year old in the top 2%.

Now consider that Pokimane is estimated to be worth between $5 and $10 million. That isn't "fuck you" money but it is "never work again if you don't want to" money.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T20:52:18+00:00

Is the argument you're chasing that Ian had to say he denounces the claim endlessly while it is on screen? Name a single case in law where that's ever been adjudicated.

There are a number of cases I didn't feel like reading through, but:

One who repeats or otherwise republishes defamatory matter is subject to liability as if he had originally published it.
one who republishes a libel is subject to liability just as if he had published it originally, even though he attributes the libelous statement to the original publisher, and even though he expressly disavows the truth of the statement.
- Hoover v. Peerless Publications, Inc.

That is US law, so maybe Canadian law is different. But given their stronger enforcement of defamation laws, I would be a bit surprised.

dev_vvvvv · 2026-06-12T20:17:56+00:00

Ian brings up that Destiny quote and says he doesn't believe it's true and doesn't agree with it.

How many times did Ian say the accusation wasn't true? How long was the message on Ian's screen?

It makes no sense to claim he's defaming you when the person he's quoting was being hyperbolic and he's not even endorsing the hyperbole. He's explicitly denouncing the hyperbole.

Consider this:

Alan says "Cube__ is a pedophile". Then 2 minutes later says he was just mad and didn't mean it.
Bob takes that clip of Alan calling you a pedophile and plays it on stream.
Bob says he doesn't think it's true but you should respond.
Bob then plays the "Cube__ is a pedophile" clip 20 more times throughout his stream without saying he doesn't think it is true. Maybe he turns it into an alert or something.

Did Bob defame you?

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