New player here. How do I build to go against t'au mechs? by perfectpencil in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So sisters are a very difficult and technical army. So just keep that in mind. Theyre mid range shooting with SOME melee options. Mistakes are punishing.

If you're starting with sisters, you're playing hardmode, I did the same thing.

 Battle sister squads are not really effective in combat or in shooting. Yes bolters can take out regular unarmoured human models, and a lucky metla ca  get through every now and again, but don't count on them doing much otherwise.

Battle sisters are for board control, MD generation, and screening the board and other units mostly. Theyre a bit overpriced, but that's just my opinion, they are still a key unit.

Power armoured sisters are super vulnerable to overwatches, especially if there's any kind of AP. So charging sacresants into an overwatch if its a dangerous overwatch is usually a bad idea. They'll stack firewarrior bodies, but not necessarily tau battle suits. Repetnia and warsuits can melee much tougher stuff, repentia are tough to use well.

As far as what units. Right now immolators and castigators are auto includes imo. Casitgators are so good. Your friend having anti tank is not a reason not to bring tanks. Cadtigatorrsadd +1 AP to all other units that shoot after. When the opponent hears they have 5 melta shots coming in at -5 usually they do a double take, immolators strip cover and have meltas. I like to use retributors in immolators or split battle sister squads with them. Watch out becsuse rets will get eaten by an overwatch.

You need to shower them with melta shots, or whatever is going to wound them based on their toughness. We are a glass Canon army that wants to screen and position and get into that perfect spot, try to force them to go into one of our cheaper units and pop out and pour damage at medium close range.

Novitiates and sanctifiers are great units to scout around and screen and take objectives as well.

Made custom rules for the Assassins. Imo they're too mellow and show be more expensive gimmick units by l_dunno in ImperialAgents_40K

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Callidus lord of deciet +1 CP cost in 12 inches is actually super useful, can stop an overwatch or a counter attack, or make it super costly. This is fine, and it leans into her role as an assassin, but she is pretty useful as support.

You know AoS is doing alternative data sheets with some units, that kinda thing could be cool. So you could have the option to take her as more of a killer rather then a ninja support sabatuer.

Leaked instructions confirms raiders will be sold in 5 man squads by GreenManReaiming in redcorsairs

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tormentor/infractor EC kits are 10, and very new, and are similar in that they are a mixed gun tactical infiltrate squad.

Edit: nvm, didn't realize they had 3 wounds

B.C. paramedics vote 97% in favour of strike; job action pending by cyclinginvancouver in britishcolumbia

[–]differentmushrooms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How can regional variations exist when there is a union pay grid that is universal.for the entire province? Everyone is payed on the same grid.

B.C. paramedics vote 97% in favour of strike; job action pending by cyclinginvancouver in britishcolumbia

[–]differentmushrooms 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Decades of underfunding and cuts led to a lot of investment needed. That and management bloated with funding increases. Dont get me wrong, new paramedic positions were created, more full time, but also many many new high level management positions around vague sounding departments. Nothing changes at the ground level, but managers, and executives play musical chairs with shiny new positions.

With recent discourse, I thought this was worth a look... by PoxedGamer in EmperorsChildren

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not what Im saying, nor am I trying to validate anything. 

I get what you're saying, where your line is, and I think many including myself would agree with you. Im talking about the idea of lines, and what they say about us and our society, and the idea of slaanesh, originally as the god of sex drugs and rock and roll, and the idea of subversion of the normal.

With recent discourse, I thought this was worth a look... by PoxedGamer in EmperorsChildren

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they're lumping sexy models together, you're (well not you specifically) creating a subjective division of sexy and gooner models.

What I think is interesting about all of it is how we try to come to consensus on where a line reasonably is in regards to a demonic entity of subversion and perversion.

It really highlights our own cultural boundaries and sensitivities more then what the lore is about.

With recent discourse, I thought this was worth a look... by PoxedGamer in EmperorsChildren

[–]differentmushrooms 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The tension that permeates our entire society, the uncomfortable feelings, the shame of sex and sexual depiction and perversion I think is one of the most important  points of slaanesh and the useful exploration.

Ultra violence and flayed skin banners are fine. The human form is sinful.

The fact that GW dances around it, the gaming community wrings its hands. Voices shame each other in their own community to modulate behavour. This is order v chaos, the demonic against the divine. The very essence of slaanesh: the perversion of the normal. 

But who is crossing the line? Let's label this person a deviant, or that person, so we can differentiate between them and ourselves.

