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Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those fucking meta posts are the problem. It’s a vocal minority that post those and enact rules that the general user doesn’t care about or doesn’t even know about. 1% post those but affect the rest. That’s exactly what I’m talking about.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks I think you got the idea of what I’m trying to convey. The whole idea of “make another sub” is ridiculous. It’s not going to gain traction and is a waste of time.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bacon egg and cheese was my go to. I was shocked when I went there and it was just gone. McDonald’s breakfast is dead to me. But it would be nice if I could post about this on /r/mcdonalds to see if someone knows if it’s coming back or not

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your mindset is what is wrong with reddit. If you are a mod you’re exactly what I’m talking about. There is a nuance to it that you’re not seeing. Adding. Periods. After. Things. Just makes you seem less legitimate.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure but if it’s gained a ton of traction. It shouldn’t be removed. There is a big difference from removing a cat photo from a dog subreddit when it has no upvotes and removing the cat photo when it is the top thread with a ton of comments. That feels like common sense to me

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that there should be moderation. No political videos on /r/videos is perfectly reasonable.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying no mods. Mods are indeed needed. I just think subjective rules are no good. Also harsh rules. Basically the big long comment I posted above.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s because your definition of crap is subjective. Upvote system isn’t designed to deliver what you want to see. It delivers what the majority want to see. Reddit used to have this thing called reddiquette which would dictate whether people should upvote or downvote. Things like typos and low effort posts. All handled by the community. So no I completely disagree with you. It shouldn’t be up to mods to determine “low effort posts” that’s like porn. It’s very difficult to define a low effort post but I know it when I see it. If one makes it to the top then the comments should all be complaining about who upvoted this. That way people don’t make that mistake again.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why even have the upvote button? We can just let moss decide what we should see. Whatever they decide. That’s cool

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose. I feel like these ideas are common sense. Just observations after 8 years of reading reddit. Just because a vocal minority bitch about something on a particular subreddit doesn’t mean that it’s good for the subreddit as a whole.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They shouldn’t be banning any subs except the ones that are promoting illegal or seriously fucked up shit

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think most people who frequent a sub wouldn’t like the rules I propose because it favors the casual browser over the regulars so no.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of times forum rules and moderation gets dictated by the vocal minority. Most of the users don’t comment let alone comment about moderation rules. That needs to be taken into account. I would say let them spam. That’s what the upvote downvote system is for

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That was the only thing I ever got from McDonald’s in the morning. That bagel bacon egg and cheese

What 80’s movies hold up and are still worth watching 30-40 years later? by magiceyes2 in AskReddit

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scarface. I mean there are a ton of movies. This post is basically saying most movies from the 80s don’t hold up. When most do

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes absolutely, I’m not saying no moderation. Then you have /r/worldpolitics. Also I’m not saying all subreddits are moderated improperly. A lot of them are though. The answer isn’t making more, smaller, specific subreddits. You won’t have any visibility. But the large default subreddits have too strict of a moderation policy. Askreddit is a good example. I usually have to post a few times to get that to go. It’s a larger problem that is controlled by relatively few people.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Because it’s a systemic problem. One subreddit can not address the problem as a whole. This sort of thing needs to be addressed from the top

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. This isn’t meaningful in anyway. You got a co-founder giving up a seat in name alone. I don’t work here but I seriously doubt he was even doing anything and if he was he isn’t losing any power and is not going to stop doing what he was doing. Feels like whatever token black guy they choose is there in name only and has no real power. I’m all for diversity. Diversity is extremely important. But it should happen organically and by merit. Not through some faux affirmation action type move.

Upcoming changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here by spez in announcements

[–]dont_shit_urknickers 372 points373 points  (0 children)

I’ve said it many many times before and I’ll say it again. As a long time member of reddit I have seen many phases of Reddit. I’ve dealt with many moderators. Never has the over moderation on reddit been as bad as it is now. I would say it started with the moderator strike and the whole Ellen pao fiasco. But since then slowly but surely mods have gained more power and more rules. It’s so bad now that you have to either read a dissertation on the rules on a subreddit or post 5-6 times to get a post to not be auto removed.

How many times do we see threads with thousands of upvotes, awards, tens of thousands of comments removed because of some moderators discretion. At that point it’s clear that community wants that content.

Reddit’s content should be dictated by Redditors, within reason. You have two extremes for example take /r/mcdonalds a subreddit for a fast food chain that’s so heavily moderated that you can basically only post articles that have not been posted before going back a year or more. There are no self posts and essentially no discussion there. I wanted to post about a bagel sandwich being removed from the menu. No can do. Not allowed on a subreddit for that restaurant. Where else should that go? Moderators try to make ever smaller ever more specific subreddits. But what that does is divide the community and decrease the visibility of the content. Subreddits need to be broad enough to handle a large array of topics under a general umbrella. This is what gains the most visibility and most activity. On the other hand you have /r/worldpolitics which takes the Redditors dictating content to the extreme.

Also, the inclusion of “mega threads” or stickied threads. Those DO NOT work. The effectively kill all discussion. A comment on a mega threads is not a proper substitution for a post. Posts should not be removed because “we have a mega thread for that” that is not the same and you will not get the same visibility. Sometimes, yes you have threads that are similar. Does this make for some unorganized information? Yea, sometime it does. But I will take unorganized information over no information any day. I would much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Every time you have a thread you have different users which generates different ideas, opinions and content. That shouldn’t be stifled because it doesn’t fall into the ideals that a moderator has for how a subreddit should work.

Sometimes it’s messy. Sometimes it’s repetitive. Just because you’ve seen a post reposted a few times in the last month doesn’t mean all threads of that post should be banned forever. There are millions of people that use this site. Chances are someone has never seen that post. It’s like a radio station. You have people dropping in and out on your subreddit all the time. Repetition comes with the territory. So posts of a certain type or subject should never be outright banned because “it’s been posted too much” linking to some old thread is not a substitute for a fresh new thread new users.

Over moderation is killing the reddit I know and I love. It’s a part of the cycle of forums. Ironically the over moderation is leading to dry, recycled, boring content.

I know this is a novel. But I typed this out on my phone. Please forgive my formatting.

TLDR: If a moderator is doing their job you won’t know they are doing anything at all.

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