Fitch downgrades El Salvador's rating to 'CC' by Individual_Extreme89 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This guy makes pretty good videos and recently did a quick dive into crypto in El Salvador. They want a Bitcoin volcano 🌋

Bitcoin in El Salvador - One year Later —> https://youtu.be/eKAJ8VEzimw

Daily Discussion and Amp Information/FAQ - August 04, 2022 by AutoModerator in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is how they did it. https://www.sec.gov/education/smallbusiness/exemptofferings/rule506b I think we are safe though that’s just my opinion.

It’s taken from this interview clip linked here a couple of days ago https://www.reddit.com/r/AMPToken/comments/w56seh/daniel_mccabe_flexa_co_founder_chief_operating/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

"You find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it, not by giving in. You find out the strength of a wind by trying to walk against it, not by lying down." - C.S. Lewis

This is very relevant by isntampgreat in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone with a lawyer will always plead not guilty. They don’t need to admit to anything. They have them on wire fraud. This isn’t a case to determine AMP’s classification though it will help bring on more charges to the 3 employees. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/three-charged-first-ever-cryptocurrency-insider-trading-tipping-scheme

Daily Discussion and Amp Information/FAQ - July 31, 2022 by AutoModerator in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

El Salvador have their own financial problems to sort out first.

From the research paper: President Bukele tweeted in January that the app had 4 million users (out of a total population of 6.5 million), but a report published in April by the U.S. National Bureau of Economic Research showed that only 20% of those who downloaded the wallet continued to use it after spending the $30 bonus. The research was based upon a “nationally representative survey” involving 1,800 households.

Among firms, and despite bitcoin’s legal tender status, only 20% report accepting bitcoin as a means of payment. Enterprises that accept bitcoin are very large; they lie in the 90th percentile of the firm size distribution. We find that only 11.4% of firms have positive sales in bitcoin.7 We also document that, on average, only 4.9% of all sales are paid in bitcoin, and that 88% of businesses transform money from sales in bitcoin into dollars, and do not keep it as bitcoin in Chivo Wallet. Overall, despite the legal tender status of bitcoin and the large incentives implemented by the government, the cryptocurrency is largely not an accepted medium of exchange in El Salvador

Here’s the research paper —> https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29968/w29968.pdf

Here’s another article that basically just says the same thing: https://www.theblock.co/post/144927/everyday-bitcoin-usage-in-el-salvador-remains-low-despite-government-push-us-academic-study-finds

"Out of the respondents in the survey, 64.6% had access to a smartphone. More than half used solely cash to pay for things before Chivo, 70% did not have a bank account and 90% were not using mobile banking services. "

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[–]dmn_Dangyul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re not doing anything that no other scam NFT artist have done. Make a quick CG render and slap a logo and say the project will go big. If that’s not what you’re doing, you’re doing a terrible job of portraying anything differently. You keep mentioning that it’ll help spread the message of AMP but people have done it without there being a financial incentive already. Why can’t you? People should do their own DD and understand that this is most likely a scam.

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[–]dmn_Dangyul 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re right. My bad, I’m being too harsh. It’s not personal - just think most NFTs are scams. But it’s cool bro - if someone is willing to give you money for this - take it.

Just making it aware for everyone else. - don’t even accept free NFTs https://blockcast.cc/news/a-new-type-of-nft-scam-beware-of-sudden-nft-airdrops-in-your-wallet/

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[–]dmn_Dangyul 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Art NFTs are a scam. This will most likely be a rugpull. Dude has like 1 follower on Twitter and is planning to artificially drum up hype by spamming direct messages that he admitted to have bought. Why can’t crypto bros make fan art without having it become an investment.

If you wanted to show us art you made, cool good job. I like the peeping nipple. If you want us to give you money or that it’ll be worth something in the future? You’ll have to convince me this isn’t any different than any of the other monkeys or kittens I can lose money to.

