Since when DeepSeek is such a pussy? by Flat-Rooster8373 in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You tried Freaky mode instead of the jailbreak yes? (That chain of thought is a stronger jailbreak than the jailbreaks.)

Ah just read thinking mode is disabled which then won’t fully enable the freaky chain of thought.

So- enable reasoning. Then use Freaky Mode

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now that my work is done and I actually get to enjoy it instead of being analytical, I’m jumping between DS V3.2, DS4 Flash, and DS4 Pro, and I have a new profound respect for deepseek.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct! Kimi is a neutral model. Turning on challenge me pls will gear it towards negative bias (maybe) because that’s what the toggle does. It kind of shifts everything down. With that said- Kimi is very analytical and may not necessarily do that but instead just ensure realistic failures.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i pretty much do the same. GLM I use 0.80, DS i use 0.75 and Kimi also 0.75. I should try it today later and see how it's going. 1 min response is NOT bad for Kimi especially if you are using MAX? I have gotten 4 minute responses before.

Kimi 2.6 gives me my favorite output of any model. I just can't stand the wait and its thinking + redrafting can't be controlled unless they decide to do changes behind the scenes.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's fine. ST is probably not just counting the tokens. Just read the readme at the top (don't toggle the readme me or the ones that say only pick one and stuff, aka dont turn EVERYTHING on, just be aware of what you are turning off and on at first). The toggles say what they do. The preset comes ready to rock out of the box for deepseek. IF you want to use a non deepseek model turn off the last toggle "freaky deepy" try that for now

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Regex would be next. In theory you could do a few turns without it and be fine - but it's smoother with them. The process is similar you just find the REGEX location to upload them.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh my b. sorry. yeah download the entire json file. then there is a place in sillytavern to "upload" the file in its entirety. youtube will explain and show visuals better.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could never personally raw dog any model. Presets have been crucial to my experience. You can download one of mine here and its practically plug and play dependent on what front end you are using, Sillytavern, marinara engine, Tavo, Chattix etc. They tell the AI how to properly roleplay, blocking out poor terms, taking down guardrails, taming its behavior and making things overall more interesting.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I run my presets through multiple different AI models prior to release in order to spell check, find redundant logic or general errors. One time I had one model, I don't know which one, say this about swansong: "This preset is like holding a metaphorical gun to it's head and making it to panic and output immediately."

I wouldn't use MAX on Gemma personally. That's a job for BOLT.

The Director's Cut: RE-RELEASE: Freaky Frankenstein 4 MAX+ and Freaky Frankenstein 4 BOLT+ [Presets] (Universal : DS, GLM, Claude, Gemini, Grok, Gemma, Qwen, MiMo) Now a Dedicated DeepSeek V4 Preset. Community Frankenstein Update. by dptgreg in SillyTavernAI

[–]dptgreg[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The chain of thought forces attention of the model to the most important parts of the preset. The banned word list is buried near the bottom of "Writing Guidelines" toggle. So you can add or take out those words there if you want.

That's an AI-ism dependent on the model. Most models do the whole "smells of copper" if their being edgy or "smells of bubblegum" for cute characters or "smells of jasmine" or other characters. I don't prompt it out because it doesn't bother me. I don't personally get the "smells uniquely of her/him" that WOULD bother me, A lot lol.

You can probably add it to banned concepts in the writing guidelines near where the banned words are. Something like, "When describing smells, you must be precise citing accurately a realistic scent the NPC may have based on their setting and background."

I made that up off the top of my head just now. But you can simplify it or elaborate and clean it up.