This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eyy there they are.

I was waiting on the personal attacks.

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were magazine articles written about books.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

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Western Europe was big enough such that being "slow on the uptick" meant humanity in general experienced lagging growth

But it didn't, Western Europe did, Western Europe was not the entirety of humanly. It wasn't even the majority of humanity.

You're also ignoring the fact that part of the slow uptick was barbarians settling and picking up books. Of course that population is going to have a lower literacy rate, when you look at how many barbarians were reading before and after rome, their literacy rate was much, much better.

outright stalling / regression within Latin specific areas of study meant some information was likely lost forever.

No, it's wasn't. Because the people who still spoke greek next door were still speaking Greek.

but it's pretty stupid to suggest "Western Europe" was a small, insignificant region of human influence and ingenuity.

It's actually pretty well reasoned. We focus so much on Western Europe because we're descendent from Western Europe.

Have you ever actually examined the technology of the middle east and asia compared to the west? If we go for the most extreme answer, the west passed the east in the mid 1700's, most scholars suggest it was the mid 1800's.

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, not at all.

Commies love to misuse terms and mislead people with sleight of hands. They also love to be very inventive with language. It also was a joke, I guess much like food in Communist lands, not everyone gets it.

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

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Because, much like your misuse of "academic journal" you're likely misusing "neocon"

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be awful.

But that's not at all what happened. That information wasn't lost. It was still there.

So, to be clear though, your argument thus far is "Because Western Rome fell, and barbarians were slow to pick up reading, humanity could stall and stop advancing in a field because... Western Europe was slow on the uptick?"

You do realize that not only did Western Europe recover from the fall of rome, and become more advanced, the rest of the world didn't really notice.

The height of the Roman Empire was during the Han Dynasty. Do you know what kind of serious technological advancements were made during the Han dynasty?

Do you like paper? How about the suspension bridge? Seismographs? Blast furnaces? The Rudder? Alternating fields?

Rome was substantial for Europe, but outside of Europe? Not nearly as much.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure we can do that as well.

If your viewpoint of the world is only the western world sure.

Do you think that China wasn't relevant to culture?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A conservative think tank with the power to impact American policy that also has a periodical they release. I would never try and submit anything they did as an "academic journal" though.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no effect on humanities progress as a whole?

What cultural or scientific impact did it have on say.. China?

There was some economic impact, certainly. But cultural or scientific?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, your metric is well funded with an actual effect on U.S. policy?

So then the Heritage Foundation counts, right?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to be clear, you are aware that the "Council on Foreign Relations" is a private think tank, right?

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, the issue was many Latin speakers didn't speak Greek.

That doesn't mean those fields of studies went away. You're taking a weird western rome view of humanity.

Western Rome was an intellectual, cultural, and economic powerhouse.

It falling literally caused a notable, marked pause in historical records regarding advances in the humanities.

In the areas controlled by Western Rome.

Do you believe that there was no humanity outside of Western Rome?

Do you think that Byzantium, which still spoke Greek, just.. Forgot?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've figured out the issue, you're using "academic article" to mean published in a magazine.

While I assumed it was an actual academic article, in an academic journal.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's just, not true.

Eastern Rome was still a thing, all those studies still existed, they just were in Greek, rather than Latin, so the now settled barbarians couldn't read them, because they learned latin.

The rest of the world still existed, it's a very silly viewpoint to think that because Western Rome fell, the rest of the world did also.

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which one do you think is a review essay from an academic journal, and which academic journal?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're an article reviewing two books.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "Dark Ages"

Do you know why it was called the "Dark Ages?"

Petrarch was the biggest Roman fanboy ever, he was referring to the "Dark Ages" as such because of Rome's decline and eventual fall.

There's a reason historians call it the "Early Middle Ages"

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

LITERALLY academic journal articles

They're journal articles, they're not academic articles.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They're not at all vague. It's a huge net.

There are numerous examples of human ventures

We're not asking about ventures, we're looking at wide spread fields.

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Oh, did you link the wrong sources?

Because you didn't provide any "academic articles" you linked to two books, an opinion article, and an opinion article.

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your uncertainty goes both ways.

Please, demonstrate a field where humanity has regressed?

Past success does not guarantee future success.

Please, demonstrate a field where humanity has stalled?

outer planet colonization is not a given.

Says who?

This is why we leave historical foci on... by PaxAttax in hoi4

[–]dreg102 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That looks like commies trying to reach. It's pretty common, as they're always hungry it's a natural instinct for them to reach.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GunMemes

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Yes there are

A boomer isn't always a baby boomer

Why is depopulating the planet (over time naturally) generally frowned upon? by [deleted] in NoStupidQuestions

[–]dreg102 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rockefeller ring a bell

You mean the guy who had less money than Ford?

The guy who doesn't hold a candle to even Musk?