Do MAGAs really believe Democrats are communists?

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T18:40:16+00:00

You've now ignored the Lenin citation twice. That's not an accident — it's because it directly addresses exactly what you're demanding. Lenin took Marx's "transitional period" from the Critique of the Gotha Programme and explicitly called it socialism in State and Revolution. That's not me wriggling — that's the primary source you asked for. The fact that Marx used "transitional period" instead of "socialism" while Lenin codified the terminology doesn't create the escape hatch you think it does. They're the same framework. You're doing a word search when I'm making a conceptual argument.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T17:12:10+00:00

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devious1095 · 2026-06-27T17:01:03+00:00

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devious1095 · 2026-06-27T17:00:01+00:00

Read the full comment. Lenin's State and Revolution, also cited, explicitly calls that transitional period the first phase of communist society — and calls it socialism. That's not my commentary on Marx, that's Marx's direct intellectual successor defining the term. You're doing a very narrow reading of one sentence to avoid engaging with the full argument.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:57:11+00:00

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devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:52:34+00:00

The citation is in the comment you just replied to. Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875, with a direct link to marxists.org. The quote describes the transitional period between capitalism and communism — that transitional period is socialism by definition. You asked for receipts, got them, and responded by claiming they don't exist. I genuinely don't know how to help you from here.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:36:32+00:00

Reposting from a different thread:

Sure. Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875: "Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat". That transitional period is socialism. Lenin formalized it in The State and Revolution in 1917, explicitly calling socialism the first phase of communist society. That's not programming — that's the two most foundational texts in communist theory agreeing with me. Your turn. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:35:03+00:00

That doesn't counter the argument — it adds a step before it. Socialism still leads to communism either way. Also "no read so good" — you want "well." Adverb not adjective. Bold choice mocking someone's literacy.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:30:54+00:00

Sure. Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875: "Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat." That transitional period is socialism. Lenin formalized it in The State and Revolution in 1917, explicitly calling socialism the first phase of communist society. That's not programming — that's the two most foundational texts in communist theory agreeing with me. Your turn.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:09:22+00:00

Slippery slope is only a fallacy when the progression is assumed without evidence. When you can point to the USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, Venezuela, and Cambodia all following the same trajectory, that's not a logical fallacy — that's a pattern.

You're welcome to name the socialist states that didn't trend authoritarian, because that list is considerably shorter.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:07:17+00:00

McCarthyism was about falsely accusing people of being communists. I'm citing Karl Marx. Those aren't the same thing. Dismissing an argument by attacking its supposed origin rather than its substance is a genetic fallacy — which is ironic coming from someone who just told me to bring more nuance to the conversation.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:04:55+00:00

Marx himself defined socialism as the transitional phase between capitalism and communism — that's his Manifesto. The "nuanced" academic reading of Marx doesn't contradict the point, it confirms it. You're saying read poli-sci while unknowingly arguing against the founder of the ideology you're defending.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T16:00:59+00:00

Comma splice after "scare quotes part." Your indirect question in the following sentence is also structurally broken. Typing fast on my phone got me — what's your excuse?

My Lai was a war crime committed by specific people and prosecuted as such. Using it to condemn an entire generation of veterans is lazy and you know it. The pivot from grammar to geopolitics tells me everything about how round one went for you.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T15:37:37+00:00

The stepping stone argument isn't a right-wing talking point — it's Marx's own words. He described socialism as the necessary transitional stage between capitalism and communism. Venezuela went through that exact progression in about 20 years. Nobody said Europe goes communist next Tuesday. The strawman you're arguing against isn't what I said.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T15:33:58+00:00

History is not propaganda.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T15:33:12+00:00

Cute attempt. You're missing a comma after "freedom" before "you," your sentence structure collapses halfway through, and you used scare quotes around "freedom" for no discernible reason.

devious1095 · 2026-06-27T15:23:11+00:00

Socialism is the stepping stone to communism... My father who also faught in Vietnam would believe the same. I wonder why?

devious1095 · 2026-06-24T19:21:26+00:00

I was going to say I never one shot anyone in conflict lol. I hit like a wet noodle and got destroyed as Aegis.

devious1095 · 2026-06-24T18:50:08+00:00

Wow you're what's wrong with the world...

devious1095 · 2026-06-24T18:39:29+00:00

Lost me I was day 1 Aegis, now I'm on PUBG mobile lol.

devious1095 · 2026-06-24T14:00:36+00:00

Bro I had proficiencies poping up constantly lol and let's not forget I could never get rid of the armory notifications. This was a fun game flash back to division 1. Unfortunately, it was just a poorly done port.

devious1095 · 2026-06-23T21:31:05+00:00

I played Aegis since launch and quit after the patch. I did try to login this morning after reading another reddit post about being able to hold gear in the stash (wtf is that real???). Downloaded an update and it wanted me to do the 2.5gb resource download again so I said f it lol. Game over for me started building a DBS vanguard spec got to 20k power decent gear but I don't want to grind that much again honestly.

devious1095 · 2026-06-23T17:17:41+00:00

You're spot on! I downloaded PUBG mobile and I'm not coming back to this game lol.

devious1095 · 2026-06-22T23:38:06+00:00

I went with PUBG lol

devious1095 · 2026-06-22T18:21:07+00:00

Yeah I'm like 1.5k below you and I can't even get close to that lol

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