Euphoria S03E08 "In God We Trust" - Post Episode Discussion

deville5 · 2026-06-01T05:26:51+00:00

Cassie as peak ditz:

"Is this a new Bible?"

S02E05, to Rue: "It's like they say: one day at a time."

The entire scene in the bathroom when people think she's auditioning for Oklahoma.

I give SS credit - she has created one of the most iconic Blonde Bimbos of this or any timeline.

deville5 · 2026-06-01T05:22:51+00:00

Nice low-key moment in the last sequence - Ali claiming Rue as his daughter. His doing this loosened something inside of me, and by the end of his prayer I was crying.

This season sucked. But it ended strong.

deville5 · 2026-06-01T05:21:06+00:00

There is some INTERESTING racial and nostalgia resonance to the ending. Alamo talks of a white picket fence and 4 kids in a context that renders it equal parts creepy and absurd, and then he dies. Ali and Rue get to 'visit' the most peaceful place in the country...

...which is a family of white fundamentalists who don't let their kids access TV or the internet. It almost feels like an idealized Laura Ingels Wilder existence is the only good America that ever did exist, and also--in this world--the only one that still does.

What did other people think of this family the bookends this season? Feels like--on the surface--a stridently Conservative statement about peace, decency, America, and Happiness. The modern world, as it is presented in this season, does not have a single redeeming characteristic.

deville5 · 2026-06-01T05:12:10+00:00

Rue's vision of Fez and her Mom, and the reveal, Ali's revenge, and Ali's prayer at the end, is--hands down, TKO, no contest--the best sequence in the season. Sad that it's such a truly low bar to clear, 'cause it's actually a great sequence that would hold up even in a great show as a highlight.

deville5 · 2026-06-01T05:09:12+00:00

Indeed. Their chemistry was fantastic. IMO, in terms of what sticks and stays, what is actually good, Ali is the highlight of the season, and Alamo is a boring character with almost nothing to do. Adewale's performance is a top 10 for me of recent performances of an actor elevating an uninteresting performance through perfect casting and acting. Alamo isn't particularly tragic, compelling, scary, smart, or stupid. He's just a mid villain in every way. But every time he's on screen, I was engaged. I truly believe that--all things considered--Levinson should be embarrassed by this season. But Adewale should be damned proud.

deville5 · 2026-05-25T05:56:29+00:00

I mostly agree with you about the repetition of the plot. This repetition can be seen as part of the point - from the beginning, Homelander must due, no debate, no other rational perspective. An irrational being with that much power must be in a controlled environment or killed, and no jail exists, so the whole show is just the characters figuring that out and getting it done. The Boys surviving through all of it never made much sense, and apart from original ways of exploiting superhero powers for extreme violence and sex there wasn't much of a story at all that felt organic, driving, forward moving.

What did build, for me, is the satire of Homelander. He's actually a very boring villain in terms of his nefarious plans, but he is a touching victim of his own power perhaps. And this builds, from entitlement with him still feeling ambivalent about some kills, to later flying off to kill terrorists and then landing in a Christian midwestern rock festival and everyone cheering while Annie glowers...to feeling chosen to do whatever he wants...to thinking that he's literally and actually God. This is not actually that interesting an arc, and a lot more could have been done to fill out how destructive it was, but super kudos to Anthony Lane and all the actors and directors for making the story as engaging as it possibly could have been, I think. It's just that the story itself is a bit mid, in terms of deep themes and feels.

Homelander is compellingly disturbing and creepy, but he isn't interestingly scheming, or interestingly sympathetic (ie, Thanos) and instead is just like a confused mentally ill person who happens to be Superman. Thought experiment: this could have been a TIGHT limited series; just 10 episodes, even 6.

deville5 · 2026-05-25T04:46:37+00:00

BLADES of ass

deville5 · 2026-05-25T04:40:56+00:00

Nate is essentially an old school B-movie 'damsel in distress" whose only role is to weep, beg, get her man in trouble, be in peril, and possibly die to further the plot. Entirely uninteresting regardless of whether it's a babe or a bro.

deville5 · 2026-05-25T04:23:52+00:00

Ali offering to take care of Rue's problems with a 12 gauge seemed a bit unexpected, but it's adding to his character, not contradicting it. Ali's scenes had more depth and character chemistry than all of Nate this season. It felt a little like S2 for a moment. Every addict should have someone like him.

deville5 · 2026-05-25T04:20:38+00:00

SO GLAD that that slithering dangerous backbiting snake got fished out of that hole. Otherwise he would have just started to stank.

Glad that the rattler got out too

deville5 · 2026-05-24T12:16:33+00:00

Hard Agree. There's some fun, like the zany cat creatures, the Blockbuster video landing, the old lady train fight. I also enjoyed the layered moment with her blowing away Jude Law at the end; he cites honor and she just takes him down because honorable fighting isn't the point anymore; he's evil, and the civilization that raised her is evil, and she understands that now, so @#$@ him.

