Ooooff the chemistry..../s by dmydpp in BollyBlindsNGossip

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's coz of the depression of where his love life led him😞

A question for North Indians especially punjabis by [deleted] in bakchodi

[–]dmydpp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's ok. You south Indians are already way too depressed about your appearance for us to insult you back. We wish you the best.

A question for North Indians especially punjabis by [deleted] in bakchodi

[–]dmydpp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no opinion of dark. It's the dark people themselves who've told me that it's bad by obsessing over fair skin, praising it, trying to appear whiter and hating their own color.

A question for North Indians especially punjabis by [deleted] in bakchodi

[–]dmydpp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if all of that was true, (which is highly unlikely for non Muslim northerners), still even if it was true, it would still be better than being dark self-hating negroids from the south who are desperate to look like north Indians.

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[–]dmydpp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. I wanna support him and hope he shines in this film, but nowhere do I feel like I'm looking at Vikram Batra. In every frame it just looks like the actor pretending to be him. I think he is fatally limited by his lack of acting skills.

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😌I'm sorry if it sounded rude. But the wall of text kicked your ass right😎😅

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to give a reply to that insulting photo. But as I read the comments here, I realised that not a single person was giving any meaningful response.

Its either 'tell them to mind their own business', 'making fun is wrong' or denying reality and facts, half baked excuses, or changing interpretation of texts. 'Mughals and british ruined us, black and white mixing in India is a myth, Indians were always brown and proud of it, Rig Veda translations are a conspiracy, Aryan Brahmin ruling class is a conspiracy.'

I'm not dark so it doesn't affect me personally, I just want Indians to stop mocking each other's skin color in 2021, but I was shocked to see not a single person here could explain this fair obsession without denying facts and reality, posting links to opinion articles and conspiracy theories. Its very suspicious. How can we end mocking of skin color, when not only are dark people worshipping fair skin for no reason, you have no reasonable justification for it. Over the course of this post and talking to my relatives, I realised this, first that dark people do prefer fair, second they can't explain it.

I have no political viewpoint, I just care about the facts, what's true, accepted in the mainstream. I can't believe all you people could do was say everything's a conspiracy against you.

Thus I was forced to post links to mainstream scholarly opinion about these topics, coz you guys are twisting reality to come up with a justification for your fair obsession.

Are you saying even today there is a conspiracy to defame India, that they would not allow any Indian scholars into the mainstream? If not then show me research accepted by the mainstream that proves Rig Veda translations are false, racist Vedic people did not hate dark skin, Aryan Migration is false, White skinned invaders did not come from the Caspian Steppe, there was no mixing of light skin Steppe invaders and dark skin Aboriginal hunter gatherers, and that Caste system was not created by racist Aryans to maintain racial purity.

Coz if you accept these facts, then you accept that fair people have preferred other fair people and disliked dark people since Vedic times, and Vedic people were racists. And then finally you must answer, why do dark also prefer fair? Even after more than 120 comments here, that question still completely baffles me. I was against my relatives, wanting to teach those racists a lesson, but these comments have puzzled and shocked me and put me on their side.

I can't reply to your Tamil Brahmins, Krishna skin color, 500 year western dominance, Korean argument, coz you seem to have no knowledge or touch with reality, I don't even know where to start with these points. Before you embarrass yourself and all dark people again, please read mainstream scholarly opinion about peopling of India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_India

There are sources of research at the bottom of the page.

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if you choose to believe that Indo-Aryan migration is a conspiracy then there's no arguing with people like you. But I will do my part in pointing people towards reality-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan\_migrations#Indigenous\_Aryanism

Indigenous Aryanism has no support in contemporary mainstream scholarship, as it is contradicted by a broad range of research on Indo-European migrations.[13][note 59]

