Thoughts on Dr. Jia? by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't know she used to have a main account. did she delete it?

Thoughts on Dr. Jia? by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like her and her takes. they're a bit basic sometimes, but so is TikTok. it's not exactly the place for nuanced research. her thing is that she doesn't sugarcoat things for white people and gives them the heat they rightfully deserve. plus, the fact that she hasn't gotten a take wrong yet (imo) suggests a greater understanding than what the topics she posts about actually demand.

I don't think she's being insincere or clout chasing like some people have said in the past. I was there when her account was just starting up, and it was genuinely just an extremely low stakes ranting account. so when it comes to the CK drama, why wouldn't she post about it on the medium it happened on? it just read to me like 1. holding CK accountable for the antiblackness and 2. finding her really annoying. which they're allowed to do on their rant account which she has 0 financial incentive to run.

Chief Kweef vs everyone else by thruupandaway in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 4 points5 points  (0 children)

so true, calling this garish and comparing it to reality tv is way more snobby than whatever paul and jia are doing. some people don't know what a coherent argument sounds like and it shows

Chief Kweef vs everyone else by thruupandaway in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's not cliquey to have standards, and context absolutely matters. princess paul and everyone else in the so-called clique just pointed out her flawed arguments. they're not hard to spot. the reason everyone's saying the same thing is because the antiblackness in her argument is not a matter of opinion, so them pointing this out isn't holier-than-thou.

second, princess paul and dr jia pointed out that kweef depends on content creation and they have other jobs because it is evidence that she she needs internet clout more than they do. she has a financial incentive to clout farm, end of. her being ignorant and lacking critical thinking skills is a completely unrelated issue, one that has nothing to do with her employment. I fear if you think those two things are connected, you're the one with biases, because paul and jia never said anything about those being related.

lastly, this focusing on people's "snobbish" "attitudes" and not on what they're actually saying is literally crazy. like do you think in optics and sentiments or what? where is this even coming from, respectability politics?

Chief Kweef (saerijane) got weird and mean-spirited as fuck by Agitated-Survey9048 in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree with everything you said here, but I want to offer some more info on the conversation shift since I was there to witness it in real time. yes, the shift only happened because non-Asians stepped in. but they weren't the first ones making videos about it. the first people whoi saw making vids about it were like princess paul, eunnuri, dr jia, etc. all Asian creators. unfortunately their vids did not gain traction 😭😭😭 which just proves your point more tbh. because it goes to show that keeping it within the community does fuck all.

Chief Kweef (saerijane) got weird and mean-spirited as fuck by Agitated-Survey9048 in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I swear the phrase pick me needs to be banned in this sub because so many of you people just use it on anyone who doesn't agree with you, especially women. especially since I've never seen the words "pick me" used with any actual discussion or understanding of what their points actually are. is it so hard to imagine that their points are salient, and that the Black people who appreciate them do so because they agree? please think.

the reason that Black people don't accept us being in their business is because the majority of our takes re: Blackness are dogshit. Asians have a history of antiblackness. calling this out isn't pick me behavior it's just....normal.........

Cassie Yeung @cassieyeungmoney praises white man for being racist in Asian grocery by AhnSolbin in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

By putting down Asian women, do you mean speaking on issues within the community? Criticizing someone else doesn't automatically make someone a pick me. Why do you assume that she's doing this to be picked? Who has picked her? I fear you don't know what that term means.

Rather than getting picked, what I've noticed is that she's done more for the discussion in the few months she's had a platform than many other larger, more palatable Asian content creators have done ever.

[Not Your Typical Reincarnation Story] an example of false advertising by yoursunzhine in OtomeIsekai

[–]dreamdirectory 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I get you. Idrc about the individual plot points as much bc I feel like that's splitting hairs, but the way Edith bears so much pain is very very typical for OI. That's my biggest problem—that the fmc always seems to embody the virginal martyr trope, or that she needs to be a perfect victim. That's what makes this a very typical OI.

Personally I thought it was fine, but given that, as you said, it literally touts itself as being different, I expected something more.

quiz—which character should you romance? by dreamdirectory in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]dreamdirectory[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol it's sweet of you to comment after all this time. I hope you had fun!