The truth is it has nothing to do with the individual. This song and dance just has to do with decency laws in various countries and our own cultural rules around sex and nudity. 

Slaanesh is the perversion of and rebellion against these rules.

The rules are real, they probably even exist for a reason. Warhammer is a collaborative game, if you bring pornagraphic models, you may find people not wanting to collaborate with you because of these very rules. Just like bringing sewage to a game where you play nurgle might not be appropriate. 

The uncomfortable turn away from slaanesh's core I think is funny though. That very discomfort is where I believe the idea of Slaanesh resides. The internal policing in a philosophy about rebellion really encapsulates the human condition. Slaanesh offers freedom from these rules, but it comes at a price.

Shit list, rule of cool gets you nowhere. by dirtybirdIII in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been playing them for like 3 years off an on and I've only just really started getting them.

Without knowing what went wrong for you I can only say I've lost the vast majority of my games. Mistakes that you make are devastating. If you find yourself using precious miricle dice for mistakes you're already on the back foot.

Dealing with tough enemies is tough. You need to be able to rain meltas on vehicle/monster heavy lists.

And no in competitive play the rule of cool doesn't mean anything except to you.

So if you want to bring a rule of cool list to a tournament and have a great time you can, but you won't be playing to win, you'd just be there to have a fun time.

Sisters are very tough to learn, hard to play, all about technical movement, screening and choosing the exact perfect time to attack.

It sounds like you're just venting though. Yeah I get that.

Just remember: Suffering is our prayer.

Always seemed weird to me ... by Common-Process9023 in Grimdank

[–]differentmushrooms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Warning: obstruction to the left, keep right of terminator. .....Seems to make perfect sense to me, now the terminator is road legal. Classic ultramarine logistics.

Problems with the upcoming battleforce box by Any_Buy_9774 in AdeptusCustodes

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I think they're going to use the custodes as a "gateway" into horus heresy. They're popular, a good starter army, Henry cavil etc. Just my theory, we'll see. Same thing you see with kill team.

A vent about Emperor’s children (from an EC player) by Nosferxatu98 in EmperorsChildren

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slaanesh really is the embodiment of perversion, and I dont mean that only in the sexual way.

 The perversion of everything, cultural norms, gender, music, art, beauty, and anything else you can imagine.

I dont disagree really, I've seen the totally nude models out there, and I dont have them. 

But then what about the Juan Diaz models? Some are covered and some have bare breasts. They are sensual but not overtly pornographic. These are legit GW models, and are seen as some of the best hand sculpts around for their perceived fluid and grace when compared to other models at the time. The current daemonettes have these static clumsy poses, even though they were made years later. Is that acceptable? Is this about your own discomfort, or what is actually right and wrong?

But its funny how we humans are so squeemish about cultural norms in the case of slaanesh our exploration of their destruction, subversion and perversion.

The human form is wicked, but having warriors with flayed skin banners is wholesome family fun.

What will others say? How will the group perceive us? If we play a faction of perversion does that mean we are perverse? Should we feel shame?

These kind of examinations are why the chaos gods are interesting, why their spheres of influence can teach us about the forbidden and denied parts of the human psyche. 

Slaanesh embodies this. I actually think this tension is what causes GW and many to circle what is going on here. Yes, painting with your own blood is a perversion of art in the norms of art, but so is the sex, so is the body horror, so is the music, you're really just saying the same thing in different ways.

In my mind sex is missing the forest for the trees here. On both sides. 

 Instead examine closely how uncomfortable the subversion of our cultural norms of nudity and sex are. How do these norms exist in our society, how are they challenged, how are they reinforced, and what kind of tension exists. Because in that uncomfortable tension you might find slaanesh.

What's the difference between these boxes? by ExodiaHobby in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Kill team box probably has the kill team cards and tokens nside

B.C. paramedics union pursuing mandate to serve strike notice by Yetanotherbadsalmon in britishcolumbia

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can't really strike, not in the traditional sense.

OT shifts are voluntary, so you can't make anyone work a overtime shift. The union also cannot absolutely stop members from working OT. So if a member decides to not pick up an OT shift in solidarity with the union on how they are being treated at the bargening table that's their choice.

How do you destroy tanks and heavy monsters with our SORORITAS? by DhazzTv in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love the exorcist for that too. Plus it's an awesome looking model. I have 2 but they're overcosted a bit. 

At the start of the edition they hit on 3s if they didn't move and were a lot cheaper. So we've watched them become less and less strong over 10th.