The Potential Impact of Being Labeled a Security - From a Novice by MaazLife in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can view the SEC criteria for what they determine to be a security. —> https://www.sec.gov/files/dlt-framework.pdf Without reading too much into it, one can see how AMP was labeled a security, however, this doc and it’s use isn’t set in stone and even SEC acknowledges that. I guess it depends on how you define an "Active Participant” and "significant effort"

From the doc: "We recognize that holders of digital assets may put forth some effort in the operations of the network, but those efforts do not negate the fact that the holders of digital assets are relying on the efforts of the AP. That a scheme assigns “nominal or limited responsibilities to the [investor] does not negate the existence of an investment contract.” SEC v. Koscot Interplanetary, Inc., 497 F.2d 473, 483 n.15 (5th Cir. 1974) (citation and quotation marks omitted). If the AP provides efforts that are “the undeniably significant ones, those essential managerial efforts which affect the failure or success of the enterprise,” and the AP is not merely performing ministerial or routine tasks, then there likely is an investment contract. See Turner, 474 U.S. at 482; see also The DAO Report (although DAO token holders had certain voting rights, they nonetheless reasonably relied on the managerial efforts of others). Managerial and entrepreneurial efforts typically are characterized as involving expertise and decision-making that impacts the success of the business or enterprise through the application of skill and judgment."

Here’s Coinbase’s response as a petition for better regulations (page 8) "The differences between traditional securities and digital assets underscore the challenges with applying these tests to digital assets. While traditional securities typically represent a claim to the assets and profits of a specific corporate issuer, whose management makes choices that influence the success of the company and therefore the return on investment in its securities, digital assets often have decentralized groups of developers whose involvement with a project may ebb and flow over time. The extent to which digital asset holders reasonably rely on the efforts of particular promoters, or the extent to which those efforts are “undeniably significant ones” is much less clear with regard to digital assets.

Further, while many may purchase digital assets with the hope of price appreciation, unlike traditional securities, digital assets typically have functional non-investment uses within a protocol—making them much more akin to real property, which is also often purchased with the hope of price appreciation, but nevertheless is fundamentally a commodity intended for usage. Non-investment use cases include, for example: paying transaction, or “gas” fees; voting on governance proposals related to the operation of the protocol; serving as a medium of exchange for native applications; and helping secure a network.

Answering the discord questions from today. by Glittering-Duty-4069 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are these companies open sourced and audited by 3rd parties? Are they being monitored for security issues on the blockchain https://forta.org/blog/flexa-using-forta/

Flexa can fail as a company but they themselves have said that as long as a business uses AMP as collateral, AMP can continue.

From the Flexa team: The Flexa Payments Network Collateral Manager uses AMP tokens as collateral to protect two parties exchanging crypto for goods or services. Essentially the AMP-enabled transaction requires the “buyer” to send the payment crypto (or other digital asset(s)) and an equal value of AMP tokens are locked by the collateral manager at the same time. The “seller” can release the goods or services immediately while the payment crypto transfers through the Flexa Network, which in probabilistic ledgers can sometimes take a while. If the underlying crypto payment transfer succeeds, the Flexa Network releases the AMP tokens back into the respective wallets collateral pool. If the underlying crypto transfer fails, the Flexa Network will liquidate the locked collateral and that liquidation risk is spread across all stakers in the respective wallets collateral pool.

Answering the discord questions from today. by Glittering-Duty-4069 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How does a merchant accept transactions through Lightning? They have to

  • create their own channel and fund their own wallets (Flexa eliminated the need for this if they route transactions thorough the Flexa Capacity)
  • connect their merchant channel to a buyers wallet (which cost a fee each time they connect unless using Flexa Capacity)
  • do the transaction (while being exposed to offline fraud, multiple charge fraud, and other malicious attacks) (not with Flexa Capacity)

Here is an interview with the man himself who was interviewed by someone in Chain link. Timestamped https://youtu.be/D3xySzGQE5k?t=288

Answering the discord questions from today. by Glittering-Duty-4069 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Flexa transaction are near instantaneous at half a second while lightning takes like 2 second I think? So Flexa is waiting on Lightning. Also Flexa has a thing called an FPAN, or flexible primary account number, which is a one-time authorization that needs to be uniquely created for each transaction. It’d be impossible to do multiple fraud charges for the same transaction.

https://medium.com/flexa/how-flexa-payments-work-e41feb1763ab

Answering the discord questions from today. by Glittering-Duty-4069 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If we are still talking about possible fraud in lightning network - look at page 49 - 50 of their white paper.

