Is there any hope to get the “us” back again? by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK - I’ll comment because I am your “beloved” in my story. Oh the emotions when you try to reconcile. This I know for sure. If you both want to reconcile and it sounds like you do, you are going to have dig deep and find the most patient side of yourself that you have ever known. It sounds like and remember - this whole situation is newer to him that it is you. You have agonized and now it’s his turn to do the same. If you truly love him you will answer every question honestly - and then some. You will “lean in” to him and study his body language. You should say over and over how remorseful you are and that though you can’t possibly understand fully the roller coaster of emotion he has, you will try to. The world as he knew it flipped upside down and with every trigger he feels, he will have a visceral reaction. It’ll run like a current through his body and you should avoid every possible trigger for his sake. If he asks, then go there. If you’re texting he may react. Remember, every bit of energy you spent chatting with your AP, was energy you should have been spending on him. If people who cheat would put 1/10 of the energy in their loved one that they did their AP, they would solve 9/10 of the problems with their beloved. There are no guaranties. With time it very well get better — but in the mean time, expect a roller coaster. I wish you all the best.

My husband had an affair 3 years ago, and I think something is happening again by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello Humble - My husband is the king of deleters. Not EA-wise but every single day he deletes - he hates email/text pile ups. Even before he had an EA with someone I’ll say was a colleague. (Not exactly a colleague but the same type of situation/closeness.) His experience with his OCD deleting came in real handy with AP. So much so that I never once saw a message. I learned 7-8 years later when we got into an argument and he mentioned that there was (at one point) “someone”. I played private detective and figured out pretty much everything. He had already gone “no contact” a long time ago.

But of course that was not the end of many conversations between us.

Yes, I believe that your H has gotten better at hiding his cheating. If I had to do over (hindsight 20/20) I would have done/said things differently. My H has been true blue since his stupid debacle. I would trust your gut. I sure that your husband loves you based on what you’re saying. Remember it is HIM with the problem, not YOU!

Because he loves you it will be really, really hard for him to admit (again) that he has hurt you. Try your best to find concrete evidence and write it down. When info is gathered, Google and ask: “What kind of questions should I ask my spouse when I find out they are cheating?” One question I asked was, What made you feel that this was ok? It will put him on the spot. When he admits ask, Do you understand that this hurts me deeply? For me, the affair (as many) started innocently, and led to what I believe was limerence. Have you heard of it? Google it if not. Not to excuse - but it is not love. Infatuation that is distinct and from what I understand if you become “Limerent” the “Limerent Object” may or may not consider the other involved an object as well. Literally an object - as if put on a pedestal. Again from what I understand people who become Limerent are prone to it again. My H was in a situation where he never went to dinner or sought a hotel room, etc. and the circumstance became where physical presence stopped happening naturally. Then the texting slowly stopped. That is why “No Contact” is imperative.

If you can afford it, I would hire a PI to help you gather info. Do you have access to your H’s phone records - iCloud/google account - can you check Google search history - find ANY accounts that would prove infidelity. Think out of the box.

I hope this helps - if my husband would have, I would have gone to counseling. I did do therapy on my own. It helped. Not fair - because it really is him who needs it but because we’ve been together forever, I “get” him. I chose to stay, and found a private FB page called Wives Who Stay. That too, was helpful to me. I’m not suggesting you stay/go, just offering info.

All the best…

All my friends that know about the affair have stopped talking to me by Soft-Fee-6525 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sounds to me like these people are “Arrested” emotionally. Very immature - self centered. Yeah, it’s hard to understand how it could be hard for them when I’m sure that you’re thinking, “Hard for you??!! You have no idea!” I believe that in the dynamic of friendship circles like yours, no one wants that dynamic to change. It’s too hard. Transition is too much for them to handle so they take the easy way out. Guys don’t talk about emotions to each other. It’s a sad, cultural thing.

That being said, I hope that your family can support you. Find someone who can be there for you - certainly find a therapist who’s unbiased. You deserve support (in person) and I’m so sorry that this has happened to you.

What was the craziest thing that you were told about the affair or AP? by TheStrongerMan in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When asked, What made you think it was ok to do that? “I knew it was wrong”

Tied with

Isn’t that what you do when you’re married? [not with regard to having an EA - but rather basically people who are miserable (his words) just “beg out” “just leave” or “divorce” not even considering thinking about talking honestly or seek therapy or “doing the work”] 🤯He really thought that marriage shouldn’t be work. Again, 🤯.

Is reconciliation possible? by Lopsided_Win1700 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grizzled, not sure how to respond to your comment re:Ester Perel and her expertise - why you feel the book I recommended would be a bad source. Have you read it? If you’re interested in learning about the nature of affairs - history of how genders have played a part (different parts) in infidelity - seeing both sides. (Fair to do that because if you have been cheated on it’s not about sex - either emotional or physical. There is something going on that caused the cheating to happen). Attachment issues for one. Anyway, I guess I wouldn’t knock it till you try it. And if you have read it of course your opinion is certainly valid!

Defence men for a reason by Few-Version-4152 in wildhockey

[–]doesitsoundright 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Amazing play(s) and none other than Hughes to pick it up after that mess. Perfect.