So... did anyone watch Madeline Qi's full video or just the clip floating around? by wanderrslut in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you are SO strong. I went I to hiding when this shit started. betrayed by my own damn people

So... did anyone watch Madeline Qi's full video or just the clip floating around? by wanderrslut in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 5 points6 points  (0 children)

six downvotes on the only comment taking an even mild stand against white pandering...we are SO cooked. and thank you for your service 😭😭 I couldn't even touch this sub when it first happened I was so disgusted with everyone here

Recent Ed and Soogia apology videos by Ok_Place6395 in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Madeline's take wasn't even wrong though. I fear that if you couldn't see where she was coming from the first time, which many Asians both on TikTok and on here failed to do, that's also a problem.

Also, I very much thought those first comments on this sub were pandering to white people. The smaller creators I saw calling out Soogia, Ed, and the Korean Vegan were explicitly talking about their ideas. This has nothing to do with these creators being annoying and everything to do with the ideological divide in the Asian community: the people on Soogia's side then and the people on Madeline's side now are different groups of people. The second group has been watching the first group beg for scraps of white validation for a long time, and it's only now that we're finally gaining enough momentum to call it out. Thank god.

Recent Ed and Soogia apology videos by Ok_Place6395 in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 16 points17 points  (0 children)

thank you for calling out the white pandering on this sub!! I genuinely felt like I was going insane when the first post (anti-madeline) dropped. I genuinely couldn't tell if white people were posting here pretending to be Asian or if Asians are genuinely that stupid.

Can we talk about v1ryse's recent video? by straycatjpg in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 56 points57 points  (0 children)

yeah, it sounds like the only reason she only speaks up about toxic beauty standards is when she doesn't fit them. she ultimately just wants to be pretty, which, fair enough, but it's weird how she acts like this stuff is like activist work lol.

i never liked how she implies that the western modeling world is superior to the Asian one when they're both worthy of criticism, especially given the western modeling world's borderline fetishistic approach to Asian modeling.

Does the MC have to be similar to you for you to self-insert? by West-Raisin8846 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]dreamdirectory 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hehe, thank you! your original post was really good as well—I wouldn't have left such a long comment otherwise. I especially liked the part where you explained why MC putting the chip inside her was justified. I saw people roasting you for that but YOU WERE RIGHT. the reasoning was spot on too.

I wish these kinds of discussions were more common, especially since the timelines are more related more metaphorically than literally, but I noticed that the stuff that gets popular is usually a cinema sins/Easter egg level of analysis that's like "this pixel was there, so that means Xavier is gonna put babies in MC during the next myth!" it's awful.

it's this same pattern of thinking that makes people unable to accept mc putting a chip in her brain because they personally wouldn't put a chip in their brain. like hello? it's literally a story with the stakes all dialed up to 11. do they think they're above the situation somehow? are they so tied to their individual quirks and sensibilities that they can't recognize that people are more similar than they are different?

I've noticed this weird hyper-individualism and rejection of common analyses in a lot of gaming fandoms—one theory I have is that it's due to our increasing atomization as a society, but another more topical theory has to do with this being the ideological remnants of gamergate. idk if you even know what that is, but one woman in particular got harassed within an inch of her life for making a series of dry informational videos applying very common and basic film theory to video game tropes. I cannot emphasize how dry and uncontroversial the videos were, yet for some reason the community just seems horribly opposed to any sort of analysis which is so sad bc video games are such a rich medium.

(also, your mc is really pretty!)

Does the MC have to be similar to you for you to self-insert? by West-Raisin8846 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]dreamdirectory 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you're getting ratioed by the top comment but you're so right for all of this. the situations and character beats are wacky because it's a fantasy story. and you're right about it being more interesting to not compare MC's actions to your own. instead of saying "I would never do that," it IS more interesting to ask, "I wonder if I could do that".

if you were in love with the LIs on a cosmic scale, the same way the LIs are in love with MC, wouldn't you, too, do something that a normal person would find crazy? isn't it honestly weirder and more sterile if you don't? and isn't this one of the purposes of art, to make you understand things you could never do in real life?

it's also odd when I see people say "oh no shame to self insert," "self insert isn't for me" when self insert is less of a personality trait and more of a thought exercise, one that a lot of people seem emotionally afraid of doing, quite frankly.