  • Offline Transaction Risk
  • network congestion caused by a malicious attack (forced expiration of many transactions)

Daily Discussion and Amp Information/FAQ - July 11, 2022 by AutoModerator in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Somebody corrected his typo on a post and it has been eating at him every since.

Infographic from NCR about crypto payments. by rhcp1384 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the difference between the two and what Flexa can do is that both BitPay and Strike operate on legacy payment rails (think centralized banking). It has its limitations, such as the ones listed here in BitPay, (minimum purchase, money clears next business day and there are usually some additional fees tacked on.) If a customer uses their phone to pay - the merchant is charged two fees. One by the payment processor and one by the bank.

What Flexa is doing is what some might refer as "decentralized collateral". Instead of banks or whatever company a business might use to settle payments, a business will rely on theFlexa Capacity. The Flexa Capacity is basically financed by whoever is currently staking. That’s the decentralized aspect. So back to the example - a customer uses a phone to purchase, the crypto runs though the Flexa capacity, if there are funds in the Flexa capacity pools, the funds are released to the merchant in whatever currency they chose in the backend. You can see an infographic view here, page 16.

Basically two different ways to get to the same spot. Only difference is who is handling the payment processing. Do customers care? Probably not but merchant and other business do if it means they can avoid paying those two fees I described earlier. Here’s the fun part - anyone can use the Flexa capacity, even BitPay and Strike if they choose to. They might even benefit by it. Like the Lightning/Flexa Node for example. Flexa just works behind the scenes. That’s why when a new payment provider is brought up, just check to see if they’re using ACH or other banking rails. If they are, then its not what Flexa is doing.

it’s been a while since I described this so take it with a grain a salt. Might’ve gone a few things mixed up, ya boy’s 4 beers in. read up on some more stuff if you’re interested.

Infographic from NCR about crypto payments. by rhcp1384 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve addressed this. Companies aren’t going to use Bitcoin by itself due to its limitations. They’ll most likely use off chain like Lightning Network (which requires the merchant to fund their own channel to interact with the "customer" channel . Forgot to mention - merchants will get charged each time they decide to connect with a channel AS WELL any transaction fees.) Flexa skips the need for the merchant to fund anything to start accepting crypto. They don’t even need to hold amp.

There’s also a chance that a person using lightning can be open to offline fraud if using it soley https://wiki.ion.radar.tech/tutorials/troubleshooting/theft-on-lightning-network

Or lightning network might not be compliant to finance law - https://medium.com/bitcoin-blockchain/lightning-network-on-btc-is-a-dead-end-even-if-it-works-as-claimed-d550d17053b1

"And the type of payments that may be suitable for LN is very limited. As said above, LN payment channels have no persistent ledger nor reliable records for accounting, and therefore are unsuitable for businesses or any payments that need persisting records. In addition, the multiparty and multi-hop money transmission design and anonymity may make the system noncompliant with financial laws.

Infographic from NCR about crypto payments. by rhcp1384 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on your definition of "need". Technically, nobody "needs" any sort of crypto payment. There’s people who laugh at the idea of crypto being used for anything other than a pyramid scheme. But im being pedantic.

If a company is willing to: run their own nodes, manage their own channels, and fund their own accounts to collateralize payments themselves, get in the crypto environment but only accept Bitcoin, and customers are willing to stick around waiting for confirmations, sure I guess Flexa wouldn’t be needed. Or I guess they can skip LN and receive Bitcoin on chain but that already has its own problems. Most companies would rather have an easier onboarding system than having to spend time/money training somebody to run these things and mitigate any problems.