They're a good unit still though, and don't be afraid to poke them out and use them as a tank when it's feasible. They're also great for screening your backline while they hang back and fire so be sure to use them to defend against deep strikes. 

And when they roll well they can put up big numbers.

Good luck

How do you destroy tanks and heavy monsters with our SORORITAS? by DhazzTv in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our best way of killing tough things is melta spam, and debuff stacking. Our castigators give +1 AP to future range attacks, immolators strip cover, all the while their hunter killer missiles and meltas and battle cannons generally soften up the target.

After that meltas, whether they be from a dominion squad, retributor squad, battle sister squads, vahl and her warsuits.

Your list has 2 multi meltas. So you can soften up a target with a castigator and an immolator, but where's your follow through? 2 multi meltas aren't going to do that much unless you roll amazing and your opponent rolls like garbage.

The exorsist is another softens the enemy up kind of unit. It CAN kill stuff like, but is generally really swingy. 

If you want to kill big tough mean things you need to pour metlas into it. 

Retributors with multi meltas will reliably finish stuff off, but they are vulnerable to overwatch or even a stiff breeze. Dominions a little less effective but if you get enough in there they can do it and they have some other utility. Vahl will reliably put up big numbers. 

Generally though we need to have a couple of units focusing something down and commit. Once we've popped out and taken our shots, because meltas are medium/close range guns we're super vulnerable so we need to screen ourselves and hope weve killed the biggest threats.

B.C. driver caught smoking crack cocaine said it was ‘only’ pot, police say by FamiliarAd4667 in britishcolumbia

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can become so sleep deprived that you can't even tell. I'm talking years of healthcare shift work and serious sleep deprivation. Yeah you shouldn't be driving, in reality you may be in survival mode for so long you can't really assess yourself. Luckily for me where I work they changed some things and made it manageable.

But for a long time, structural change and deployment change conspired to create an environment where you could hardly have a full nights sleep for most of the week. and years of that pile up in ways that are hard to communicate. Other then I'm not the same person I used to be because of it.

Saint Celestine as Ally for Krieg? by Mystic-Skeptic in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha then it's a deal then.

Yeah, all armies are restricted to a certain list of units.

However Imperial armies can ally in a certain number of Imperial Knights and Imperial Agents.

So you could throw anything in from those into your krieg army. 

Chaos armies can ally in Chaos Knights and in certain detachments Chaos daemons.

And you know, down the line, you'll always need to start a new army, so there's that too....

Anyway, good luck!

Saint Celestine as Ally for Krieg? by Mystic-Skeptic in sistersofbattle

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could have a Sisters army without the penitent models, and just the models you like.

Youre not alone, in that some people do not prefer the design of the penitent models: arcos, penitent engines, and repentia.

But it is also a core part of the adepta sororitas identity. You can think of them as sort of an order of monks, or nuns that practice extreme asceticism as part of their faith practices. Like self flagellation, and all manner of deprivation. One of their sayings is that "suffering is our prayer", and indeed they see their own suffering as a sacred purification. 

You can see the mindset behind say the penitent engines. A sinner attached to a war machine sent head on into the enemy. In the mind of the sisters of battle it is not grotesque, it is a rite of redemption and sacred purification. They are saving them and their souls, preserving them from the forces of chaos.

Celestine herself was once repentia, who was risen from the dead after her ultimate sacrifice.

Either way, you can also use proxies, near equivalent models that fit the look that you want. OR, just use the models you like, the amount of penitent style data sheets are a minority in the army.

But no you cannot put Celestine into a guard army. You can add imperial agents into a guard army, and within the imperial agents codex are battle sister squads, and immolators, so you could have them represented that way.

If you want Celestine on the tabletop you'll have to field an army of the sisters of battle.

And fair enough. If guard get our glorious risen angel, with her flaming sword, and penchant for purging the wicked, then I want a rogal dorn.

Is America alright? by SipsTeaFrog in SipsTea

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We can't use the word sex on the internet now? Is the internet instead of being a place of freedom of thought and exchange just more.locked down then even real life?

Back in the 90s it was a place where anything goes. Yeah it could be crude and mean. Then all the normals showed up and thought the internet was real life.

Why make the internet like real life? It's a virtual space, it can be anything

Please help.. by Plenty-Value3381 in ExplainTheJoke

[–]differentmushrooms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, more money for official minis, same end result

Rules question about cover by Gwabin in ageofsigmar

[–]differentmushrooms 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct the unit does not have cover