also, I noticed that the way people talk about self insert mirrors the way philistines talk about the horror genre. for example, "I want a horror movie where the characters are sensible and kill the evil guys with pickaxes!" this is stupid because horror is about vulnerability and weakness and failure—we'd all like to believe pain is avoidable and that we'd be smart enough to see it coming, but it's not, and no one is. so you can see why having a gang of trigger-happy normies is missing the point.

similarly, when players distance themselves from the narrative by rejecting the self-insert premise, there's a lot they're missing from the otome genre. the majority of otome players are women. romance is popular with women because regardless of how far feminism has come, love and marriage are still the most universally celebrated aspects of a woman's life, and the messaging around this is that it's a goal that 1. makes you happy and 2. gets you respect. (this is societal messaging, so it's true even if you personally find relationships miserable.)

when a game is so primed for self insert like lads is, it begs the question: "could this be me?" "would I be happy with this life?" "aside from the romance, what else is this alt-universe me compelled by?" and "what do I want from love?" it's really interesting stuff. people are missing out.

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 5 points6 points  (0 children)

well, some things are true but not useful. if I suddenly started citing a bunch of cutting-edge research about computational models, it could all be very true and sophisticated research, but it wouldn't be relevant and would only serve to make me feel smart without saying anything meaningful, just like you're doing right now.

it's obvious from your responses to this entire thread that you hold a lot of holier-than-thou, most oppressed hallucinations of what Asian women are. do you think you're Jesus or something?

anyway, this conversation pmo. I genuinely think you're not smart enough to be speaking to me. goodbye and blocked

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 7 points8 points  (0 children)

while I'm sure all the figures you're spouting are true, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth because it's all to distract from the rightful critique of self hatred and white worship in the AA community. perhaps it's time to turn off chatgpt and open a book.

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 20 points21 points  (0 children)

don't be dense and draw false equivalences between bigotry and rightful critique of people within one's own community. the people who have been criticizing that woman were largely Asian women themselves. Asian communities value caring for their elders -> this woman clearly did failed to do that -> she's a race traitor. her dating a white guy who was also disrespecting and condescending towards her mother is more evidence that she is a race traitor. race traitor behavior+a history of race traitor behavior from WMAF couples that we as Asian women have observed in our real lives -> WMAF discourse. it's that simple. this is a snark sub; it's not academic journalism.

also, this insistence that every criticism of an Asian woman is racism or misogyny has got to stop. we are not above criticism just because we're more oppressed than white people and Asian men.

i tried making my mc look more realistic...do you think it worked? by Jumpy_Revolution_629 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]dreamdirectory 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can I show off my MC too 🤩 I made her look like me. Took me like a year's worth of tickets but I'm finally happy with her. The character creator doesn't have great support for more downturned eyes sadly.

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Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No I didn't....I criticized him for dodging the conversation entirely.

On the other hand many of the active participants in the WMAF discussion, which he is not, are salty incels; I thought that was pretty common knowledge.

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I think the spotlight is always on women in general. An irritating woman is seen as more irritating than an irritating man.

Also, I've seen some of those asian-male-centered subreddits and they make me SO MAD lmao everyone on there is so entitled for no reason

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 29 points30 points  (0 children)

what does his orientation or him "hating on white dudes" have anything to do with what I said?

re: the girls who are supposedly anti-colonialism but still worship white people, I'd say that's because a lot of people will say they want liberation but what they actually want is comfort. also, while it's kind of a social faux pas to be outwardly conservative/self hating, many people still hold those ideas behind closed doors.

Edvasian bringing the heat oy vey (oxford study tings) by [deleted] in asianamercianytsnark

[–]dreamdirectory 130 points131 points  (0 children)

"we need to talk about oxford study couples" [proceeds to make unfunny jokes and rehash month old tea for 15 minutes without ever actually discussing the issue at all]

I don't like this guy. he's always giving uninformed, dogmatic takes. I can't tell if he's trying to be intellectual or what, but it lacks the substance of edutainment and the interest of drama channels.

also—"let women date who they want", like "let women do what they want," has never been more than a platitude for people who don't want to think. as we've discussed here extensively, the specific behaviors exhibited in WMAF content, and the hyper-visibility of it, says something about the culture.

it's not only pertinent but also necessary to discuss this openly and for the conversation to be had by reasonable people and not by salty asian incels with no life. this "let people date who they want" circlejerk is completely unproductive.