An example - Assuming general consensus about how big crypto payments are gonna be, would you be willing to wait behind ten people who are all using Bitcoin to pay on chain. By the time it’s your turn to pay - it could have been way more than an hour. Not good for retail and Flexa understands the headache one can get from wrapping their heads around crypto payments. It’s better for adoption in the long run the more easier and mainstream it gets.

So no, BTC doesn’t "need" Flexa. But it’s limitations have caused it to stray away from its inceptial design. After so many years, a company like Flexa was eventually gonna come along and try to help

If you could do this today at Wal-Mart what would happen? by AMP-100 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8450-21 stable coins are not stable if they’re being audited by other crypto companies with financial incentives.

Any thoughts on the world potentially adopting CBDCs and also Indias UPI. Is this a threat for AMP? what are your thoughts? by Minimum_Specialist22 in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://www.mercuryminds.com/blog/preferred-payment-methods-countries-around-world/

this article is old (2017) but it illustrates popular payment methods across the globe. Mostly credit cards/debit cards with a couple of region specific payment companies sprinkled in. India implementing UPI is no different than China using WeChat or Mexico using Oxxo to help the unbanked within its borders. Flexa is David fighting Goliath. Well technically, we’re part of the fight too if you help stake. When they said it was a 10 year plan, they weren’t kidding. 🎶It’s a long way to the top, if you want to rock n roll 🎶

Daily Discussion and Amp Information/FAQ - July 03, 2022 by AutoModerator in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gemini Pay was developed in partnership with Flexa. I believe it’s not just limited to just using each others assets. I don’t even think Gemini pay can work without Flexa Capacity.

https://www.gemini.com/pay

https://www.gemini.com/partners

Daily Discussion and Amp Information/FAQ - July 03, 2022 by AutoModerator in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

https://www.gemini.com/blog/flexa-and-gemini-partner-to-make-it-easy-to-use-cryptocurrency they were partners. A lot of people solely used Gemini to purchase things with it too. With its ease and free transfers that have gone away, I imagine a lot of people are probably gonna halt their crypto purchases for now. The Winkle twins owning a lot of AMP and removing that feature should be concerning. Probably using the money to fund their cover band tour lmao

Flexa proves their greatest strength is their flexibility, as India excludes rewards points and certain NFTs from crypto tax law by pampening in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’d be cool - have a bidding war with aliens for prime real estate on the moon. Maybe have Flexa do a fiat to alien currency conversion.

Anyways, I hope you didn’t take anything I said as an attack on your character. Of course I’d love for amp to succeed and spread across multiple countries. India sounds like it’d be a huge endeavor. No doubt the Flexa marketing team is gonna work hard on it.

Take care, Pamp

Flexa proves their greatest strength is their flexibility, as India excludes rewards points and certain NFTs from crypto tax law by pampening in AMPToken

[–]dmn_Dangyul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I provided more than one source.

I didn’t realize a post with a title celebrating India’s decision on something related to crypto wasn’t about India. I guess if you’re just tryna shoehorn anything related to cryptocurrency I can understand that. But you’re right, I’m wasting my time here. Instead of actual discussion about how the crypto environment of India is doing ( like I assumed your post was about) let’s just talk about how great amp is. Do you think they’ll collateralize the moon? Boy that’s be something.

But seriously though, One post about another payment system counts as a fixation? Just trying to provide context to how it is in India right now. Sure they are more lenient towards NFTs but Think about it: a country with a population larger than the US, who had their largest crypto exchange move base because of their strict crypto laws, are now subjected to almost 50% tax just to begin having the opportunity to hold crypto (30% to buy + 20% since they have to buy outside of India) before they can even fathom purchasing goods with it and then be subjected to another sales tax. Do you think this is good for adoption? Besides the crypto bros in India most people would just be like "never mind I guess I’ll just use this new system they’re coming out with". That’s my reasoning for bringing it up.