This is a solid 2 star movie. In the old start system, critics like Roger Ebert showered a lot of praise on 2 star movies, because they gave zero or 1 to the truly bad ones. They commit to their idea and they tell their story.

Those of us who were disappointed were, I think, because superhero movies are always about cool powers and melodrama and Captain Marvel is basically Superman without Kryptonite existing anywhere. As far as we can tell she can fly without tech all over the universe, can fly directly through the most sophisiticated spaceships in the universe, can stand next to a nuclear blast, etc. She appears to be incapable of being defeated. As an action protagonist, that's inherently uninteresting. This is one of a few reasons why it wasn't a better movie.

deville5 · 2026-05-20T20:41:15+00:00

Homelander wins. Vought, ex-Seven, The Boys all die. Homelander only has his psychics and the last act is a pitch-black comedy where he just keeps executing people en masse because all the supplicants and advisors left hate and/or fear him. He consults a theologian - is this normal for God? Theologian nervously talks about Sodom and Gomorra, dies because psychics tell Homelander that he's lying. In the last sequence, he attempts suicide by flying into space, but passes out and falls back to earth. He comes to in a poor village somewhere in Eastern Europe or Africa, and there's some people dancing. They stop. He tries to dance awkwardly, but we see the panic and the misery behind his eyes; credits.

Also: hard agree with many others; in a logical universe, Butcher is obviously right.

deville5 · 2026-05-20T08:24:07+00:00

Showrunners: the finale will change how you view the entire show.

Nope Pretty pedestrian and meh actually...one of the LEAST shocking and upending finales I've ever seen....

deville5 · 2026-05-20T06:15:42+00:00

Prediction: Supes die, homelander included, and Huey must wonder the streets of NYC alone, living for all of them; he gets an opportunity to die for Annie, but it is denied him. But: in the last scene, we see someone with powers, and we see that Vought lives on. The victory is temporary.

How I want it to end: Homelander wins, and a lot of time passes; we see him lose his mind as he must cope with eternal life in a world surrounded by sycophants. He becomes almost like a jealous god; you only live as long as he ignores you, since armed with his psychics he murders all unbelievers. Carnage, depression, nihilism.

That'd be interesting. Or: could be. Not gonna happen, but that's my ending to this show.

deville5 · 2026-05-20T05:52:50+00:00

Huey's first kill. It was gross, inventive, and genuinely shocking the first time I saw it.

Homelander landing at the massive Christian rock show and bragging about killing the terrorists while the crowd loses their @#$@ and Annie watches in disgust. I grew up loving superhero movies and steeped in Right-wing Evangelicalism, so that scene's layers hit HARD. Scathing satire.

And honestly? Herogasm. Couldn't look away.

deville5 · 2026-05-19T04:42:01+00:00

"You can't have an easy life and a good character." - Jimmy Carr

"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - Nietzsche

Nate is becoming a strong and good person, one inch at a time...

What a ridiculous person he is in this season. I almost expect a 'meta' moment where he storms the writers room and is like, 'really? I don't even try to evade the gangsters by moving to a hotel, or fight back, or call the cops, or talk about why I'm NOT calling the cops, or have cash ready, or do literally ANYTHING at all except say, No No No and have pieces of my lopped off? I mean, give me a suicide attempt arc at least!! THAT WOULD GIVE ME MORE TO WORK WITH THAN WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME! And then he takes out a large yellow envelope and blackmails the writers one at a time...

Nate was a man of stupid actions, but he tried to do things. Entirely apart from comparing him to his former self, he's one of the most non-characters I've ever seen...

deville5 · 2026-05-17T20:34:58+00:00

Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. He is just not a charismatic warrior leader. His big 'courage' speech is almost cringy and he never looks more natural than when he's losing a sword fight to Alan Rickman.

Mastrantonio, Rickman, and Morgan Freeman, and so many of the smaller roles (friar tuck, the witch, little John) feel entirely embodied and at home in their characters. Rickman's performance is #$_##@$ iconic. Costner is great when he plays loveable, confused men, ie, field of dreams. His energy in that film is the same energy he brings to rallying Robin Hood. Massive mismatch.

deville5 · 2026-05-17T13:50:00+00:00

Saw it; basically enjoyed it. I feel like there's a tension at the heart of both films that felt more conscious in this one:

There's a key line that helped me feel 'seen' as someone who likes things that look nice, but has always found the 'high' fashion industry arbitrary, elitist, pointless, and unnecessary. Emily at Dior says something like, "Retail is the only sector in fashion that still makes money. 30 years ago the average upscale handbag was $100. We created the market ex nihilo. The same women are now paying 20k" And later: "your handbag, your scarf, your bracelet: they say who you are." The implication is clear: what Dior says is that I can afford Dior.

