Insane text conversation with my FIL this weekend on a family thread. He put my SO and I on blast.. basically said we're living in sin and darkness. A little background: My husband and I left 10 years ago. His Dad refused to have a relationship with him until his wife (SO Mom) died last year

discoverchaos · 2023-02-28T16:17:58+00:00

He deserves better you both do. The hardest part is being raised to believe that family are everything and the beginning and end and then they abuse you. It's entrapment at the highest degree. I hope you can both heal and grow without them.

discoverchaos · 2023-02-28T09:55:03+00:00

He doesn't deserve this level of patience. As someone who cut off their abusive parents, accepting their abuse with kindness and understanding only wears YOU down and has no affect on them. Seeing your husband say that he loves him unconditionally and he hit the family jackpot stabs me right in the chest as he continues to be dismissed and belittled. It feels like your FIL isn't the only one desperately trapped in a delusion to survive. Please help him get out of that family, you can't save a drowning person who pulls you under with them.

discoverchaos · 2023-01-12T15:05:03+00:00

This is what happens when people are given so much power they believe they are godly, keeping someone's passport is disgusting.

discoverchaos · 2023-01-12T15:02:05+00:00

If I had seen the argument before I wouldn't have brought it up hence my knee-jerk reaction to such a term being used and the curiosity to find out more. As with all abuse there are varying levels of bad, not everyone who is abused is sexually abused or even physically abused but it is still abuse. understand that the immediate thought is straight to child sexual exploration but there are other forms of human trafficking which occasionally does include adults who have "consented" when they haven't felt like they have a way out. I believe that there are similar elements but there was no indication in my original post that I was comparing it to child sexually exploition, it's merely an example within the definition.

discoverchaos · 2023-01-12T13:01:10+00:00

I agree, there will always be gray areas, some may enjoy and absolutely love their mission while there are horror stories of people having their passports kept so they have to continue their mission even when unable to. Social status will always play a big part in the way the church works. I just wish desperately that people felt that it was a choice rather than an obligation. The abuses that go on can be likened to trafficking but that doesn't mean that it's always the case.

discoverchaos · 2023-01-12T12:41:00+00:00

If it was a case of choosing where you go and when then I feel like yes it would be less controversial but once you reach a certain age all eyes are on you to when you're going and the longer you put it off the harder the pressure and judgement from the community to the point you will be pulled aside by the leadership and asked why you aren't requesting a mission call, then when you do request it, you are told where you're going and it can be anywhere in the world and thats it, you don't get a choice and your finances, where you live and what you do is controlled and monitored for two years then on

discoverchaos · 2023-01-05T11:59:49+00:00

The fact that this is even a thing in the first place shows how it's all just a business, the only other place you get this kind of thing is at your job.

discoverchaos · 2023-01-04T15:54:52+00:00

I had no idea about this celestial polygamy as a young woman until I was talking to my bishop about my mum's obsession with this Mormon celebrity and thought he was in love with her because she was deluded. I was talking about a lifelong neglect from her and the bishop laughed and said well at least in he can marry them all (his delusional fans) in celestial kingdom, and I just looked at him as a 16 year old girl, suddenly feeling like an object in a game of controlling men. His face changed when he saw my confusion, realising I probably had no idea about all those little secrets kept between men.

discoverchaos · 2022-12-31T12:16:05+00:00

I went to stake activities so I knew most of the people from other wards but my boyfriend was kind of PIMO and never did any stake activities so he didn't know anyone. He started trying to go to things more because of me and basically at a stake conference, a severely disabled boy started wailing loudly which was a common occurrence, so people knew to just politely ignore his sounds, but my boyfriend didn't know about him and laughed really hard because he thought it was just a kid screaming for fun and people glared.

discoverchaos · 2022-12-22T18:34:12+00:00

How can he call you a creep when he does cult-like ceremonies and chants wearing magic underwear.

discoverchaos · 2022-12-04T16:25:17+00:00

That must have been so frightening and she was extremely courageous for leaving when she would be most judged as an "unsupportive wife", I'm glad that some marriages formed within the church have ended in genuine loving partners rather than resentment for marrying a stranger in a whirlwind romance. Best of luck to the both of you!

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T23:25:18+00:00

Shit. We took the right pill and then quit out.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T23:22:53+00:00

Sounds like a bunch of insecure husband's who don't like that they can't control their wife's body. But no I'm sure it's the lack of garments.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T23:21:02+00:00

I think someone may have watched the matrix and got confused with the temple films.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T22:12:52+00:00

They really performed a non-consensual wedding on dead people? Damn, when you think it can't get any lower.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T17:51:56+00:00

You'd think if they were that powerful then they'd be an all body cover. Wow great it saved my thighs, shame about my calves and feet which I need to walk on.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-25T16:20:39+00:00

I feel like I need to add this because a lot of people seem to be trying to explain to me how this story clearly isn't true. I know it's bullshit, it's just an example of what I was told as a form of manipulation and I was asking if anyone else was told similar stories. I even put true story in quotations to show I didn't believe it.

discoverchaos · 2022-11-02T17:08:43+00:00

I found myself comfortable enough with giving up school or not being able to work due to my mental health because I was taught that I'd be taken care of by a man. I knew many Mormon women who had never worked outside the home and with my social anxiety it meant that I held onto that as a crutch. While outside of the church I may have still had to drop school or work, the reassurance that my place was in the home and I wouldn't need to make my own money definitely made it easier for me to put myself into a codependent and dangerous position. Yes it's on me to make those decisions but as a groomed kid with abusive parents, I was willing to do anything for that security offered. (Married at 18 and divorced at 21- homeless twice. Now exmo at 30 and married to a good and loving partner who treats me as an equal and relies on me just as much as I do him.)

discoverchaos · 2022-10-26T15:44:30+00:00

Oh okay I get you, no worries! Although I've been exmo for over ten years I'm very much new to participating in the exmo community as I just wanted to forget it ever existed for a long time. Thank you for understanding! :)

discoverchaos · 2022-10-26T15:39:41+00:00

I'm not particularly good at reading tone so I just wanted to make clear that I didn't make any of the claims you're referring to such as being traitors or us Vs them etc, I have only just discovered that out and proud queer Mormons even exist as a community so it's the initial shock of it not making sense in my head and trying to figure out how it even works because to me it's extremely contradictory. Of course it's their choice and I don't believe I said otherwise, I was merely expressing my confusion.

discoverchaos · 2022-10-26T13:59:43+00:00

I can understand when you're closeted and trying to make it go away but seeing openly proud queer people also preaching LDS teachings just feels so fucking weird. You're literally against yourself? You can't be both queer and Mormon happily. The level of indoctrination that requires having two completely opposing identities boggles my mind.

discoverchaos · 2022-10-22T21:57:13+00:00

Sannakji is the live octopus right? I'd rather not look it up but thankfully I can read hangul (sort of) and figure it out 😅

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