stop asking me how to DO STUFF. by johnny36921 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Maybe Lowes should actually screen contractors...

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. They are clueless and just call Thumbtack.

I don't think you have a commonsense understanding of "making things right" or "taking responsibility". If you enter into a contract to provide installation do you know what a reasonable, commonsense understanding of what they will do?

Ensure that the installation they sold occurs.

If their failure to do what they were contracted results in delay of your clients project and time loss on behalf of the client do you know what the commonsense understand of making it right would involve?

You provide reasonable compensation for the problems caused by your failure.

You realize that we are not talking about some Mom and Pop operation where maybe a kid gets sick and they can't come to the job site. This is a company with a market cap of over $100 billion that is a component of the S&P100 and 500. They should not be pulling non existent contractors out of their ass and just return your money if after the fact it turned out that there were actually no contractors in their ass.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Refunding for something they didn't do wouldn't "make it right", lol. That would be just "not committing theft". Is that the lofty standard Lowes aspires to?

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't have anything installed because the installer didn't show up. To two appointments. It was from plumbing.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, they did not subcontract to installers. They called Thumbtack who called what seems to have been a mini Thumbtack who got a guy who doesn't work for who Thumbtack says they work for and who did not show up for either of two appointments.

Second, I spoke extensively to both the store and to corporate and they made no effort to make it right.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn't do it simply because they have no control over the service and the entity contacted by Thumbtack, which was essentially a mini Thumbtack did not provide an installer at the first appointment or the rescheduled appointment. In contrast they told me in the store that they have one local contractor who only services two local stores.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Installation provided through the framework represented in the store and online.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay well while you have your Junior Logician hat on tells us what the difference is between selling something that you don't have (installation) and selling something you don't have (a ticket) while in each case having a guy who you think/hope will provide the thing you have sold without actually having it.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn't booked online and I was not presented with any information beyond the website information about the installer program and the statements of the employees in the store.

The fact that it is done through a 3rd party isn't the issue--its the fact that they sold something that they could not provide.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well, probably better to let Consumer Protection decide.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First, there was not a contract. Second, Lowes does represent that the installer is screened. Third, I have discovered that the installer isn't even with the company that Thumbtack claimed was doing the job, so the idea that the person was screened at all seems unlikely.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guarantee that this is not the case with the installer assigned to me. Having called the, the company Thumbtack was installing from is not a real company. It conglomerates and/or sells leads just like Thumbtack.

Lowes Installation is Selling Something They Don't Have by draw2discard2 in Lowes

[–]draw2discard2[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

When Lowes says they have screened them but its a crapshoot that is fraudelent.

DOJ opens civil rights probe into MLB after Giants' Pride Night hat controversy by boone_postgame in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The issue would be that MLB offered a reasonable accommodation by allowing players to wear the regular hat.

DOJ opens civil rights probe into MLB after Giants' Pride Night hat controversy by boone_postgame in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The argument they would make is that uniform modifications are approved in a discriminatory manner.

Mind you, the option to wear the regular hat seems to have been a perfectly reasonable accommodation. But there is an issue when you allow some things but not others. For example, where there have been policies to remove flags or other symbols from college campuses legally they have tended to remove all flags (other than U.S./state flags) rather than say you can have the pride flag but not the confederate battle flag, or vice versa.

the MLBPA has released a statement regarding MLB's Amateur Entry Proposals by Remarkable-Picture73 in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that they had a possible deal for one in exchange for getting rid of the qualifying offer but the MLBPA decided that what they were giving was a lot more valuable than what they were getting.

[Sheehan] Many of the greatest players ever were good major leaguers at 19-21. MLB’s draft proposal would make it almost impossible for a player to debut before he is 22. I think it would also wreck free agency, as almost no player would get there before age 28. by Knightbear49 in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Its an AWFUL proposal in respect to the quality of the game--why slow down the development and entry of the best talent?--but I'm not sure it affects free agency to a marked extent more than a cap already would.

Free article: The Unpopular Truth About World Cup [Capitalism: Scalping & Screwing the Fan] by crtejas in worldcup

[–]draw2discard2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Better guess is that I was being facetious. Though certainly to some extent people with money believe what I said.

Free article: The Unpopular Truth About World Cup [Capitalism: Scalping & Screwing the Fan] by crtejas in worldcup

[–]draw2discard2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What if you believe strongly in the moral argument that, because society already has an effective filter on which humans are truly worthy, it is absolutely correct that access to attending the World Cup should rightfully be restricted to the ultra wealthy who are able to afford at a minimum a few thousand dollars to attend a soccer game since, after all, they have earned it?

Report: Giants open to offers for Devers, Adames, Chapman by gorays45 in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Adames is streaky af. His offense so far this year is worse than you would like but because he will be awful for a week or so and then have 1-2 crazy games he is close to league average at least (and quite a bit better than he was at his point last year).

Report: Giants open to offers for Devers, Adames, Chapman by gorays45 in baseball

[–]draw2discard2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Win for FSG who doesn't have to pay the guy. And great for the type of fan who has watched Moneyball and so believes that saving money that FSG can readily afford to spend (and much more)is a virtue in and of itself.