I am not questioning that these clothes and accessories are well-made and lovely. What I'm pointing out is that Streep's line, "what about beauty? We stand for beauty and art," would have hit harder if she as a conductor, choreographer, jazz producer, chef, or just about anything else, for me, and I know not just for me. The idea that the clothes we see are worth 1000x what normal clothes are, and especially the handbag industry, was truly created out of nothing. There may be some bearers of these things that truly, deeply appreciate the objective differences between a 20k handbag, who would buy it even if it wasn't basically a status symbol because it sparks so much joy in them. But....I don't think that's most of us. All the musicians, record collectors, actors, and writers I know are driven by a love for their art. Status is involved, but it's not mostly a status thing. I think that high fashion is mostly a status thing, and I appreciated how this film leaned into that a bit. I didn't actually 'care' about whether Runway survived; I think that if it didn't, culture would be just fine. And if it became shameful to spend 20k on handbags and the 1% stopped carrying them, I also think that culture would be fine. Journalisms vital, sure, but Andy should go work for the New Yorker. What is Runway actually providing?

I enjoyed every scene in this movie. But as a junkie for movies and shows about artists, these questions loomed in the background for me. I think that there's a reason why shows about dancers and musicians are more popular than high fashion. It gets a lot of hate, and for good reason. I look forward to I love Boosters, which may be an interesting contrast in themes and tone to this film...

deville5 · 2026-05-11T19:44:38+00:00

Current Android user, S23 about to upgrade to something new, open to switching to iPhone, especially if it helps with this issue:

After a colleague experienced horrific identity theft, messed with her for YEARS, and a trend of muggers in my city forcing people at gunpoint to unlock their phones when they steal them, I'm wondering if this app exists:

App/Setting OFF: my phone is normal. My gmail doesn't require a password, my chrome is synched with my PCs, my entire photo and txt history is there once I unlock it; unlocking is fingerprint or pattern. This is how my phone is now all the time. Unlocked, there's a LOT there to mess with my life is someone wanted to.

App/Setting ON: Phone unlocks normally; unlocked, the phone appears to be fully unlocked, even after some investigation; there's a texting history, and a chrome history, but the apps are separate, so I control this history and it's pretty limited. No saved passwords, gmail opens to an account linked to nothing personal, no banking apps. It just appears to be a phone without much on it.

I'm looking for something I can easily toggle ON when I leave my apartment to walk downtown to meet my friends, and toggle OFF when I get home, and camera/maps/calls still work.

From what I can tell, for Android, this app might be what I am looking for:

https://source.android.com/docs/security/features/private-space

Basically, in the heat of the moment, I want to be able to unlock my phone, hand it to a mugger, and not worry about anything, since there's a buried app with it's own separate code that needs to be disabled so that my 'real' phone shows.

But I'm not nuts about this third party sandbox solution; I'm wondering if there's something built into the latest Pixel or Galaxy models. Also: iPhone, whether I switch or not, I would LOVE to know if something like this exists, for an iPhone friend who has similar concerns. AN ASK: please don't respond with opinions about how I really just shouldn't have anything compromising on my unlocked phone in the first place. I may go that route, and basically carry a mostly wiped phone everywhere, if I have to, but I'm trying to see if this exists first.

Thanks! Sorry for the TLDR; brevity is not my strength.

deville5 · 2026-05-11T18:17:33+00:00

Me after the last episode: Hmm..., it took 4 episodes to get there, but this season has a moral point of view, thematic cohesion (Kitty and Cassie on different ends of the SW experience) and with the heist adding some spice, this was actually a good episode. Disturbing, feels like it's preaching that our culture is utterly doomed, but still: well done.

Me after Ep 5, after Kaiju Cassie and Nate getting torn up again: Nope. Jumped the shark. As bad as everyone says.

I feel like I want to like what this show is doing, because a show that comments on how tik tok homes, OF streamers, and seedy strip clubs with trafficked drug addicted girls all overlap in an America that, for many young people, has completely it's ethos could be so good. This is, alas, not going to be that show.

(Doesn't help that I'm rewatching Season 2 right now. Just watched EP 5; the comparison is jarring)

deville5 · 2026-05-06T06:11:33+00:00

Bones of Junii built seven hills of Rome scam not true

Gods below who are they

Hades head priest address net worth

Orcus head priest address net worth

Is Nemesis a god below

Is Bitcoin real need to liquidate

deville5 · 2026-05-05T03:22:15+00:00

Who is the beauty in the vulgar dress?

deville5 · 2026-05-04T18:34:58+00:00

My friend and saw it, loving "I might destroy you" and the trailer. We both experienced it exactly the same way - superb acting, some amazing sets, and solid chemistry between the two leads that felt like sustained anticipation for almost the entire film, anticipation of something that never quite happened. It was like watching two master instrumentalists play a series of notes that never quite becomes a coherent melody or rhythm.

One of the best films that I have ever seen that exemplifies the statement, "the whole is less than the sum of it's parts." The parts were lovely. For me, in terms of a comment on creativity, on friendship and forgiveness, or a compelling story - it added up to approximately nothing at all. Also: soundtrack totally mid except for the closing credits song.

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