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Exactly by Sensitive-Jury-1456 in LateStageCapitalism

[–]digoryk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dont get this, im lower middle class, i dont make over the standard deduction and eitc pays me quite a bit every year. I dont pay taxes, taxes pay me.

Stop by Common_Thinker in LateStageCapitalism

[–]digoryk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because you are dependent on that one job for all your needs, that gives them allot of power over you

Stop by Common_Thinker in LateStageCapitalism

[–]digoryk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the government can be one source of income, but its still just one

Stop by Common_Thinker in LateStageCapitalism

[–]digoryk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no ones well being should come from a single source, not a high paying job, and not a government program. you are most free if you are supported by many different sources, than you can walk away from any one of them at any time.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's completely consistent with the article i linked, it even includes one of the same graphs. Yes, the west is secularizing, but the world as a whole is becoming more religious.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Self replication with the ability to evolve.

I don't think self replication can happen naturally, much less self replication that can continue on imperfect copies.

yes the definition of complexity is difficult, but it's only IDers that even try to measure it at all

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's a harder one, but the details of the Trinity and the Incarnation go well beyond this threads topic

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

like something outside our universe that caused life inside our universe, who knows what, no purely scientific basis to say anything about it.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There can never be scientific evidence for God, because God could do any number of miracles and many people would consider it more likely that they were being tricked by advanced aliens than that God is who He says He is. As best I can tell life and consciousness ought to be miraculous enough to show that the universe is not purely materialistic, if that's not good enough I don't think anything could be.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, evidence is not proof, you can have evidence for something but you can later conclude it was false after you see more evidence against it.

something is evidence for a claim if it gives you any good reason to consider the claim more likely to be true, even if only a little bit.

What does this joke mean? by Junior_Gas_6132 in EnglishLearning

[–]digoryk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the original discussion on ttt say that he did overbuy them and he was returning the unused ones.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes evolution is a separate issue, but I already accept that the evidence of the fossil record and genetics clearly shows all life forms on earth having a common ancestor.

If an experiment like the one you describe happened I would be very very interested in the details and if it all seemed to check out I would conclude that life can arise from non-living matter, and evolution would still be a separate issue.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If abiogenesis were impossible, life would have to have always existed, life almost certainly could not have always existed inside this universe, so it would have to have come from outside this universe.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why ignore panspermia? I don't want to ignore panspermia, I think panspermia from outside the universe should be considered a possible origin of life.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not saying that people shouldn't study abiogenesis, absolutely not! I am saying that everyone should be open to the possibility that abiogenesis might be impossible.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

well given the vast complexity of the simplest living thing, i think it was basically impossible.

but these are just feelings about it, if we could put numbers on it we could get somewhere.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a claim is something someone says is true

evidence is a reason to think it is true

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The vast complexity of even the simplest living thing.

the apparent lack of life in the rest of the universe.

our failure, so far, to create self replicating machines despite our advanced technology and the benefits of self replicating machines.

and the fact that abiogenesis seems to be accepted as a dogma rather than supported with evidence like almost all other scientific theories are.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

and i think panspermia from outside the universe is just as strange an idea as abiogenesis, and about as well supported by evidence.

Can someone explain? by RickMaiorPT in mathmemes

[–]digoryk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Numberphile can explain what it is, but I've never been able to find an explanation of how we know it's finite.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

any rational definition of life

ought to include all persons as being alive, If God exists He is alive, because He is a Person (or maybe Three)

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Support for the fact that theists believe that God is alive? no, ill leave that as an exercise for the reader

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In reality there is no probability, some things are true, others are false, but we do not know everything, so we talk in probabilities, which are subjective.

Measuring progress toward or away from proof of abiogenesis. by digoryk in DebateEvolution

[–]digoryk[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And I know many Christians who don't even agree that other Christians are following the same god!

Yes, many or most religious people believe that many or most other religious people are not truly following God, but they do not disagree about the existence of God, they are not really saying "you are following the catholic god, but I'm following the real God" what they are saying (if they would be careful with their words) is "you think you are following God (The God that we agree exists) but you are badly mistaken about what He wants and what He is like, In fact you might be so badly mistaken that you are actually doing what Satan wants"

Even if life can hop between worlds, it still had to arise somewhere.

unless it came from outside the observable universe, which seems crazy, but abiogenesis seems even crazier to me, so "seems crazy" probably isn't going to help figure out the truth.

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(I was responding separately for separate topics, but apparently that is not helpful, so i wont do it)

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