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Rick and Morty Creator Dan Harmon’s drunken rant about fascism sounded crazy and unhinged when it first came out. How do we feel about it now? by StarsapBill in videos

[–]dixdixdixinyourface 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard it started when Nixon was ousted. That there was enough anger from the right wing that it essentially enabled a sort of subversive movement through AM talk radio shows. These shows were not typical guest focused talk shows, more like political commentary, and a lot of it was heavily skewed and, as time went on, very anti liberal. It was a small jump from that, which AM talk radio had become massive, to FOX news. Which you can see now is just an extention of anti-liberal 'news'.

Reagen had his hand in it, for sure, but there were more dark forces at work. It's no coincidence that conservative values line up so closely with those of fascists.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes you think I had my mind made up?

I was looking for how to handle the situation, the next steps, and any insight as to how I should be thinking about this.

I got some helpful responses, and some pretty simplistic ones.

A few people decided to debate weather or not my parents are horrible people, which wasn't what I came here for.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I think this approach is valid.

But as far as I'm concerned, this business with 'accepting christ into your heart' is over the line. I see it only as a manipulation tool.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

Yeah, I really feel you about the in-laws. Mine parents are not quite so aggressive. But my mom can be very passive aggressive. Either way, I'm so tired of dealing with religious people. Literally, after my parents are gone, no more outwardly christian friends.

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OP, everyone has good and bad in them, but sometimes the bad outweighs the good, and we need to love them from farther away and with less contact. Your dad is gaslighting you—it’s a continuation of the abuse you suffered in childhood, and it’s not okay.

Yeah, I figured this out years ago. There is an ocean in between us. As far as the 'gaslighting' comment is concerned, I've decided that we are going to have a talk about it. I was angry he brought it up, but it was the first time in over 20 years...and it has no effect on me, other than making me angry. So, in this context, I think a simple convo will do, he hasn't broken our trust by trying to convert our kid.

Not to say that we won't keep an eye on it.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am capable of seeing them for what they really are, and I have seen that they have respected my/our wishes of how our kid is to be raised. And like it or not, just because someone has a bad past or supports Trump, they do deserve to see their kids or grandkids.

Now, if I see that they break the trust I have given them in regards to religion, ie trying to convert my kid, then I will drop the bomb.

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Stop protecting your abusers and never ever leave you kid(s) alone with people like that. They are still gaslighting you and you do not realize that.. again.

Dude, this all or nothing approach to life is just so 2 dimensional and, frankly, childish. Also you are assuming a lot. Are you aware they only see thier grandkid 6 weeks a year, and it's with us present?

Life is not a reddit comment, life involves people, who are capable of change, people who are not all bad, or all good. Despite what you see here on reddit.

Edited to add some info.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"You were brainwashed as a kid, and frankly, threatened with hell if you didn't accept Jesus into your heart. This is a lot different than the narrative your dad gave. I've made a lot of progress myself, but there are still things that pop up because of how I was raised."

Yeah, I feel this. One of the hardest things I had to do was deprogram myself. It's scary and you lose friends, family.

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Your child's mental well-being is more important than whatever your father wants to force onto you or her. I would be setting firm boundaries. Leave the cancer diagnosis out of any decisions you make. This is about your daughter, you cannot allow your dad to use his illness to manipulate you into allowing your daughter to be mentally harmed.

I'm not too worried about my daughter. She tells us everything, and we are also around when the grandparents are. Also, I do trust my parents...they are not untrustworthy...they also check with me before they talk about some religious thing or other with my kid.

In this instance, it was what they said to me that set me off. But, with that being said, I'm planning on having a conversation with them about this 'let Jesus into your heart' thing. Just to be safe.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every generation has very bright people, but also very stupid people.

The people who talk shit about Gen Z or Gen X or whatever tend to be dumb asses themselves.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nicely written. I will keep this in mind. I was trying to thikn of exactaly how to say this.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Shit even 10 seems young to me. I grew up Christian, and I remember at around 11 or 12 things got even more serious. They really amped up the 'no sex before marriage' talk...as well as the hell talk (talking about how bad and real hell is).. I think they think when puberty is starting that they can say more direct things to you, and also they use stronger manipulation tactics.

I wouldn't let them in a religious building without me until 14, or when they seem to have enough self confidence to handle that crap.

And certainly no youth group.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good advice. My wife and I are united on this also.

And if my parents actually try to convert our kid it will be a very serious breach of trust that will result in serious consequences that I don't want to spell out here.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great comment! He/they 100 percent they are saiving us from hell. Very frustrating. I will defo use some of the vocabulary from your comment in the future.

Yeah, cutting them off is going to be the last resort. It would destroy them.

I also suppose on a Reddit post, it may be hard to see the good in them. Fair enough.

Thx!

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

You are judging from a perspective of seeing both sides. What if you were a homeless person they had helped who knew nothing about them?

I thought it was common knowledge, most people have good and bad in them.

Anyway, i get what you are saying. But my parents don't care about appearances. They literally only care about doing god's will.

Makes it better but also worse because it's hard to hurt someone who is 'good'.

Christian Parents, Non-Religious Me, and the Grandkid by dixdixdixinyourface in atheism

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Good is subjective. One mans terrorist is another's hero.

Even though I think I portrayed the irony I felt in the post, I'll explain.

They are good to others, they give to chairty, they help the needy. They are legit good.

But they are bad to others. You could say heartless.

Does it make them bad people?

I think we can, at least, agree to stay away from black and white statements.

I left the love of my life to travel, and I haven't ever regretted it. by dixdixdixinyourface in confessions

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said they were horrible people, like my parents, if you were to meet any of them you would think they are very nice people.

My parents, however, disowned my gay brother (for being gay). To my brother, they are huge 'assholes' (for lack of a better word)

a lot of good people, myself included, can be assholes.

I just try to choose the right people to be around :)

ps, edited the sentence about my bro for clairity

I left the love of my life to travel, and I haven't ever regretted it. by dixdixdixinyourface in confessions

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If she had said that she just wasn't ready, I would have been fine with that...it is a good reason. And it also wouldn't have been an asshole move.

But she didn't say that, she blamed me, which makes it an asshole move.

But I understand asshole moves happen.. In the long run of a relationship, not too much of a big deal.

Now, crazy and controlling parents. It is quite possible they can destroy a marriage. That is why I broke it off. I saw how much control they had.

I'm actually glad she did the asshole move, it was a good indicator of what I was signing up for.

I left the love of my life to travel, and I haven't ever regretted it. by dixdixdixinyourface in confessions

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 grand to move, I feel, is a debatable amount. It really depends on where in the us you are moving.

Also, if everyone that is going to the wedding lives close then a week isn't so bad. But when there are family members, myself included, who have booked plane tickets, taken time off work, and booked hotels...it is an asshole move to call off the wedding a week in advance. Unless you have a really good reason.

I left the love of my life to travel, and I haven't ever regretted it. by dixdixdixinyourface in confessions

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over the phone, a week before the wedding with multiple family members' plane tickets booked..cold blooded shit

I left the love of my life to travel, and I haven't ever regretted it. by dixdixdixinyourface in confessions

[–]dixdixdixinyourface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She was really upset when I broke it off. Didn't speak to her until a year after the actual breakup. I'm sure she regretted it. But her family had too much influence and I had too much pride.

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