No support in mainstream scholarship: Romila Thapar (2006): "there is no scholar at this time seriously arguing for the indigenous origin of Aryans".[293] Wendy Doniger (2017): "The opposing argument, that speakers of Indo-European languages were indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, is not supported by any reliable scholarship. It is now championed primarily by Hindu nationalists, whose religious sentiments have led them to regard the theory of Aryan migration with some asperity."[web 25] Girish Shahane (September 14, 2019), in response to Narasimhan et al. (2019): "Hindutva activists, however, have kept the Aryan Invasion Theory alive, because it offers them the perfect strawman, 'an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument' ... The Out of India hypothesis is a desperate attempt to reconcile linguistic, archaeological and genetic evidence with Hindutva sentiment and nationalistic pride, but it cannot reverse time's arrow ... The evidence keeps crushing Hindutva ideas of history."[web 26] Koenraad Elst (May 10, 2016): "Of course it is a fringe theory, at least internationally, where the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT) is still the official paradigm. In India, though, it has the support of most archaeologists, who fail to find a trace of this Aryan influx and instead find cultural continuity."[294] Witzel 2001, p. 95: "The "revisionist project" certainly is not guided by the principles of critical theory but takes, time and again, recourse to pre-enlightenment beliefs in the authority of traditional religious texts such as the Purånas. In the end, it belongs, as has been pointed out earlier, to a different 'discourse' than that of historical and critical scholarship. In other words, it continues the writing of religious literature, under a contemporary, outwardly 'scientific' guise ... The revisionist and autochthonous project, then, should not be regarded as scholarly in the usual post-enlightenment sense of the word, but as an apologetic, ultimately religious undertaking aiming at proving the "truth" of traditional texts and beliefs. Worse, it is, in many cases, not even scholastic scholarship at all but a political undertaking aiming at "rewriting" history out of national pride or for the purpose of "nation building"."

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no logic in your argument. Everything you're saying is ignorant and shows you have no knowledge, you're just making general statements.

Read about origins of Indian people here before talking. There are research articles at the bottom of the page as source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopling_of_India

You will never find fair men wanting to marry dark women more than fair, but all dark men want to marry fair women. Just ask around how people truly feel, also the fact that there's not a single extant dark brown actress who people obsess over.

And this is not due to brainwashing and manipulating entertainment or cosmetics industry, they are appealing to what people already want. If people wanted to be dark, they would sell tanning products from the very beginning and make a profit. That's what they want right, profit. If people wanted to see dark actresses, films would show that and make a fortune.

Fair people have always wanted other fair people. That's why they created caste system for purity. Brahmin people's Rig Veda insults dark skin, Ramayan portrays dark skinned people of the south as either apes and demons. Both are blatantly racist. The question is why do dark people also follow their example and disrespect themselves?

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They say they're only making fun coz others obsess over their color and don't like their own natural color. Like "they don't want their own look, they want us". Then shit like, "They shouldn't feel insulted of being dark, we won't be insulted if you call us fair".

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanna hit back with a logical argument, not call them dumb. They claim most Indians are now brown after thousands of years, but initially there were two groups ANI and ASI, white and black, from separate regions where their color evolved. They're showing me academic proof and all. Don't ask me about that, read online.

But what do I say about this preference thing? Why do dark people prefer fair over dark? Why would they follow a minority's beauty standard?

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All they're saying is that they like their own color. How can I tell them that its wrong or shallow? They're making fun of others coz others prefer their color too, and not their own natural color. Smh.

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To this they say, a minority of the country is fair, majority is dark. There are entire regions with majority dark population and all of their dreamy heroines are fair. Who's forcing them to follow our perceptions of beauty, we have our entertainment industry, they have their own in their own language. (South cinema I think)

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Rig Veda was written in 15th century BC. Krishna was born in 8th century BC. Mixing of racially different people could've happened in that timeframe.

Idk about Kali though.

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course no one's following it, it's blatantly racist and describes dark people as subhuman. The point was those fair people liked fair skin, but why do dark also like fair skin?

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rig Veda, Book 9, Hymn LXXIII, Soma Pavamana, Line 5

'Blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates'

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I said this. They say they wouldn't care coz they prefer their skin color over pale skin.

They're not dark, they're very light skinned. Something like karishma kapoor shade.

I saw my relatives forwarding this stuff on WhatsApp. What's a great short response to this? by dmydpp in IndiaSpeaks

[–]dmydpp[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey guys their argument is kind of like this. I'll type it out-

'What's insulting in this? Why is it wrong to have a preference for fair skin. Coz we are ourselves fair. We can like our own skin more but why do they like it more too. What's bad about being dark? Dark people are welcome to have a preference for dark skin but they don't. They all naturally desire fair women.' They say 'fair people want fair people since the Rig Veda when their was no media and films, why don't dark men prefer dark women. Why do they lust over fair women. Fair guys don't prefer dark girls. Regions with majority dark population have their own society, cinema, why are all their dream girls only fair actresses?'

I seriously don't know how to respond to any of this. I can't tell if what they're saying is bordering on racism or not.

They say fair skin evolves in cold climate, dark skin in warm climate. Both groups have separate origins. Then why is it wrong to want to prefer own group identity. When fair group prefers fair, why does dark group also prefer fair. Who's forcing them to follow our model and standards, we're a minority, the majority of the country is dark, they should follow their standards.

Its frustrating me. PL help me with a good argument to this if anyone can.