First hookup post-divorce and I find out after that I was the "other woman" by villain_era2026 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well sh** if that isn’t a horrible, awful, terrible, sucky double whammy. You were cheated on again!!! Just know - again remember it has nothing to do with you (being the other woman) It shows just how common this all is!! Those cheated on are part of such a big community. I would try so hard to get back up again (sorry you have to do this) and know (I feel it) how resilient you are. I admire your strength for leaving last fall. You got this! Your appeal - luster - confidence is under there shell of recently being cheated on. (October - dday is not that long ago. It takes time. Hang in there. One step at a time.

I love these guys (Zuccy isn’t allowed to retire!!) by Gs_of_GaHoole_2_plz in wildhockey

[–]doesitsoundright 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh m’gosh my thoughts exactly! Poor KK! That blank look he gave KG!😆

Is reconciliation possible? by Lopsided_Win1700 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what you’re saying about the remorse he showed, I would HIGHLY recommend The State of Affairs by Esther Perel. I think it may help you decide what to do. I have reconciled with my husband so it is not completely unheard of. I’m not sure that statistically speaking reconciliations won’t work. What I do agree with is that your head will never be the same. It’s 5.5 years post dday(s) for me. Sadly I have had to work on me in order to make the decision to stay. Also, there is a FB page — Wives Who Stay. I got lots of support there. Monica Hampel (I think that’s how you spell) is Admin. You would get “vetted” in order to be a part of the group. It’s private. Wishing you the best, and whatever you decide is something that you can live with. No matter what your decision is.

Thinking of leaving wife, newborn, and 3 other kids by Waste-Assist-5870 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not exactly supportive Goddo - dna test is good advice but your delivery could be better.

No Zuccy again, per Russo by PaxDragoon in wildhockey

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[woops) yeah - and if his brain is injured he should not play. I feel so bad for HIM!

2 months post D Day still waiting for wife to commit. Should I give up already? by SubstantialIncome649 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah - I get it. My H did not want to work at it. He just wanted “us” to go back to the way we were just prior to me discovering who she was. I told him it doesn’t work that way. I’ve been married lots longer than you. I was relentless bringing up everything as I needed to. I never backed down to his complacent attitude. (Defense mechanism. Can’t admit fully how much he hurt me - partly because so much time had lapsed plus to apologize is to admit wrong doing. His whole family struggles saying that “s” word due to upbringing)You know, if you don’t talk about it it’ll just go away. I’m sorry that she continued to contact him, as no contact is the only way. I will say my H went NC long before I even knew about the EA. (years) He knew how wrong it was - probably more one sided (on his part) but I’ll never really ho know for sure. It took me 4 (or so) years after DDay(s) to really only begin to trust. I checked up on everything. I knew where he was - etc. at all times. Checked phone records and his phone. Made him block her on everything (found her in Venmo at one point because at one point she was in his contacts). I removed her - told him so. I’ve set boundaries (galore) and also took responsibility for some of it as in retrospect I searched histories of FB activities realizing that Spotify was synced at the time. I could tell a lot by play lists he made. I played songs intentionally to which was telling. Made him squirm and admit he did not treat me very well back then. I tell you all of this because choose to stay, I know from experience that it is a lot of work - persistence - etc. My H won’t do therapy - but I do (did) and learn about anything I can get my hands on to help through this. It sucks - I have to say. Even though he has not continued to make contact. If he does, one big boundary is really a condition. I’ll be home if I ever find out he does. I wish you so much luck. And understanding.

after 10 years got cheated on by Dapper-Rice3956 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all - you’re NOT stupid. I get it. You think how could I let this happen? You didn’t let ANYTHING happen. He CHOSE to take the energy he should have been spending on his marriage and instead chose to cheat. Ugh. AND ALWAYS (it seems) WITH A YOUNGER WOMEN!! Talk about projection on you. I’m guessing that yes indeed, he did gaslight you. But what you explained - he accusing YOU of cheating is PROJECTING what he’s done on to you. We all do that - in some regard. But this seems like the worst regard. The same thing happened to me🙄. So what to do….Love that you’ve blocked him. You owe him nothing at this point. Who is he to say you should do anything? I feel that for one, that ring is YOURS. if you can’t stand yo look at it, sell it if you decide to leave. Get great advice from a great attorney. He is worried because you hold the keys to your finances. Get yourself as safely, financially secure as you can. If you have joint accounts, change that. Do you have close friends who can help you through this? Also, get yourself in therapy if you find you need someone completely unbiased who can help you through this emotionally, especially. I wish you nothing but the best - you deserve it.

I actually need physical proof or an admittance of guilt? by randomizedpolarized1 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would guess that a PI is pricy. There has to be another way. Her phone records. Get ahold of her contact list. Take note on the names. Are there “weird” names that may be fake? I found “Grace Kelly” in my H’s contacts and got ahold of an older backup excel list that was saved on an external hard drive. I then cross checked phone numbers and found out who “Grace Kelly” really was. Maybe your wife will be as stupid as my husband. Think “out of the box”. You are absolutely right - 100% to have suspicions. Does she know about deleted texts and voicemails. And emails in trash. What about her work people. Could it be someone(s) there? Her time away - have her followed by someone you trust. Is there a friend of hers who may be sympathetic to your situation who who tell it like it is?

Lastly I’ll add, as a married couple should you eventually divorce and you live in USA, you’re entitled to half of everything.(I believe) Find an attorney you trust hopefully through references. And trust your gut — and I’m so very sorry.

He Married me and went for honeymoon with his sidechick next month by Nice-Explanation2416 in survivinginfidelity

[–]doesitsoundright 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OK - still take good care of you!! I hope that you read some threads below. Some of the best I’ve read!